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PTSD from MDMA

I see, no problem. I apologize that there are users who hide behind anonymity and throw slights/insults, but they do not represent BlueLight and it will not ever be encouraged, or tolerated if it goes too far. You can always PM me if you have any concerns.

I see, yeah I know what you mean. I've been through difficult times myself; not having anything to do with drugs per se, but I've been through pretty traumatic experiences that technically amounted to a few hours of my life at a time. This is where I see the similarity with your situation, specifically by the way it is difficult to not let those times affect the rest of your life. It is very difficult, but it can be done. :)

Yeah, I mean, I know it's different for everyone but generally S & S is a deal breaker, including with mdma. I remember rolling with people I thought I could trust and were sympathetic to what I was going through at the time, but I just had the deepest negative vibes and I was literally feeling sick, and feeling like shit that night. Compare that to rolling with my gf, where the negative vibe and atmosphere was nonexistent, and I felt great and having such a great trip. And you know, this was when I was very experienced. I couldn't imagine tripping in the beginning in that kind of situation; more than likely, I would've bad tripped too, despite the fact that I had been interested in this substance and wanting to try it since I was in hs. Like you said, this substance deserves some caution and respect, because it is powerful mentally and physically.

Anyway, I think I've read conflicting anecdotal reports, but from my experience it does intensify the roll, for sure. Especially if you were to smoke it at the peak, or as you're coming down off of it, it may bring the peak back again. The consensus is that it is best to smoke weed as you're pretty much off of it, as in when the full 6 hours have passed, so it's really up to you.

I don't think you can expect yourself to forget what happened, but you can forgive and try to detach your emotions from it. For example, just see it as a mistake on both sides and also just another obstacle or lesson to learn from, a difficult one obviously but still one nonetheless. This is just a guess too, but from what I'm reading it sounds like the mdma just overpowered the weed high for you, which is entirely possible. I mean, you could smoke more, since obviously even smoking another gram of mj isn't considered dangerous, but it tends to make the mdma trip turn psychedelic; visuals, muddiness+clearheaded-ness alternating within seconds and an even less ability to keep yourself "intact." However, if you find that the weed actually calms you down, then it's not a bad idea. If you think it's making the trip more uncomfortable, then just sit, relax with a cup of water, and just socialize with your sitter, letting the conversation flow naturally from whatever first pops into your mind.

That's about all I can say, which I'm purely using from my own subjective experience. However, I feel that it may turn out to be helpful for you. At least, I hope so. :) Remember S & S, and update the thread to let everyone know how it goes! Thanks.
 
Quit being retarded man. You do NOT have PTSD from MDMA. That term PTSD is thrown around waaayyyy too much these days on social media, with SJW types, etc. 200 MG of MDMA is a high dose but you shouldn't be experiencing long term effects from it.

You basically have some underlying mental problems that coincidentally got worse after your intense drug experience. If it wasn't this MDMA experience, it would have been something else that triggered it... maybe getting fired from a job or something.

What you need to do is just work through your emotions, talk to the therapist, whatever. Maybe you need to be on anti-depressants but that shit will turn you into a zombie so I don't recommend it. If your mind is a little unstable then doing more drugs is not going to help that much. But, I don't think it will hurt that much either unless you don't have your shit together in RL and are using drugs to 'get away' which will exacerbate the situation.

But PTSD from MDMA??? Give me a fucking break with that shit. PTSD is for people who experience extreme violence. Not for some kid that took 200 MG of MDMA. Just get that thought out of your head. It's an excuse for your weak mind and it's doing you no good.

I'm calling this out now. You have been infracted for this post. Do NOT call people retards in such a manner, and your last paragraph is extremely negative and lacking in self control. What are you here for? To troll? To cause problems? I will NOT sit back, watch this occur and do nothing. The next time will result in a ban.

if you feel the need to vent and toss around crap like this, go somewhere else. You have been warned. Do NOT test me.
 
Cannabis will definitely intensify the MDMA experience, especially hallucinations.

There are two scenarios occurring that I can think of regarding your current reaction to smoking cannabis - 1. Conditioned place aversion
2. Worsening of anxiety/derealization and such that is not related to conditioned place aversion, basically something more physiological.

What I mean by conditioned place aversion is basically an association of the weed with that night, it could either be that or it could be a worsening of anxiety type situation, and with the anxiety you "go back" to that night and relive it. Or it could be something more physiological, after all some people get depersonalization and anxiety from weed so maybe you're just more vulnerable to it in your current state.

I really recommend meditating on the breath, especially in preparation of your upcoming night of whatever you choose to indulge in. The goal is essentially to become thoughtless and just focus on the way your breathing feels. I can't recommend it enough for correcting thought patterns that have resulted from adverse drug reactions and experiences.
 
Thanks KI519, I didn't know that weed could make it trippy, that's cool. My first time I took half a yellow snap chat and smoked on the come up and the visuals were stunning I didn't consider the weed as the culprit. But I think its a good idea to wait until after because I agree with Cotcha Yakinov, I think it's conditioned place aversion and I wouldn't want to risk having a flash back. To give some more detail there: I smoked weed pretty frequently and was very comfortable with it. after that night I tried to smoke and all I felt the overwhelming anxiety of that night. It was like I was actually there. My thoughts would automatically get stuck in that mindset like I was going to die. I took a break and was focusing on battling the depression with diet and exercise. I'm in a better state but it's probably a good idea to wait on the tree and explore mindfulness further.

