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Bernie Sanders

MMT said:
At the risk of being accused of hijacking this Bernie Sanders thread, this will be my last attempt HERE of pointing out to you how perfectly disingenuous you really are.Either show me where I said that I was for ethnic cleansing and called for those opposing such as a traitor who should be shot in the head OR else just give it up.I know I piss you off for not goose stepping alongside you but that doesn't give you the right to make shit up in a pathetic attempt to discredit me.As a matter of fact it was YOU who introduced the term "ethnic cleansing" in a feeble attempt to prove to yourself a sense of moral superiority.Sadly,all it did was make you look even more foolish and desperate to make a point and you failed miserably.So unless you want to debate the merits of Bernie Sanders here,in this thread,I will no longer reply to your delusional assumptions of me.That said,I will be more than happy to deconstruct your ill informed fanatical world view in the proper BL forum.
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I've read your posts in this thread, as well as in other threads. It is pretty clear what kind of world you would want to live in.

There are some of these more old-fashioned nazi's who deny the holocaust ever happened. And then three sentences later they will argue why killing all jews eventually was a good thing. Your denial is a bit like that.
 
MMT said:
you would have added that the Politically Correct Social Justice Warriors ALSO march(ed) against Obama's indiscriminate maiming and killing of innocents in his continuing criminal use of drone strikes.Which they have not
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This is just incorrect. The anti-war movement is very closely related to what you call the "Social Justice Warrior Movement". Ever hear of ANSWER (Act now to stop war and end racism)? Quite a large nationwide organization who hold regular protests. My former political party was on the steering committee. Hell, there's a group that protests drone strikes at the capitol here every Friday at noon.
 
MMT said:
Otherwise you would have added that the Politically Correct Social Justice Warriors ALSO march(ed) against Obama's indiscriminate maiming and killing of innocents in his continuing criminal use of drone strikes.Which they have not, but that doesn't quite fit your narrative,does it ? Nicer.
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Now you're just grasping for anything that will help your shitty argument. Your so called PC SJW's are at the forefront of all anti-war, pro-peace movements, always. Unlike fascist sympathizers. When were you in a march against illegal/extrajudicial drone warfare/kill lists? Anyone in that march would have been your so-called (and vaguely Orwellian) PC-SJW's.

The very seething hatred you obviously have for people who are "politically correct" and fight for social justice shows just how far to the right you are. You are so obviously a fascist to anyone who can think critically. Criticizing people for being "warriors" for social justice is repugnant. Turn off the Fox News and the AM right wing talk shows and read some real shit. Your brain is being polluted (I'm sure you'd argue the same for me, but at least my brain is being "polluted" by good will to all people, a desire for peace on Earth, and the belief that if we all cooperate, we can have a country that works for everyone, from the destitute to yes, even the billionaires).

Edit: Maybe you don't understand the way the political spectrum works. The further you drift to the right, the closer you get to fascism, which is at the end of the right of the spectrum. So if you're ultra conservative, you're very close to being a fascist. And yes, I am pretty far to the left, and I openly identify as a socialist, or to use specific language, a Left Federalist Republican.
 
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What is interesting to me is that there have been humans protesting injustice for as long as there have been politics. When I look at the world it's still basically in the same chaos that we see throughout human history. Even if there is some progress things are still going rapidly towards ecological disaster etc. Personally I think human nature wins out and the percentage of at least apathy if not downright fear and hatred of others is overwhelming. Too little too late. On a personal level though I think that good will and a desire for peace is the way to go if you can manage it. Your life will be better for it even if you are dragged over the cliff with everyone else in the end.

Personally voting independant would be likely the best vote (libertarian etc). The two party system is rigged imo and Sanders is part of that system. People need to see through that to begin real change.
 
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Bardeaux said:
This is just incorrect. The anti-war movement is very closely related to what you call the "Social Justice Warrior Movement". Ever hear of ANSWER (Act now to stop war and end racism)? Quite a large nationwide organization who hold regular protests. My former political party was on the steering committee. Hell, there's a group that protests drone strikes at the capitol here every Friday at noon.
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You're trying to change the argument.My point was that the OP was quick to point out that "millions" marched against the Iraq war but because "millions" did not even criticize Obama's drone strikes,let alone march,it was more convenient to omit that fact than to either justify the silence or call his own out on it.Typical hypocrisy,a staple of both the right and the left.
 
Phil.McKeer said:
Now you're just grasping for anything that will help your shitty argument. Your so called PC SJW's are at the forefront of all anti-war, pro-peace movements, always.

Maybe so,but too often using the same violent and fascist tactics that they claim to oppose.Great stuff for winning hearts and minds.

Your brain is being polluted (I'm sure you'd argue the same for me, but at least my brain is being "polluted" by good will to all people, a desire for peace on Earth, and the belief that if we all cooperate, we can have a country that works for everyone, from the destitute to yes, even the billionaires).

