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[jmb1134]

How long after shooting up methamphetamine should I feel safe but I did not overdose

 

[fiend420]

Hi candy raver,

I saw your post from 2010 on a methamphetamine thread and your experience may help me with a question that i have that no one else seems to be able to answer.

I bought some meth online and its A+++ stuff. I want to shoot it up because i hate smoking it and dont want to waste any. I dont do meth regularly ive only ever done it a couple of times with like 6-9 month gaps in between. It's more of a novelty thing for me because it's just so intense. Last time i did it 9+ months or so ago it was my first bender (4 days), i was smoking it. I hate smoking it, its hard and time consuming and gets harder the higher u get, it taste like shit later when you cough it out and rots ur mouth, and make me feel like im chasing a high. But im pretty sure i have 0 tolerance to it now. Im pretty healthy except for when i smoke weed like a chimney on uni holidays. I'm quite tall 185cm and weigh 80kg. I can handle most drugs, like taking two caps of mdma at once, taking tabs of acid etc. I figured i'd shoot it up with more saline so that it does less damage to my veins.

So my question is how much meth should i take to get the best rush without overdosing? What is a safe amount to take given the factors mentioned above?

Your reply would be so very much appreciated and so helpful.

Regards,
Fiend420

 

[kleinerkiffer]

So my question is how much meth should i take to get the best rush without overdosing? What is a safe amount to take given the factors mentioned above?

If it's pure stuff start with something around 10-20mg,if that's not enough try 30mg the next time and titrate yourself up till you find your sweet spot.
Stay safe

 

[Znegative]

I was never in to doing gigantic shots of meth, I'd maybe backload crushed up crystals up to the 30cc mark and mix it with my black tar heroin. The thing about this drug is unless your using big veins you are are going to blow out your vascular system in no time. If you know how to hit your deep brachial that one will be able to tolerate the meth as long as you just don't overdo it and switch from side to side. I'd do the same thing with my deep femoral vein but I can't condone that on a harm reduction forum. Theres nothing as painful as missing a goofball into your femoral artery.

 

[VietDong]

Im tried of having to hide my arms. And smoking seems to satisfy me (for now) Is there any other way I can smoke ice better? like Vape it?

Thanks!

 

[89.cancerian]

I was never in to doing gigantic shots of meth, I'd maybe backload crushed up crystals up to the 30cc mark and mix it with my black tar heroin. The thing about this drug is unless your using big veins you are are going to blow out your vascular system in no time. If you know how to hit your deep brachial that one will be able to tolerate the meth as long as you just don't overdo it and switch from side to side. I'd do the same thing with my deep femoral vein but I can't condone that on a harm reduction forum. Theres nothing as painful as missing a goofball into your femoral artery.

Really?? I've always noticed just the opposite about meth IV. All the tweaks I know who've been shooting up for 15+ years - for the most part - still hit in the same places as a decade and a half ago. I've never blown or collapsed or done anything more than (a doctor would probably call it serious) nerve damage where I hit almost every time, sometimes near a dozen times every 24 hours until I crashed - at that time I would go back to that spot around every 4-5 shots, or at least that's what I recall of the time...a lot of blurred memories.. So, back to my point, out of all the Heroin users I know, they ALL have fucked their vascular system to no bitter end and now some of them HAVE to hit in their femoral! All the users I've known IV'ing both have as much damage as the H users.

Now I know meth specifically causes vascular issues, and, yes, it's best to find the largest, most easily accessed, and most sure-fire location to not miss, as vasoconstriction (is that correct term?) is quite real, and very apparent. Even more so when up for 8 days trying to hit - with at least god only knows how much still left un-metabolized in you - outside wondering why it's so god damned hot in the middle of the desert at 4AM? It was probably the meth, cause it gets very cold out there at night.

