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Blackmoon

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Here we go, I'll make this short.
Me and my friend have rolled lots of times, it's amazing. Anyway, when we roll we always have a smoke and the past few times he's beginning to go a bit weird after smoking, talking to himself, people who aren't there, talking complete nonsense. For example, he said 'you have to go swing on this little horse thing 3 times ( I dunno why he said this) and then started talking that you need to put it into 3rd and 4th gear and lots of other stuff. We were at a bench and he said he saw some strange stuff, he said he suffers from slight PTSD and I wonder if it brings this up. He only does this after he's smoked while rolling. I'm just a bit concerned as I thought that I broke him when he started doing this again haha. Thankfully he's fine the next morning and I'm just curious about this.

Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers:)
 
My guess is its a very psychedelic combination for him, we all say or act strangely when we are on mix of powerful mind altering substances. Just for a small tale I was at a festival and we were all tripping and we found it funny to keep saying things like "sir we are but simple hot dog farmers, we know not of money and leisure!" over and over... It is actually one of my better memories LOL. None of us are like that normally but ive had people who dont smoke, smoke with me and become almost incoherent or talk nonsense. Psychedelics can be kinda mind altering when used right ;)
 
I presume you test your stuff. Otherwise it's honestly pointless to hazard a guess.

So on the presumption it's quality MD and taking into account a simple biological predisposition to talking crap when mashed as already mentioned.

Other reasoning - it could be relative to the amount of MD being taken. The higher dose can result in psych experience. Doing often and If your reaching the upper limits especially with weed combo it can lead to low level psychosis. You lose the MD buzz and it becomes more ampethamine.

The important part is a simple question to your friend;

Do they remember and able to identify what they have said after comedown?

If they don't have recollection then it's likely the dose is too high and they are wasting a good experience by the fact they talk gibberish and don't remember.

If they do recall then i would careful approach the subject of whether they are content with it. If content great if not then discussion as a good friend should ensue.

If they don't remember then really you should recognise that your friend may not have as high tolerance as you and take less accordingly.

I think most people would confirm experience of talking gibberish, occasionally on lots of different drugs. It can be hilarious, it's just when it goes past the line of where the person saying it is not aware of doing it and their personality alters that brings concern.
 
^I would agree with what you were saying about being cautious if it wasnt the added weed in the mix after they were already rolling:

Anyway, when we roll we always have a smoke and the past few times he's beginning to go a bit weird after smoking, talking to himself, people who aren't there, talking complete nonsense.
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That is the part that leads me to believe it is an over indulgence of psychedelics rather then a medical issue. I have also witnessed 3 people completely "lose the plot" or suffer true psychotic breaks on LSD and i had someone black out on MDMA, who i needed to carry through the streets as he muttered incoherently to everyone who passed. This seems to be more like when your there at the end of the night and someone who has indulged in some type of psychedelic smokes and it kicks it up into a different level.

But yes it can be indicative of a much worse event this just doesnt seem to have those identifying issues to me. If i were him i would definitely avoid smoking if it creates avoidable side effects and would definitely monitor his behavior after smoking as he wont have a good recollection of what he did. It just seems more like people i know that have gotten a really psychedelic effect when combining things, I could be wrong though as i dont know him or his past.
 
Happens to me as well when I smoke hash at the end of a roll. Both me and my friend can carry on a conversation that makes no actual sense whatsoever. It only gets worse with sleep deprivation.
 
He normally can't remember, I think he's just too mashed. I've talked to him after and he's fine, he rarely smokes as much as me so it could be just the weed pushin him over the top. He was fine but he visited some WW2 battlefield tour and said he was seeing faces and such. Also the inside of the bus he was on but I pointed out the beautiful lake and trees and he snapped out. We had 2.5 gold bars that night anyway. Cheers for your input and I'll see what he's like next time we roll:)
 
And I'm also going to add that we had LSD the week earlier, and I did comment on things looking pretty psychedelic to me.
 
Blackmoon said:
He normally can't remember, I think he's just too mashed. I've talked to him after and he's fine, he rarely smokes as much as me so it could be just the weed pushin him over the top. He was fine but he visited some WW2 battlefield tour and said he was seeing faces and such. Also the inside of the bus he was on but I pointed out the beautiful lake and trees and he snapped out. We had 2.5 gold bars that night anyway. Cheers for your input and I'll see what he's like next time we roll:)
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If they were original gold bars and you did 2.5 each then yep you were indeed mashed approx (500 gram MDMA) although be careful they are a copied press and have been around for over 18 months.
 
I've been laid in bed staring at the ceiling twitching seeing explosions happen allover my walls after smoking bowls to get to sleep after rolling, its normal
 
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