I really appreciate the help and support and I can't wait to post on how it goes<3:)
 
No problem. Yeah, if the mdma high is overwhelming, then it's probably best not to mix it with weed. It'll definitely increase the anxiety if you are feeling that before you smoked. But that's good, you'll be fine if you continue putting your mind to the right intentions and having your head on straight. :)

Take care and have fun!
 
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after that night I tried to smoke and all I felt the overwhelming anxiety of that night. It was like I was actually there. My thoughts would automatically get stuck in that mindset like I was going to die

quite possible any strong stimulant (particularly adderall) would also cause something like this to happen.

I just want to make sure I read this correctly, I am familiar with the experimental use of mdma to treat ptsd.

So, you're thinking about taking mdma again with the hope that it will alleviate some of the symptoms you're dealing with?
 
OP - reading the DSM-IV and quoting textbook symptoms does not qualify you to diagnose yourself. You need a psychiatric professional. Anyone reading through the DSM-IV could diagnose themselves with at least 3 mental illnesses I'm sure. Try watching the TED TALK about the Psychopath Test and you'll understand what I'm saying.

This recent surge in young women claiming PTSD after reading stuff on the internet is ridiculous and alarming, truly. This trend has really only surfaced in the last 2 years or so. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you probably use Tumblr, right?

What I'm trying to give you is some tough love here so you don't trick your mind into making you an unhappy/unstable person. If you feel you have a serious problem then go talk to a professional and not a bunch of random bluelighters who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about when it comes to mental illness.
 
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OP - reading the DSM-IV and quoting textbook symptoms does not qualify you to diagnose yourself. You need a psychiatric professional. Anyone reading through the DSM-IV could diagnose themselves with at least 3 mental illnesses I'm sure. Try watching the TED TALK about the Psychopath Test and you'll understand what I'm saying.

This recent surge in young women claiming PTSD after reading stuff on the internet is ridiculous and alarming, truly. This trend has really only surfaced in the last 2 years or so. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you probably use Tumblr, right?

What I'm trying to give you is some tough love here so you don't trick your mind into making you an unhappy/unstable person. If you feel you have a serious problem then go talk to a professional and not a bunch of random bluelighters who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about when it comes to mental illness.[/QUOTE

What they said...
 
I realize that many people think that PTSD is a diagnosis thrown around too often and I have heard more than once it should be reserved for military veterans (though the most severe cases are typically with abused children) but the thing to understand is that there's a big difference between PTSD and chronic PTSD.

Why is it so hard to believe that someone developed PTSD? Not all PTSD is super severe.

And just so we're clear the entire point of having a diagnosis is so we can test out treatments for that specific diagnosis - OP probably isn't as interested in just claiming she has PTSD and then doing nothing about it but rather she is seeking a treatment.

Also, traumatic experiences are cumulative and you will sensitize to them - we have no idea what else has happened in her life. This bad MDMA experience could be the straw that broke the camel's back for all you guys know.
 
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regardless if op has ptsd or not she had a traumatic experience and I think it would be a bad idea to take mdma at this time.

I would try walking, running, reading, yoga, natural anxiolytics, and avoid caffeine.
 
I realize that many people think that PTSD is a diagnosis thrown around too often and I have heard more than once it should be reserved for military veterans (though the most severe cases are typically with abused children) but the thing to understand is that there's a big difference between PTSD and chronic PTSD.

Why is it so hard to believe that someone developed PTSD? Not all PTSD is super severe.

And just so we're clear the entire point of having a diagnosis is so we can test out treatments for that specific diagnosis - OP probably isn't as interested in just claiming she has PTSD and then doing nothing about it but rather she is seeking a treatment.

Also, traumatic experiences are cumulative and you will sensitize to them - we have no idea what else has happened in her life. This bad MDMA experience could be the straw that broke the camel's back for all you guys know.

She should not be testing out any treatments for this self diagnosis. That's a horrible idea. She needs to see a professional if it's really a serious problem.

I mean that's like saying "Oh my tooth hurts. I think I have serious tooth decay since I read about these symptoms online. I'm going to pull out my tooth right now." instead of actually seeing a dentist about the symptom. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
I'm not talking about her "testing out" treatments herself, what I meant was that the idea behind having a diagnosis is so that when we do studies we can look at treatments specifically for that diagnosis. We already know that the treatments work, they've already been tested.

And as I said, one of the treatments that works for PTSD is exposure therapy. I agree that she should see a professional and pursue other routes of therapy besides exposure therapy involving exposure to a drug, (i.e imagining exposure therapy and CBT). However I assumed she had already thought of seeing a therapist. But concerning doing exposure therapy specifically so she can get back to her substance using ways which it seemed was one of her goals, well I think she'll have a hard time finding a psychotherapist that supports that. It might be simpler if she self administers substances in a suitable setting for that exposure therapy.

Mind you I usually don't even support the use of MDMA.
 
Dude the drug tripped off something you already have
I have PTSD and wish my symptoms were anexity Mind are waking up sweating running for my gun thinking my house is surrounded Or the flashbacks
I think PTSD gets thrown around way to much
 
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