Anyways, I'm not saying it's not damaging and can't have SERIOUS/FATAL complications especially when attempting whilst uninformed. I've just rarely seen a tweak who can't hit cause they collapsed their shit: the shakes, yes (quite often actually hah); the psychosis, yes; the vasoconstriction, absolutely! That's all the tar users around here though, for sure (I should have been clear about that earlier - the Heroin users I spoke of used black tar exclusively). I wouldn't suggest anyone attempt to hit ANY DEEP VEINS unless they have no other places to do so, being as they've already blown out every usable and sensible other place on their body.

I mean unless you really want to, then do what you'll do but research it first and I'd really avoid the femoral..

Znegative, it sounds like you have experience and I'm not trying to sway you or bash your post or anything. I just think in terms of Harm Reduction advising people to burrow (for me) an inch and a half or so into your flesh to barrel a gooey paste of future abscess within you, especially due to the artery right next to it, even if you don't get an abscess and miss the artery you can block that artery with a missed shot really fast! I caused deep vein thrombosis (spelling?) in an ex of mine when I tried to hit next to an artery in her shoulder/chest area. Her arms and neck and face were so big I thought she was gonna pop! We were homeless at the time, no phone, in the middle of nowhere with a walk to the hospital at well over 10 miles. We started walking and barely got a mile before the swelling went down and she was okay but I felt so god damned bad! Which is another thing I noticed with meth, it seems to absorb real fast when I've missed, am I just really close to the vein with what was missed or is it like that for everyone?

There's a small book, almost like a pocketbook, that they used to give out at several needle exchanges out here and I have it somewhere but for the life of me can't remember where... it's called "Getting Off Right." I've never personally checked google for it but it might be out there and it's VERY informative and EXTREMELY ACCURATE INFORMATION. I was trained properly (after quite a long time of improper use) by a (ex) medical professional turned heroin addict for 9 years, had one maybe two bad veins, but overall in good shape when I knew her, other than the heavy H addiction.

 

[89.cancerian]

Im tried of having to hide my arms. And smoking seems to satisfy me (for now) Is there any other way I can smoke ice better? like Vape it?

Thanks!

I hated feeling that way too.

Honestly eating it had always been my choice during IV breaks. Or hot rails for the sheer novelty..

 

[Znegative]

no I wasn't advising it, I was just saying that IME and this could have been due to the quality of the methamphetamine or the cut they were using in oakland but many IV meth users were down to there jugular vein, and I actually think it's safer to use your femoral vein IF you know how to do so, I've only missed there or shot into the artery a handful of times (now granted that could kill you) and this was because I was being overly arrogant and shooting up in the dark ( I know very dumb, but 90% of the time I could hit with almost no light). Then again I'm 6 feet tall and 140lb now, and back then I was probably closer to 130 lb, what I'm getting at is I'm so thin I can hit my femoral vein with your standard insulin 28-29g insulin syringe, so it might be easier for me then for others.

My whole view on the matter is that it's safer if you know how to do it (because once you know how to correctly hit your femoral which, like I said IMO easier than either the jugular or the brachial) when it comes to meth it's better to use larger veins (and I'm not just talking about deep veins, if you still have your ditch or veins in your arms and hands definitely go for those, I'm talking to people who like me were down to shooting up into the bottom of their feet or the little veins on top of their toes, or the ones that ride up your ribcage that blow before you even get a register) because you have less chance of slipping out and missing, which with meth is always painful and often can cause an abscess. That being said it's not something you try to teach yourself because the results could be incredibly damaging and even fatal, and you always use a new point, and if you have the capability (which I didn't) use a micron filter, or at least use a cotton, I know a lot of tweakers who backloaded the crystals which I am guilty of but it is an incredibly stupid and harmful thing to do.

