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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

Acid4Blood said:
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meant to be very good. strong & clean.
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Cheers mate, going to give them a blast tomorrow I think, IDK why but CP to me always refers to "Child Porn", strange thing to put on the back of a pill but I guess its recognition for some pressing crew ;)
 
englandgz74 said:
Arff!!!! (as FUBAR would say) :)
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Heh, ya beat me to it :)

I know it's a spoof article, but it's true what they say about wanting pills to look like pills. I find all these fancy new presses ridiculous and far too gimmicky (as well as too appealing to children), and you're probably more likely to die from choking on the fuckers than from the PMMA many of them contain...
 
Acid4Blood said:
wasn't talkin about the mdma quality. just the pill design... the fact that the yin & the yang come seperately. Pity they're shit mdma. :/
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Ahhh!! I misread ya mate! sorry bout that :)

Hows it going anyway mate? you come across any nice goodies recently over here? not just mdma i mean droogz in general?
 
breakcorefiend said:
Ahhh!! I misread ya mate! sorry bout that :)

Hows it going anyway mate? you come across any nice goodies recently over here? not just mdma i mean droogz in general?
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all good with me man! hope likewise?! just heard about blue geltab/windowpane acid. thats a first for me!

apart from that, just fishscale & some particularly nice mdma crystal.
 
The problem is the biggest consumers of MDMA these days are people aged 18-30, these people have never experienced quality MDMA so have nothing to compare with. MDMA producers are in this game to earn as much money as they can and don't give a fuck whether some old geezers don't like what they pump out of their sausage factories, sadly.

The scene has changed just like any other special time in history. Id be very surprised if we ever see the quality we had back in the day. Be thankful you had the opportunity to be part of a movement that changed music, fashion, ideas and ideals.

If any producers are reading this, fuck you you greedy cunts
 
Think ourselves lucky that the chemists found a way to make mdma (although not great) with new precursors. The old precursors are heavily controlled/watched now.
I'd rather have what we have now than the piperazine pills of a few years back.
 
mister said:
The problem is the biggest consumers of MDMA these days are people aged 18-30, these people have never experienced quality MDMA so have nothing to compare with. MDMA producers are in this game to earn as much money as they can and don't give a fuck whether some old geezers don't like what they pump out of their sausage factories, sadly.

The scene has changed just like any other special time in history. Id be very surprised if we ever see the quality we had back in the day. Be thankful you had the opportunity to be part of a movement that changed music, fashion, ideas and ideals.


If any producers are reading this, fuck you you greedy cunts
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Vouch! I haven't done E since the very early 90s (or maybe late 80s) before the Anti-Rave Act I don't even want to think what's in the tabs or crystal now. Pass.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Heh, ya beat me to it :)

I know it's a spoof article, but it's true what they say about wanting pills to look like pills. I find all these fancy new presses ridiculous and far too gimmicky (as well as too appealing to children), and you're probably more likely to die from choking on the fuckers than from the PMMA many of them contain...
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Know exactly what you mean. Some of these presses are faintly ridiculous. Its like "well sorry the drugs inside are shit but look.....the pills are really pretty....will that not do?"

I wouldn't touch them with yours mate :)
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Heh, ya beat me to it :)

I know it's a spoof article, but it's true what they say about wanting pills to look like pills. I find all these fancy new presses ridiculous and far too gimmicky (as well as too appealing to children), and you're probably more likely to die from choking on the fuckers than from the PMMA many of them contain...
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I know what you mean but if all pills "looked like pills" then there would be a serious amount of shit pills flying about, "oh you got the mitsubishis? yeah mate so has the rest of the country, only the contain about 123 different chemicals because they have all been copied so easily".

At least with these new "gimmicky" and branded pills you know if they have been vouched for they are almost impossible to copy, or it takes some time by which the original presser has moved onto the next batch and has changed the look of it.

It was the same age group back then that was taking pills as the age group that is currently taking them, could even say the pills have become of a better quality (ie more actual MDMA, less random combos of chemicals)

If you want some big fat white pills with no stamp on either side then dont complain when you get sold aspirin ;)
 
ABPI_ said:
I know what you mean but if all pills "looked like pills" then there would be a serious amount of shit pills flying about, "oh you got the mitsubishis? yeah mate so has the rest of the country, only the contain about 123 different chemicals because they have all been copied so easily".

At least with these new "gimmicky" and branded pills you know if they have been vouched for they are almost impossible to copy, or it takes some time by which the original presser has moved onto the next batch and has changed the look of it.

It was the same age group back then that was taking pills as the age group that is currently taking them, could even say the pills have become of a better quality (ie more actual MDMA, less random combos of chemicals)

If you want some big fat white pills with no stamp on either side then dont complain when you get sold aspirin ;)
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100% agree with you, doing the fancy shapes isn't to make up for lack of quality it's so you know they are legit, I could press a round pill with a dove on it and fill it full of whatever and claim they're doves, but it would be a lot harder work for me to get an actual dove shaped pill.

