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Feeling really sleepy when I roll. Thoughts?

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sleepyrollher

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I first started rolling in September of 2014. I've taken the same pills that my friends have (tesla, yellow bars, snapchats, etc.) and I'm the only one that feels sleepy while rolling. At first I thought it was me being floored but it's not, I've taken anywhere from 1/3 to 2 (220mg) pills at a time. Breaks between rolls range anywhere from 6 weeks - 6 months. At the time being I've decided to stay away from doing MDMA because it's not fun to be tired and want to sit while the rest of my friends are dancing and having fun. But I'd like to give it a chance in the future.

My rolling experience is interesting. I know when I'm rolling when my legs get SUPER tired, as if I just ran a few miles. Right when I sober up, it's like the flicking on a light switch and the tiredness goes away instantly and I'm able to jump around and dance again. I was wondering if this happens to anyone else and what did you do to overcome it? Is it just my body chemistry and MDMA just isn't the drug for me?
 
Give yourself time to full recover and wait at least 3 months. Try snorting it. It has a more speedy effect and may give you a better effect?
 
Try taking caffeine with your pills to give you a boost - or splitting your dose into two lots as you may simply be dosing too high and experience muscle tension etc.
 
I've taken longer breaks(3-6 months) and the result is always the same, I just feel really sluggish. I've also drank a Red Bull before rolling and that doesn't work either.
 
sleepyrollher said:
I've taken longer breaks(3-6 months) and the result is always the same, I just feel really sluggish. I've also drank a Red Bull before rolling and that doesn't work either.
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Try caffeine pills - they work very differently than drinking a redbull / coffee / monster etc. When checking a lot of the reports where people state these pills are 'speedy' and then checking the test results posted on various sites - the pills are usually a mix of caffeine and MDMA (no speed).

Do not take too many or much though as this can result in a very jittery type of high which can ruin the experience.

Your probably dosing too high.
 
Set and setting - so so so important.

You can be at a rave but in the wrong mindset and just want to go home and melt - and vice versa. What i'm saying is - I thought and felt the same as you until I was in the perfect rave environment and the urge to dance just took over and the normal tiredness I feel was replaced by the endless urge to dance.

Unfortunately the stars don't always align perfectly and it's a case of just trying to relax and be happy in the moment regardless of the environment and whether or not you're "legless" as we call it while everyone else is full of energy.

The first time I rolled I sat on a couch and lolled my head around in circles for two and a half hours. It was fucking awesome. =D
 
Same here!
I feel like all my body was empty of energy... the music is nice and feel super, but no energy in my legs. It's so strange because I remember 15 years ago that I could dance 10 hours with no problems, ok I was younger but the energy difference is not logic. My conclusion is that when I was young I used to have bits of pills every half an our and nowadays I took them in halfs and only redose twice. Probably I felt continous highs then, and now I just get floored...
 
MDMA can just give that FEEELING BEST SOLUTION IS TO GET HYPED UP AND ROLL FOR SOMETHING THAT MAKES WANNA FUCKING FEEL EXCITED BEFORE U EVEN ROLL NEVERMIND WHILE U ROLL think of it as Like before a Shroom Trip U wanna get Hyped Up for some Like Example this July and August I Am Going Swimming Smoking BLunts and joints and bongs in my mothers waist Deepish Out-Ground Swimming Pool Of Hers Been some on My Bucket List Since fIRST TRYING these Pink Heart Ecstasy Pills I am aLMOST POSITIVE CONTAINED 150MG MDMA PLUS EQUAL AMOUNT OF MDA MIXTURE OF PILLS that stopped getting made when some dumb kid took to many.... I saw someone on 4 Of thesepills and they looked DRUNK lol kid looked like the might die two pills and the bottom lip of users TREMBLED uncontrollable and people would see for example trails of the hand moving in front of the face Or When Someone Walks Past you what I hate is people are so duimb they thought the pills had cocaine and heroina nd speed and all the drugs a fucking pill coudln't ever have makes me wanna NO FORCES A FUCKING ** FACE PALM ** AND DEAR GOD FUcking hopeless fucktarded generation of kids GETTING DUMBER AND DUMBER LIKE THE MOVIE "IDIOCRACY!" WATCH IT SHIT IS SCARILY TO TRUE!
 
d-iuiu said:
Same here!
I feel like all my body was empty of energy... the music is nice and feel super, but no energy in my legs. It's so strange because I remember 15 years ago that I could dance 10 hours with no problems, ok I was younger but the energy difference is not logic. My conclusion is that when I was young I used to have bits of pills every half an our and nowadays I took them in halfs and only redose twice. Probably I felt continous highs then, and now I just get floored...
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So what do you do to cope with this drainage of energy? Just take small bits of the pill every so often? I think that's the only thing I haven't tried.
 
I would honesty give yourself a few weeks then try a completely different product. Try getting crystals. Me and my friends got a bunch of pressies once. We all did the same pressie and both times we did it, my same friend had a bad roll. I was able to find her something else at the event we were at and she was fine.
Some pressies have certain fillers in them that may not agree with everyone. I definitely suggest looking around and trying something new ?
 
Too big of a dose has that effect. Lower it. 120 is the sweet spot for me. Less is more with this drug.
 
I get this, and it is so severe that I can't enjoy the high. I get so tiered that all I do is fight the urge to sleep, and it lasts until the comedown. For me it's not dose dependent, I get equally tiered at 60 mg as I do in 130 mg.

