Yet Another First Cycle Question Thread

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I am going to go on cycle in about two weeks. Right now I am gathering aromasin, clomid, and nolva - but am not sure what esther of test to get. E? C? Prop?

I have experience lifting in the past, but right now I am out of shape. I lifted weights every day in prison and my muscle should have some memory but right now I have not been lifting for over a year, and I am down about 20lbs plus I have a much bigger belly.

I know, I know, you need a base. You need to have your diet, sleep, and workout regimen down for years until you hit a plateau and only then should you juice. Well, I am a jackass and am not taking that advice. I want to be in the gym as often as possible again and need some motivation. Plus, I love drugs in general - although at the moment I am clean from everything except for phenibut which should not negatively impact my cycle.

I will be eating 4k calories a day, as clean as I can, and in the gym four days a week. I just bought a membership to a great local gym filled with iron with a focus on bodybuilding.

I am a VERY hard gainer even when eating 4k+ calories a day and working out like a madman. My genetics just suck. Right now I am depressed and on parole and am just looking for something to help me get motivated to get back in the gym every day. I do NOT plan on just doing this cycle and quitting.

Right now I am 5'7". I am 165lb with between 10-15%bf.

So, my question is - which ester of test should I take? And what should I stack it with, and at what dosages? I was considering equipoise or DBol to run alongside the test. My goal is to burn off my bellyfat and bulk the rest of my body. Not looking to get ridiculously huge, and want to really minimize water weight and bloat and only put on solid, dry, and lean muscle.

Here is the kicker, my parole officer will drug test me if I look like I am on steroids. He will use the Redwood Toxicology steroid test. https://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/services/steroid_testing

Are there any steroids or PH's that will not show on this test that I can use to be on the safe side? Or any anabolics that will allow me to work faster towards my goals without making me get so big that one would automatically assume I was on steroids and test me for them in the first place? I was also thinking of adding in IGF1-lr3 into the mix...

Any advice at all, even harsh, would be appreciated. My mind is pretty much made up that I want anabolic assistance when I get back into the gym, especially since summer is coming up, I just need advice on what for someone like me the safest and best route to get there would be. Thanks.
 
I am going to go on cycle in about two weeks. Right now I am gathering aromasin, clomid, and nolva - but am not sure what esther of test to get. E? C? Prop?

I have experience lifting in the past, but right now I am out of shape. I lifted weights every day in prison and my muscle should have some memory but right now I have not been lifting for over a year, and I am down about 20lbs plus I have a much bigger belly.

I know, I know, you need a base. You need to have your diet, sleep, and workout regimen down for years until you hit a plateau and only then should you juice. Well, I am a jackass and am not taking that advice. I want to be in the gym as often as possible again and need some motivation. Plus, I love drugs in general - although at the moment I am clean from everything except for phenibut which should not negatively impact my cycle.

I will be eating 4k calories a day, as clean as I can, and in the gym four days a week. I just bought a membership to a great local gym filled with iron with a focus on bodybuilding.

I am a VERY hard gainer even when eating 4k+ calories a day and working out like a madman. My genetics just suck. Right now I am depressed and on parole and am just looking for something to help me get motivated to get back in the gym every day. I do NOT plan on just doing this cycle and quitting.

Right now I am 5'7". I am 165lb with between 10-15%bf.

So, my question is - which ester of test should I take? And what should I stack it with, and at what dosages? I was considering equipoise or DBol to run alongside the test. My goal is to burn off my bellyfat and bulk the rest of my body. Not looking to get ridiculously huge, and want to really minimize water weight and bloat and only put on solid, dry, and lean muscle.

Here is the kicker, my parole officer will drug test me if I look like I am on steroids. He will use the Redwood Toxicology steroid test. https://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/services/steroid_testing

Are there any steroids or PH's that will not show on this test that I can use to be on the safe side? Or any anabolics that will allow me to work faster towards my goals without making me get so big that one would automatically assume I was on steroids and test me for them in the first place? I was also thinking of adding in IGF1-lr3 into the mix...

Any advice at all, even harsh, would be appreciated. My mind is pretty much made up that I want anabolic assistance when I get back into the gym, especially since summer is coming up, I just need advice on what for someone like me the safest and best route to get there would be. Thanks.

Everything you have stated above doesn't appear to be in your favour... Overweight, lack of motivation, bad genetics, parole officer..!!

You will lose any gains you do make if you go back to prison, which will be immediate without time to follow correct PCT or taper off protocol, therefore you could end up in worse shape before you started whilst back in prison... Fat, looking and feeling like shit, with severely suppressed HPTA with negligible natural testosterone production.. IS THIS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT..!!

Personally I'd wait till your period of parole is over, but in the meantime start training and eating optimally, with everything in place ready for the all clear from your parole officer..
Being in a better condition physically and mentally you should get more out of your cycle when it is safe to do so...

Then start with Test-E or C (long ester) pinning 2X/week only, don't add anything else at this early stage, you don't need it, you can add other compounds on future cycles as you grow.. If you throw everything in now 1) you won't obtain optimum effects with too much too soon.. 2) you will have nothing to throw in on future cycles..!!

It is highly unlikely you will be able to obtain genuine pharma IGF-1, plus its kinda pointless on its own....

Take time to get that BF% down, and work out an optimum diet and training methodology that works for you.... Prison sucks..!!
 
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