 

[Lost04]

I'm new to this website but I need some serious helpful advice my husband of 12 years & myself have done meth together for years without slamming I've been informed he's started shooting... problem is he denies I'm understanding but don't like being lied to I know this man very well & his using habits are off . Like where are you hiding the needles spoons and where do you purchase them what are common hidden spots to shoot I'm so lost in the shooting area he's slick and stays in denial someone help please

 

[Opicid]

Ivin meth is ok and I cud. Never get erect but with a different girl
For some reason got me aroused and we had the best simultaneous
Orgasms of our lives. WOW

 

[89.cancerian]

I'm new to this website but I need some serious helpful advice my husband of 12 years & myself have done meth together for years without slamming I've been informed he's started shooting... problem is he denies I'm understanding but don't like being lied to I know this man very well & his using habits are off . Like where are you hiding the needles spoons and where do you purchase them what are common hidden spots to shoot I'm so lost in the shooting area he's slick and stays in denial someone help please

You can IV anywhere you have a substantial enough vein to do the deed.. That being said I've heard a lot of people hide by hitting in hands (which i have no idea how they hide the tracks there but I've seen people do it with no readily visible marks), feet, crotch (VERY DANGEROUS AREA), chest/shoulders/armpit (more VERY DANGEROUS AREA'S) and in the thighs (as discussed in the previous posts, that's not somewhere people typically start - it's just too hard to find with no experience/a serious knowledge of vascular system. Also extremely dangerous..). Meth isn't usually skin popped or muscled due to its chemical makeup/cooking process(byproducts)/and the destructive nature of the drug (not to mention the excruciating pain associated with it entering anything other than directly into the blood stream) but, sadly, I've known people to do it.

If he has started i suggest you get the truth out of him and research research research as much as you can WITH him to help create "safe conditions" before some form of mishap. IV is an MOA that is NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART! OD is VERY REAL with this administration especially in comparison to smoking. As well as complications that result from missed shots, damaged veins (do NOT poke THROUGH the vein...soooo bad..), accidentally injecting into arteries can be a MAJOR issue ( the only time i did it was iv oxycontin into backside of forearm. I remember watching it automatically fill with frothy orange blood without having to pull back but i shot anyway and luckily all i had was a tingly hand for an hour or two. YOU CAN LOSE YOUR LIMBS LIKE THIS ON TOP OF MANY OTHER PROBLEMS - SOME FATAL), nerve damage, ( more) rapid kidney damage and lung damage (filters through lungs and heart before brain), risk of blood clots, stroke, abscesses (can become gangerous(spelling?) as well as when abscesses pop it floods the bacteria in them through the blood stream and to the brain which can kill you instantly (according to my Dr)), as well as cosmetic problems like scar tissue, bruising, "stretched" looking skin or "bumpy discolored rash" near injection sites (got a permanent rash like thing on my shoulder/upper arm from iv meth).

About the only positive aspect of IV meth, health-wise, is through a filter (a cotton - ordering micron filters is advised) it helps to clean the dope before it enters you. Street meth is still quite caustic and exceptionally bad for you no matter how pure or clean it is (can't comment on pharmaceutical grade). As far as a neutral aspect of IV meth, it's a 100% bioavailability - no waste. But that requires good knowledge of your body and your needs for dosage to utilize to its fullest.

My #1 advice would be to convince him to be honest if he's not already, and to not start doing it this way yourself. The needle is an addiction all in itself and I've found it's a much worse addiction to deal with than the drug. If you do start, maintain your body as best you can as it's really easy to go "overboard" like hitting more than you need to in a given amount of time. Also the stigma behind it could have even your dope fiend friends looking at you funny.

Just be careful and i hope for the best for both you and your husband. Chances are if he's doing it anywhere other than his arms he's been doing it a while, or whoever "trained" him began there. It's highly unusual for people with easily accessible locations in their arms to go anywhere else, especially considering the explosive pain that comes with missing this drug..