The solution for me was caffeine pills (100mg) and 5-10 mg dextroamphetamine (taken with the MDMA). And I always eat before, so that I have energy from that as well. I seem to hit the energy level my friends are at and where I want to be. I can sit and talk if I want to, and I can dance if I want to. It's not at all pushy or speedy. I still get tiered at the come up, but not as severe (I need to sit, but I can talk to people) and it goes away as soon as I'm up. I never get a distinctive comedown, it sort of fades away. Never any trouble sleeping after.

I have tried without the dex, but it doesn't work for me unfortunately. I have tried with more dex (20 mg) and no caffeine, but that gave me baaad jaw clenching and not any higher energy than the caffeine+dex mix.
 
luxray said:
I get this, and it is so severe that I can't enjoy the high. I get so tiered that all I do is fight the urge to sleep, and it lasts until the comedown. For me it's not dose dependent, I get equally tiered at 60 mg as I do in 130 mg.

The solution for me was caffeine pills (100mg) and 5-10 mg dextroamphetamine (taken with the MDMA). And I always eat before, so that I have energy from that as well. I seem to hit the energy level my friends are at and where I want to be. I can sit and talk if I want to, and I can dance if I want to. It's not at all pushy or speedy. I still get tiered at the come up, but not as severe (I need to sit, but I can talk to people) and it goes away as soon as I'm up. I never get a distinctive comedown, it sort of fades away. Never any trouble sleeping after.

I have tried without the dex, but it doesn't work for me unfortunately. I have tried with more dex (20 mg) and no caffeine, but that gave me baaad jaw clenching and not any higher energy than the caffeine+dex mix.
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Finally someone who understands. I was starting to think I was alone about this. I'll look into Caffeine pills. Do you have a specific brand that you use? Amazon has some caffeine pills for pretty cheap.
 
sleepyrollher said:
Finally someone who understands. I was starting to think I was alone about this. I'll look into Caffeine pills. Do you have a specific brand that you use? Amazon has some caffeine pills for pretty cheap.
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Haha, I definitely feel you, most people think it's the same as being floored and give responses based on that. Low energy is actually common on pure MDMA, but it's rare that it makes someone so tiered/sleepy that the experience is ruined.

I use Boots energy plus (Glucose 130 mg, Caffeine 50 mg), but you can use whatever you want. It's a coincidence I ended up with these.

The common dosage of caffeine (with MDMA) is 100-200 mg. I usually take 100 or 150. Over 200 and it seems like it can make the roll a bit jittery, but I have never tried it my self.

If caffeine alone doesn't do it for you, I would try get som prescription amphetamine (adderall, dexedrine, ++), since it's safer and easier to dose. More then 10 mg could potentially alter the roll a bit, so I would try and see if 5-10 mg is enough (if the goal is a pure MDMA experience, and not a speedy MDMA experience).

If you buy street amp remember to test it (and the MDMA). Especially important when you are mixing two drugs, even though one of them is taken at a very small dosage.
 
Sounds like you have something like 5mapb or 6apb. That stuff leaves me floored, MDMA is kinda different, its like a light goes on and I feel happy and energized. 6apb for me is like the same if I take lower amounts, and I heard 5mapb is stronger at lower dosages and it just makes you want to lay in a cuddle puddle.
 
MDMA's effects can be very stoning and relaxing. Some people get this effect way worse than others, for me I got this when I abused the drug and it happened right as I started losing the magic.
 
luxray said:
Haha, I definitely feel you, most people think it's the same as being floored and give responses based on that. Low energy is actually common on pure MDMA, but it's rare that it makes someone so tiered/sleepy that the experience is ruined.

I use Boots energy plus (Glucose 130 mg, Caffeine 50 mg), but you can use whatever you want. It's a coincidence I ended up with these.

The common dosage of caffeine (with MDMA) is 100-200 mg. I usually take 100 or 150. Over 200 and it seems like it can make the roll a bit jittery, but I have never tried it my self.

If caffeine alone doesn't do it for you, I would try get som prescription amphetamine (adderall, dexedrine, ++), since it's safer and easier to dose. More then 10 mg could potentially alter the roll a bit, so I would try and see if 5-10 mg is enough (if the goal is a pure MDMA experience, and not a speedy MDMA experience).

If you buy street amp remember to test it (and the MDMA). Especially important when you are mixing two drugs, even though one of them is taken at a very small dosage.
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Thanks for the advice. Yeah, my pills are always tested and I'm actually in the process of getting prescribed amp (I've been diagnosed with ADHD) but I'm not sure how moral I feel about using it for recreation. I'll try the caffeine pills by itself first.

And yeah, when I describe what I'm feeling to people they tell me that I'm floored or that I'm dosing too high. They just don't get it haha. I guess I'm one of the rare cases because I can't help but want to sit or stand still. No matter how hard I try to dance.
 
If you're using 5-10 mg amp, you can hardly call it recreational. It's a standard therapeutic dose, and it won't get you high on your own. If you have no tolerance when it comes to amps you will of course feel more alert, clear headed and in a good mood. :)

I get it prescribed as well (that's why I eventually was able to find out that a little bit of amp was what I needed with MDMA), kind of interesting that you're in that process now. I'm diagnosed with ADD and sleeping disorder (very mild hypersomnia with intermittent insomnia).

MDMA knockes me out even though I'm extremely energized and awake before I drop, so it doesn't seem to be directly related to the way I feel before I drop. The problem was there before I started using therapeutic doses of amp (I have never used it for recreation), so it's not caused by amp use either.

I use up to 20 mg a day (5-10 mg each time I dose), but try to take a week or some days off before MDMA. I have never noticed any cross tolerance, but I do this so that I'm sure the amp wakes me up enough (better safe than sorry sort of, after too many ruined MDMA experiences due to tiredness).

Let me know what works for you! It's interesting knowing what solved a similar problem with another person! ^_^
 
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