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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

breakcorefiend said:
I think the bananas are dutch from what i can gather, there are a lot of dutch sellers on dnms selling them, wouldn't make sense for them to be imported from aus, most likely the bananas are dutch imported to aus
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When the bananas first appeared on the scene the only reports of them were from Aus on pillreports and the original dn supplier was an aussie domestic supplier. You can buy the banana pill die now..a quick google will show that so i have no doubt that these are local but the dutch are now pumping them out too.
 
MiniNapalm said:
Cheers for sharing, that's really helpful. I've seen them but wasn't sure of their origin - are you 100% sure they're from the same source?

Also, any chance that you marquis tested them? I'm just interested to see if this supports the purple/quality MDMA theory.
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The original presses from the Manc crew if you check on pillreport the UFO's the turtles tested purple. Some of the ones users have reported as being better/old skool such as Dutch lions, silver bars, UPS pills, blue instagrams also tested purple.

Often other colours of the same pills with the Dutch ones don't seem to be the same stuff. If you think about it from the pressers point of view put the best MDMA in the first batch then after the follow ups when you run out of the limited supply safrole/PMK continue pressing with the standard Gycidate stuff.

I think the Manc crew follow the above business model aswell. It's all any of them can do when the supply of safrole/PMK is limited.
 
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Brenner said:
I've tested the mini coopers and disappointingly they went straight to black like the dutch stuff. Judging from the comments on here about the minis though it may not be a reliable indicator of the MDMA quality contrary to what we first thought.
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nice one Brenner. It's not disappointing to see results. That's science. Which reagent did you test with as you didn't say. Presume Marquis? (but was taught never presume).
 
Sid said:
The original presses from the Manc crew if you check on pillreport the UFO's the turtles tested purple. Some of the ones users have reported as being better/old skool such as Dutch lions, silver bars, UPS pills, blue instagrams also tested purple.

Often other colours of the same pills with the Dutch ones don't seem to be the same stuff. If you think about it from the pressers point of view put the best MDMA in the first batch then after the follow ups when you run out of the limited supply safrole/PMK continue pressing with the standard Gycidate stuff.

I think the Manc crew follow the above business model aswell. It's all any of them can do when the supply of safrole/PMK is limited.
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If you take a look at ecstacydata.org they publish all the reagent results from the US test centre visually.

Now if you go back to August 15 they used to say black / purple a lot and produce just one visual card of the reagent result, its clear on some that it looks black but also edges are dark purple.

Go forward to now they are doing 2 cards, one a big sample one a small. Now they are saying purple!! I honestly can't see any black stated over the last 3 months of their testing! It also appears that they now report a new colour dark brown!!

Whether they changed the person who visually identifies colours and writes them down or they respond to this debate to tighten up there own reporting who the hell knows. What is clear is a reduction of the sample to try to see striation of colour rather than just making a big blob.

As stated prior unfortunately colour is always down to visual interpretation and can only be anecdotal as the variance of each individual and the way they test will come into play.

FML I'm starting to lose the faith.........
 
Sid said:
The original presses from the Manc crew if you check on pillreport the UFO's the turtles tested purple. Some of the ones users have reported as being better/old skool such as Dutch lions, silver bars, UPS pills, blue instagrams also tested purple.

Often other colours of the same pills with the Dutch ones don't seem to be the same stuff. If you think about it from the pressers point of view put the best MDMA in the first batch then after the follow ups when you run out of the limited supply safrole/PMK continue pressing with the standard Gycidate stuff.

I think the Manc crew follow the above business model aswell. It's all any of them can do when the supply of safrole/PMK is limited.
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I'm glad someone had now understood what I mean about the business side, even though it isn't good for us we have to understand they are in it for £££.

If they are red, blue and white it's definitely the Manc crew, anyone remember the team GB press they did? Again in the same 3 colours, great little dids them, we had loads... Still chat we some mates about them still, they came just after the 140s I think and before the ninja turtles.
 
Itsgoneundertheboa said:
nice one Brenner. It's not disappointing to see results. That's science. Which reagent did you test with as you didn't say. Presume Marquis? (but was taught never presume).
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I used all 5 bud. Marquis, Mandelin, Mecke, Simons, Robatest.

My test kit is still in date too its worth pointing out.
 
Brenner said:
UK Pal, I don't have it in front of me at the min but I think its the one from ecstasypilltest (Australia)
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www.safetest4.co.uk

U.K. Company. Kits are good value and ideal. I find the OZ ones are variable in shipping and overkill IE too much reagent goes to waste as it goes out of shelf life plus nice packaging but your paying through the nose for glass bottles.

You can get all singing all dancing kits with 5 reagents for less than £20 of these guys and they arrive in 2 -4 days.

Eztest sealed tubes from Netherlands are OK if your out and about but let's be honest very silly money and trying to get one in a club or festival may take some explaining.
 
So the science is all well and good but what presses are people actually testing that are good?

Supremes? Red Devils?

Seen the mini coopers which sound reasonable but bit pricey given usually needed 3-4 when turtles etc
 
Devils are cheap and worth a punt only issue I did have was a shitty couple of days and no afterglow. Mate said same without asking.

Been thinking burger kings are a good bet.

Coming to the opinion if you can't find quality and your gonna blast your seratonin might as well settle for quantity and get the biggest stick of dynamite.
 
Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Devils are cheap and worth a punt only issue I did have was a shitty couple of days and no afterglow. Mate said same without asking.

Been thinking burger kings are a good bet.

Coming to the opinion if you can't find quality and your gonna blast your seratonin might as well settle for quantity and get the biggest stick of dynamite.
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Not overly fussed yet, still got handful of Dutch lions and Mercedes AMG which are ace but always like the plan ahead just in case...
 
headfuck123 said:
Which reagent test is most suited to test for PMA/PMMA in a pill that already has MDMA?
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Sorry headfuck123 appears I may be wrong on my last reply. Apparently a new kit has hit the market in the US and now there is a way to see combo pills. It's by bunk police and called the separation kit. Looks very interesting.

Not sure if it's available here. if it works well and as they suggest it will give way way more idea of pill / powder constituents.

http://bunkpolice.com/separation-test-kit/

I'll be giving it a go if I can get one.
 
Why are people throwing a wobbler when the mini coopers have come up black instead of what you all assumed and wanted it to come up (purple). Maybe face the fact that they might have had to resort to the same synth because of costs or just availability.

Brenner has tested them and you're looking at faults in the kits as opposed to the pills, not saying I'm not a bit gutted but come on, wake up and smell the coffee maybe.
 
My guy says he's got purple Teslas, and that they're really popular, compared to even Rainbow Drops. He's said the Mini Coopers are a Manchester press, so there's a good chance that they're better than the usual shit. I'll be giving both a whirl. I tried some 'PMK MDMA' again, a few days ago, and it seemed pretty lovey and empathic. I'm convinced decent stuff still exists.
 
I started taking pills in 2001 and they were mainly banging, but occasionally were quite mongy. The decent ones had people dancing all night off two, and kept you awake until the next night. Other than Turtles/UFOs/other Manchester pills, I've yet to find anything close to pre-drought pills. Me and my mates used to take them all weekend, and get into double figures, because they were that enjoyable. No one seems to care now, and I never see people looking like I first did on pills; like you're flying and so full of energy and love. It's a shame. I've actually got some MDA, which I've had for about six months, and I've now got some purple Teslas, so might have to try a little combo...
 
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