Of course,each sides think their god is superior to the heathen god of the other.That's some "common ground" I can do without.


Edit: Maybe you don't understand the way the political spectrum works. The further you drift to the right, the closer you get to fascism, which is at the end of the right of the spectrum. So if you're ultra conservative, you're very close to being a fascist. And yes, I am pretty far to the left, and I openly identify as a socialist, or to use specific language, a Left Federalist Republican.
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I understand how the spectrum works just fine but thanks for the refresher.Again,I abhor the tactics,whether it's a racist cop shooting a black man in the back or another racist(read:anti-Trump) cop standing aside while allowing a group to pummel a kid wearing a red hat(which could also lead to murder).ATM,it is the SJW's that are trying to silence the opposition with "safe spaces","micro-aggression" and other assorted subtle and not so subtle forms of intimidation.It's an outright assault on free speech.
When neither side is willing to call out their own by denouncing violence and hate speech by their own, it constantly lowers the bar as to what is acceptable but both sides are too invested in their ideology to speak up and some,if not most,actually enjoy the violence and see it as defeating the other's god.If you believe in peace through violence,just come out and say it.


*sorry but I don't know how to use the multi-quote feature,Sue me,I tried.
 
MMT said:
Politically Correct Social Justice Warrior.
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It takes a special kind of deranged mentality to turn these terms (combined) into an insult.
Personally i stop reading any post or text of any sort that stoops to such linguistic and political lows.
 
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MMT said:
Actually,you cherry picked my reply.Otherwise you would have added that the Politically Correct Social Justice Warriors ALSO march(ed) against Obama's indiscriminate maiming and killing of innocents in his continuing criminal use of drone strikes.Which they have not, but that doesn't quite fit your narrative,does it ? Nicer.
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I live in the UK. I speak what I know about.

Not sure the same could be said for you....

Would you like to apologize for your fallacy now or later?

(And fwiw Ive done plenty speaking out against drone strikes controlled from fucking LINCOLNSHIRE, some 5000 miles or so from Afghanistan, against Afghans and their wedding parties. Now apologize or STFU)

*sorry but I don't know how to use the multi-quote feature,Sue me,I tried.
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Yeah, well it is real difficult in your pajamas from a trailer park I guess.
 
Holy voter suppression, Batman!

California primary last night was a joke. I don't k ow the #'s but if I had to guess, half of the people intent on voting for Mr. Sanders either magically became listed as Republican, or received "provisional ballots" or were absent from the rolls entirely.

We're taking this to the convention in July. Let's see how many law abiding citizens they're willing to club, mace, and attack w/ sonic crowd control.

The establishment has electoral fraud down to a science. That is obvious.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Would you like to apologize for your fallacy now or later?
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Don't hold your breath,MOFO. Don't you know that people living in trailer parks are some of the poorest in America ? Some Social Justice ADVOCATE you are,insulting the downtrodden, but typical of your ilk (ivory towers and all).

Allah Akbar baby,enjoy your bangers and mash while you still can. LOL.
 
Phil.McKeer said:
Holy voter suppression, Batman!

California primary last night was a joke. I don't k ow the #'s but if I had to guess, half of the people intent on voting for Mr. Sanders either magically became listed as Republican, or received "provisional ballots" or were absent from the rolls entirely.

We're taking this to the convention in July. Let's see how many law abiding citizens they're willing to club, mace, and attack w/ sonic crowd control.

The establishment has electoral fraud down to a science. That is obvious.
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The fact that trump is going to get the GOP nomination is a great way to view how the general public thinks about the establishment.
 
MMT said:
Don't hold your breath,MOFO. Don't you know that people living in trailer parks are some of the poorest in America ? Some Social Justice ADVOCATE you are,insulting the downtrodden, but typical of your ilk (ivory towers and all).

Allah Akbar baby,enjoy your bangers and mash while you still can. LOL.
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I'm not stupid enough to be holding my breath over your apology. I wouldn't die for that.

Any chance of you posting a picture of the colour of your neck then?
 
MMT said:
Ha ha. It's not red like your nose you clown. I'll bet I'm darker skinned than you.
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Skin colour seems important to you doesn't it? Can't think why? FWIW I've spent 12 of the last 18 months out of my ivory tower travelling the world sooooooooo, still wanna take that bet? Or are you still fixated on criticising me for being a 'politically correct social justice warrior' while at the same time criticising me for not being a proper 'politically correct social justice advocate'?

You're just so complex man, I could never win a debate with you. Though you can still apologise for your earlier proven fallacy if you want to look anything like a man. Go on. Might even make you feel good. Do the right thing. MOFO.
 
manboychef said:
The fact that trump is going to get the GOP nomination is a great way to view how the general public thinks about the establishment.
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It's a damn shame that he has to be the messenger though but given the utterly corrupt electoral/political system in America, he is the only viable way to voice our disgust. Hopefully,he will only serve as the catalyst for any meaningful change.
 
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