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IV Hydromorphone 8mg + IV MDMA 80mg - Experienced

crOOk

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It so happened that a buddy of mine visited me and handed over 4x16mg Hydromorphone capsules. After crushing the contained granulae, mixing them with water and filtering the solution through a 220nm filter they are almost as safe to inject as solution sold for injecction purposes, so the decision what to do with these came with ease. I had never injected heroin before, but pretty much any other drug I have gotten my hands on in the past 5 years.

Then later that day another friend came along and handed me 660mg MDMA. Obviously there was no way around using these with my misses that night. We did have the weekend to ourselves after all.

We went out for dinner that night and our stomaches were as full as they could possibly be. We went ahead and took 220mg MDMA each which didn't take as long as expected to kick in. A beautiful MDMA experience followed, cuddling, working through our issues and listening to music. Then when the effects diminished after a few hours we decided to redose. I dissolved the remaining 220mg MDMA in water, administered half of them rectally to my girlfriend and was left with 110mg solution - well and 4x16mg hydromorphone. So I drank 30mg of the remaining MDMA and micron filtered the other 80, along with 8mg hydromorphone (no tolerance whatsoever).

I went to the bathroom and injected the solution into a superficial vein on my forearm - for once I did not miss a single drop. Shortly before removing the needle I felt the rush. A prickling sensation sperad throughout my body and before I was all pins and needles another wave in the form of a warm blanket enveloped me from head to toes, the lights became a lot brighter and the MDMA lifted me an inch above ground. That's it. I thought to myself "This is what people turn to full-time prostitution over?!".

My girlfriend who had never used opiates except for Tramadol of which she only really enjoyed the SNRI effects - by far her favourite drug - wanted to try hydromorphone as well so we orally administered 8mg crushed granulae orally to her. I for my part realized that 8mg hydromorphone didn't get me quite where I wanted to be so I injected the remaining 8mg of that capsule along with 100mg Hydroxizine.

What followed were a few hours of talking complete and utter nonsense - holding a conversation was near impossible. We would constantly nod out and say random stuff that made no sense whatsoever - a phenomenom well known from our previous MDMA journeys but heavily amplified by the opiate nod. Among other things my girlfriend suggested my daughter (6 years of age) should have pictures taken of her for the Playboy magazine. Yeah - complete and utter nonsense that one would never know what corner of the mind it originated from. I usually find this extremely annoying since it always happens to us on large doses of MDMA and it has ruined the converations of entire rolls for us, but this time it caused a lot of laughs for the two of us, since some of the content of our speech was just way out there. I can't say I did not enjoy the whole thing, but it's surely nothing I desire to repeat anytime soon.

The next day we awoke and my girlfriend felt like shit. She couldn't stand up straight let alone walk, got hotflushes akin to the worst flus she's ever had to endure, felt sick as as dog and barely had the strength to lift a glass of water towards her mouth. Oh she hated it. Nothing in this world could ever make her use such a strong opiate again - that was quite obvious to both of us. I suppose I gave her the wrong idea telling her it's like Tramadol, but much closer to Heroin. Tramadol is all SNRI bliss to her.

Maybe it was the water extracted hash I smoked that prevented me from emptying my stomach contents, but I actually only puked the next day, about 15 hours after administration. What astonished me was finding undigested peppers in my vomit which should have been taken care of by my stomach acid sometime last night. Never underestimate the indigestion caused by opiate analgesics.

Now people say hydromorphone has a short half-life, but it's been 40 hours since my dose and I still can't take a shit. Since I can impossibly sleep on opiates, no matter how high the dose and how much hydroxizine I throw into the mix, I just rose from the only 5 hours of (treally crappy) sleep I could find in the past 53 hours. Needless to say, my buddy who came over for a few hours last night wasn't exactly happy to see me nod away mid sentence - again and again and again. I dropped more things to the floor than I had within the past two years within the duration of our conversation. It was not a pretty sight, especially not to someone who isn't familiar with opiates. It eventually got better the later the hour and when he left it felt like I was almost done nodding. The aforementioned 5 hours of crappy sleep followed and here I am finally coming down from the remaining hydromorphone in my system. I have actually managed to take a dump mid-post.

