tightlywound
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Your what results from years of big pharma lying to doctors about Suboxone. Remember what the pharmaceutical reps told us about oxycontin back in the day? Or you are an outlier of the majority. We are seeing most people with a low to moderate tolerance can easily abuse both Suboxone and pure buprenorphine and get the exact same results time after time. Doing 16 mg of bupe in the form of subutex and then nodding has nothing to do with the lack of naloxone and more to do with the fact that bupe is 30-80 times more potent then morphine.
but I can do 16mg bupe in the form of suboxone or zubsolv and feel absolutely literally nothing in the slightest. at all. I do 8-10mg every single day.
I think I must just be an outlier because I am pretty well educated pharmalogically and was always under the impression that I would either get high on bupe or I wouldn't and it had nothing to do w/ there being naloxone in there. after literally never feeling anything off suboxone and zubsolv for so long (well save a nice little "glow" I had my very first day of induction and nothing ever again past that) I never expected to feel ANYTHING off subutex the first time I did it ...but surprise surprise. the few times I've done subutex, I get high. like I said I'm on bupe/naloxone maintenance and I IV them and never in my years on it have I EVER felt a SINGLE remotely perceptible thing from it.
again I guess I'm the outlier.
I'm not trying to argue w/ y'all's experience's or invalidate them. I'm just sharing mine.