As for the quality CP ones are up there with some of the best at the minute I think that I've tried, nice white crystal inside the light red supremes. Then as someone said it's very unlikely that we will ever get the quality of MD we used to get due to how hard it is to obtain safrole oil, I'm sure a lot of the chemists would rather that because their products would stand out more. However they gave to source some safrole oil and then if they do they gave to factor in the chances of it being seized and then them coming on top if a controlled delivery is done and the cost of the safrole oil, both if they lose it and as a raw material because I'm sure the price will have sky rocketed.

Then finally as I have said before but no one really took notice, don't know whether it's ignorance or just being naive and stuck in your ways but they are in business, they are in business to make money, not make sure people have a really good E!! Money puts food on the table, roof over their heads and allows them to live a lifestyle. I'm sure they'd love people to have a better time on MD etc but they have to weigh up the situation. Let's say their target is £1m and quit, they use safrole oil and run a higher risk and might take 5 years to get to £1m, they use the pmk-glycidate that they do now it might only take 2 years and a lot lower risk due to it not being monitored.

Yes I am seeing more the mongy side of pills and I'm using them less and less and would love an old skool "team gb" or ninja turtle pill but they are gone, let's just be thankful like someone said its better than the pips pills!!

Ps... I have all the coloured "all stars" and "UFOs" in my collection ;)
 
Agreed I think the problem is access to precursors , rather than lazy / rip off chemists.

That said hearing a lot of good reports about presses.

Lego blocks
Supremes (mentioned above)
Minions a few pages back.
Hopefully the AMGs & Mini coopers

Are things finally improving ?
 
Heard spongebobs are alright and redbulls, in fact I had them last weekend but I also had supremes, ying yangs and a black don perignon, followed by a load of fish scales =D so was a long messy weekend.

I think a lot could do with what mood people are in, their surroundings, environment, tolerance, what you've eaten recently and most of all what you're thinking going into it. Like if you have in your head "it's guna be another shit mongy Dutch pill" it will be or it will seem monger because you've gone in with the blinkers on, just like how I've known people been given 100% glucose powder or crushed pro plus but was told it was flake and they thought it was alright stuff :? The placebo effect. So what I'm saying is maybe some people are getting the placebo effect in the sense that they're getting a mongy experience because they're going into it believing that's what they're going to get.

Obviously that will only account slightly on the experience but it will effect it! Also don't go off what other people say and they're opinion, different strokes for different folks, like the Nintendo crew presses are good but I always preferred the MD in the q-dance crews presses but one of my mates preferred the Nintendo presses because the q-dance ones made them sick.
 
Small_town_casual said:
100% agree with you, doing the fancy shapes isn't to make up for lack of quality it's so you know they are legit, I could press a round pill with a dove on it and fill it full of whatever and claim they're doves, but it would be a lot harder work for me to get an actual dove shaped pill.

As for the quality CP ones are up there with some of the best at the minute I think that I've tried, nice white crystal inside the light red supremes. Then as someone said it's very unlikely that we will ever get the quality of MD we used to get due to how hard it is to obtain safrole oil, I'm sure a lot of the chemists would rather that because their products would stand out more. However they gave to source some safrole oil and then if they do they gave to factor in the chances of it being seized and then them coming on top if a controlled delivery is done and the cost of the safrole oil, both if they lose it and as a raw material because I'm sure the price will have sky rocketed.

Then finally as I have said before but no one really took notice, don't know whether it's ignorance or just being naive and stuck in your ways but they are in business, they are in business to make money, not make sure people have a really good E!! Money puts food on the table, roof over their heads and allows them to live a lifestyle. I'm sure they'd love people to have a better time on MD etc but they have to weigh up the situation. Let's say their target is £1m and quit, they use safrole oil and run a higher risk and might take 5 years to get to £1m, they use the pmk-glycidate that they do now it might only take 2 years and a lot lower risk due to it not being monitored.

Yes I am seeing more the mongy side of pills and I'm using them less and less and would love an old skool "team gb" or ninja turtle pill but they are gone, let's just be thankful like someone said its better than the pips pills!!

Ps... I have all the coloured "all stars" and "UFOs" in my collection ;)
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Out of curiosity, if you reagent test the UFO, what colour do you get from marquis?
 
Sprodo said:
Agreed I think the problem is access to precursors , rather than lazy / rip off chemists.

That said hearing a lot of good reports about presses.

Lego blocks
Supremes (mentioned above)
Minions a few pages back.
Hopefully the AMGs & Mini coopers

Are things finally improving ?
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I didn't think much of the yellow (minion-shaped) minions at all.. Preferred the mastercards personally!
 
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