I've seen drugs take me to some very very ugly places that I never imagined existed, but it's still so damn hard for me to understand how people prostitute themselves over the ridiculous rush that hydromorphone supplies (yes, "ridiculous" - no offense IV opiate users). The only rushes I ever found worth mentioning in order of intensity are those of DMT, Ketamine (and some analogues), 3-Fluoro-Phenmetrazine, MDMA and cocaine. Now I will add hydromorphone to the list, but it really isn't that great. The other week we went to a rollercoaster park (Heidepark) and I rode a huge wooden rollercoaster named 'Colossos' 6 times in a row. Every hump in those tracks supplied a more intense rush than hydromorphone, MDMA or 3-Fluoro-Phenmetrazine ever could. Hearing so many legends about rushes and bellringers I began seeking them out one by one. They really aren't that great, none of them are. I have always suspected the "amazing rush" IV heroin users refer to be more a fleeting idea of an insanely good feeling that they've never had over an actual memory of such a feeling - a trick of the brain. My suspicions were confirmed this weekend.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the horrrible double-vision that accompanied me until I went to bed last night. I could not for the life of me see my budd's face when I talked to him without shutting one eye.

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Very interesting trip report, I got to say though you and your girlfriend must be really close because I've never heard of anyone rectally administering a drug to another person that's just different haha. And yeah telling her Dilaudid was similar to tramadol is so far off lol hope her hangover wasn't to bad.
 
Very interesting trip report, I got to say though you and your girlfriend must be really close because I've never heard of anyone rectally administering a drug to another person that's just different haha. And yeah telling her Dilaudid was similar to tramadol is so far off lol hope her hangover wasn't to bad.
Oh yes it was horrible. I really didn't think she'd have any issues since I've never been hungover from opiates. I should add that Tramadol is my favourite opiate, not even hydromorphone is as euphoric as tramadol is to me. I have kind of a weird enzyme situation it seems, which became apparent once more when I was under the influence of a single IV hydromorphone dose for over 40 hours.

And yes, we are indeed very close. Took as little as 2 months for the whole rectal MDMA administration though. :D That's with her only having experience with 'classical' ROA's limited to cocaine, cannabis and MDMA. Now look what I've done. But I mean well. Have managed to keep her off pot and booze for some time now due to her emerging depression (who wouldn't become depressed being with me lol).
 
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Awesome TR. Enjoyed reading it Crook. You know I don't think I've ever experienced negative effects like your GF's from Opioids. Sure, I've thrown up more times than I can remember, but I'd always be enjoying myself.
 
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Thank you. I found the whole thing really odd myself. Whenever she would come back from her nod, she'd have this really weird expression devoid of emotion on her face that I've only seen in people who were either acutely psychotic or way gone on dissociatives, but it had an extra amount of terror and confusion in it. Nothing that really worried me, but she was still not having a good time at all. Fortunately she had someone caring with her who could still cook a proper meal with one hand while the rest of his body is floating through a k hole. :D

Weirdest part is that she didn't even puke, despite not having had any antihistamines or pot, nor did she get itchy as she always does on tramadol. She will stick to that from now on whenever she needs a recreational break from work and my kid - and me I suppose. :D
 
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It's not the opiate rush people prostitute themselves for its the peace of mind they bring during the peak for the rush there is cocaine all female prostitute junkies I knew injected speedball's.

Nice report once again crook keep em coming but goddamnit please be careful I value your posts more than anyone elses it would be a shame to lose you if you ever get your hands on more of these serious opiates especially fentanyl be more careful the 30 hours constipation is a sign you are really an opiate virgin
 
Great trip report, really interesting. Sounds like you guys had some nasty hangovers. For the amount of MDMA consumed, I'm surprised you didn't have a better time. I can't even imagine the physical euphoria combining those two drugs would cause, but it seemed like that detail was absent from your report. I too enjoy tramadol, pretty fun. I had a great time mixing it with some xanax and valerian root and felt like I was on a cloud. But that's for another time. And of the times I tried hydro's they were fun too. I definitely see the addiction potential in opiates and it's a bit frightening, especially when I find myself wanting to retry the experience. So I try to stray away from them.

All in all though great report!
 
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You have no idea how good that made me feel. Thank you! <3

And yes, I will watch out. I'll stay far far away from Fentanyl. I've lost a couple of dear friends to this horribly dangerous drug. I also stay away from anyone who can hook me up with opiates on a regular basis. Most of my friends don't even use drugs.

Regarding the stimulant vs opiate rush... For most people this does seem to ring true, but having watched that HBO documentary "Black Tar Heroin" about a dozen times it seems some are different. I also noticed that browsing bluelight. For me - absolutely. I crave stimulant rushes every single day of my life.
 
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