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SquidInSunglasses said:
There's a distinction to be made between shorter and longer half-life SSRIs, I will put forth personal experience CTing from fluoxetine (on about a week now) as not being particularly bad, however citalopram has a much shorter half-life, and therefore will have far greater risk of worse withdrawals, and I am fully prepared to accept Sprout's claims on the matter. Short half-life SSRIs like citalopram or sertraline absolutely need to be tapered or switched to a long half-life SSRI like fluoxetine before stopping.
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It's very difficult to assign a quantitative scale given the very nature of their indication and the specific neural plasticity of the recipient.
Those with "mild/moderate" (the most awful terminology, I know, but one must differentiate severity) unipolar depression tend to experience less intense symptoms than those who inhabited a state of suicidal desperation prior - even before the neurochemical impact there is the issue of relativity.
 
Sprout said:
It's very difficult to assign a quantitative scale given the very nature of their indication and the specific neural plasticity of the recipient.
Those with "mild/moderate" (the most awful terminology, I know, but one must differentiate severity) unipolar depression tend to experience less intense symptoms than those who inhabited a state of suicidal desperation prior - even before the neurochemical impact there is the issue of relativity.
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That's a good point, and I wonder if the degree of effectiveness of a given SSRI for a particular person influences it too. All I know is a couple of headaches and possibly a bit of dizziness was a pretty cheap price to pay so far, all that said is in no way a justification for CTing any SSRI, let alone a shorter half-life one.
 
KingOfWessex said:
If it wasn't for my awesome lil family id fuck the job off! but alas i gotta keep my platoon in the style they have become accustomed to!

Have a great day Consumer :)
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I will when its actually day time ;)

Fuck this. 20mg of valium and i am closing my eyes hoping that some god ( preferably a cool one with ten arms, 3 heads and a big set of tits ) hears my plea and lets me get back to sleep.

If that doesnt work i will just come back an annoy you fuckers.
 
Ugh dont feel well at all ive stomach ache n feel like i need a poo. Had a timy bit of one earlier jusr had southern fried chicken n chils - n i feel worst. Having a lie down. Really dont feel well n was sick the other night. Dunno whats up with me.

I'm sure me feeling unwell will please my haters as good knows what else they've planned for me.

If I'm murdered or summit we'll know I never lived to tell the tale :(

I had a nightmare once inwas comvinced it was a prophetic dream but no one believed me. In the dream someone with short, dark red hair wanted to destroy me n kept playing nasty tricks. At the end I was at home (but it was here because my mans old friends whos now dead, lived here then. I was here, waiting for this person to come get me n fucking frightened.

Woke up drennched in swear with the most frightening feeling. I wouldnt let my friend leave me alone. I obsessed about that dream fir years n yyears n years. Everyone I fell out with - could it be them.

Then I let it to rest but the night of 26st July 1996 meant something. There's more to that dream I had I'm fucking sure on it. Insticts have always been right when it comes to vibes - never failed me before - someonr is seriously trying to destroy me n wont stop until they've succeeded in their mission.

Not a nice thought knowing I'm hated so much. Have I been that bad a person to deserve what's happening to me now? :(

Evey
 
You're withrawing from opiates and SSRIs at the same time, at a guess you're just starting to feel the withdrawals from both at once. The GI stuff in particular sounds like opiate WD, though I will defer to someone with firsthand experience there. Nausea is also a potential SSRI w/d effect, notably.
 
SquidInSunglasses said:
That's a good point, and I wonder if the degree of effectiveness of a given SSRI for a particular person influences it too. All I know is a couple of headaches and possibly a bit of dizziness was a pretty cheap price to pay so far, all that said is in no way a justification for CTing any SSRI, let alone a shorter half-life one.
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It's overwhelmingly difficult to actually give factual in origin, valid in nature, and observable in evidence conjecture regarding AD's, not least because we have close to zero idea about the specific "how and why" of their effectiveness. Even more so given the recent shift in consensus regarding the "serotonin imbalance" hypothesis.
They may be selective in their acute activity but cessation tears an unwelcome hole in the GABA system (ergo: seizures) on top of desensitising the downstream receptors to the SE produced at a slower than expected rate.
My Fluoxetine WD was one of the worst experiences of my life.
 
Eveleivibe said:
Ugh dont feel well at all ive stomach ache n feel like i need a poo. Had a timy bit of one earlier jusr had southern fried chicken n chils - n i feel worst. Having a lie down. Really dont feel well n was sick the other night. Dunno whats up with me.

I'm sure me feeling unwell will please my haters as good knows what else they've planned for me.

If I'm murdered or summit we'll know I never lived to tell the tale :(

I had a nightmare once inwas comvinced it was a prophetic dream but no one believed me. In the dream someone with short, dark red hair wanted to destroy me n kept playing nasty tricks. At the end I was at home (but it was here because my mans old friends whos now dead, lived here then. I was here, waiting for this person to come get me n fucking frightened.

Woke up drennched in swear with the most frightening feeling. I wouldnt let my friend leave me alone. I obsessed about that dream fir years n yyears n years. Everyone I fell out with - could it be them.

Then I let it to rest but the night of 26st July 1996 meant something. There's more to that dream I had I'm fucking sure on it. Insticts have always been right when it comes to vibes - never failed me before - someonr is seriously trying to destroy me n wont stop until they've succeeded in their mission.

Not a nice thought knowing I'm hated so much. Have I been that bad a person to deserve what's happening to me now? :(

Evey
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What consistency is the turd, will you let us know Evey? Consumer is very curious to know. And FUBAR would like a small sample if that's OK?
 
This seems to be another occasion of me doing stupid shit and getting away with it then, do as we say not as we did and taper your meds properly people.

Incidentally, did you hang onto your spare SSRIs or dump them, sprout? I'm keeping mine for the potential post-MDMA drop, although come to think of it I don't think I've seen any actual research on the worth of that. Have you guys seen anything convincing either way?
 
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Tangerine Dream said:
I was a tard to try and come of my venlafaxine CT. Now I need to actually do something to come off of them properly. It's easier just to keep taking them. That sounds lazy as fuck but I am quite sure it's not laziness but a symptom of my anxiety/depression.
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If they are of a net positive effect in your life or a neutral in that their effect is prophylactic then I see few acute "needs" for quitting. Psych meds are so incredibly subjective that continuation or cessation should be wholly personal and from an informed perspective under the advice and guidance of a respected professional. I see far too many people fall into the social chasm of "I take this daily, takings chemicals makes me weak according to society, I should be strong and stop it, I look weak" and subsequent self-perpetuating anguish.
Unless the side effects from my Valproate usage escalate rapidly or it becomes ineffective I see myself remaining on it for a loooong while.
Sure, shit's rough at first, but it keeps that Manic monster under lock and key to a sufficient degree without also blocking creative and higher order thought.
 
Sid said:
What consistency is the turd, will you let us know Evey? Consumer is very curious to know. And FUBAR would like a small sample if that's OK?
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Consumer is curious.

Furbar wants a small sample.

But Sid, Sid wants pics.
 
Well it's your luck day from the sound of it...

Just some rock hard, week old faeces compacted into the shape of a wizards hat to dislodge then you're good to go.
 
Of all the positives of no longer being dependent on Opioids, having a bowel that isn't stretched until resembling the headwear of Dumbledore is pretty sweet.
 
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