 

[MiniCats]

I started meth abt 3 months ago. I usually eat it or snort it. I have tried to smoke it but could see good enough to do it right. The first few times were fun. I had energy and motor mouth. If I had it I would eat a little every day. Then no more 2 weeks. Now have more still doing the same. Big deal, nothing, is this tolerance? If so how much should I go up on the amount. If I had any sense I would quit. Ps. I never had the euphoria. Thx

 

[Feelium007]

I started meth abt 3 months ago. I usually eat it or snort it. I have tried to smoke it but could see good enough to do it right. The first few times were fun. I had energy and motor mouth. If I had it I would eat a little every day. Then no more 2 weeks. Now have more still doing the same. Big deal, nothing, is this tolerance? If so how much should I go up on the amount. If I had any sense I would quit. Ps. I never had the euphoria. Thx

I never got any sort of euphoria from eating it or drinking it. With smoking it, it would sort a creep up on me and it was never really a rush but just sort of a warm sense of well-being . I also get so paranoid about burning it up, wasting it, or wasting it, or spilling it that I have trouble relaxing and enjoying it. Hot railing it gives you the combination of snorting and smoking it. That's pretty awesome. But hard to do in a pinch and on the go.

 

[SterlingM.Archer]

Feelium007 you gotta get enough to make the first one count and the second one slightly better.

I'm in a weird place atm and not sure if I should blast off for another 4 hrs. And then crash out from thr bars and weed or take a power nap now?

 

[SemperSpeed]

Just switched from smoking to snorting. Waaaaay less moreish. Only time ill smoke is right before a good porn marathon or in the hotel bathroom before i get that backpage bj

 

[Ignio]

Meth-amphetamine is close to non-existing in Denmark. And the quality of amphetamines suck - in the last 10 years the average purity of seized amphetamine have been 5%.

I have never really understood the meth crisis you have in the state with all the cocaine flowing in from Mexico. You should think that cocaine would be more pure and cheaper in the US so close to the source compare to the distance cocaine has to travel to reach Denmark. And when it have been so popular and profiting product for drug-kingpins I do not understand why they haven't introduced it the to European market.

As I have never tried meth, I would like some descriptions about its effects. I am thinking about trying to smoke it instead of crack cocaine. But from what I can understand, it is far more addictive than even crack. What is the reason for this? Is the euphoria so much better than crack? Is the high lasting longer? Is the long-term negative impacts of smoking meth smaller than for crack?

From what I can gather of information, meth is actually more expensive than crack in Europe when you compare one gram to one gram and also in larger quantities. Do you require less meth than crack to get high as the price is higher? I mean if 1 gram of meth could last an addict a day and 1 gram of crack only half a day I could understand the price difference. But it might just be in Europe that meth is more expensive? Is meth cheaper than crack in the US?

 

[Burnt Offerings]

^ where I'm from, the amount of money you'd need to spend in order to stay high on methamphetamine for 2-3 days straight (with little to no tolerance, of course...) costs about as much as dinner for two at a medium-priced restaurant

I've never smoked crack (which is almost non-existent where I live), but from what I understand, that same amount of money spent on crack would keep you high for...an hour or two maybe? lol.

Meth is stronger and less expensive than crack. If you are new to methamphetamine and just snort 1 small line of some good shard, you will EASILY be high as a kite hours later...which is definitely not the case with cocaine.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

My friends and I used to tease people who would use a drug and then say, "I got too high". "Wait a second, 'too high'? What does that even mean? That combination of words doesn't even make sense to me!"

But if any drug has the potential to get you "too high", it has to be meth. Meth is so awesome that I can't do it anymore...fucking meth, it beat me at my own game!

 

[Ignio]

Bo meth being stronger and worker longer can account for the high price in Europe. But how can meth be so expensive in Europe while it costs nothing in USA while the prices for cocaine is quite similar?

 

[MoodAltar]

Here on Canada's west coast, meth - good crystal, not powder - is WAY cheaper, and better quality than any cocaine available here <snip>for a point (0.1 gram). Enough for rec users / novices to party all night (snorting), might need two points if smoking. Whereas a 40 bag of cocaine would last me maybe an hour. But, like I said coke quality is awful here gen speaking. Probably b/c coke must be smuggled, while meth is probably being cooked right now just down the street from me, lol. Also (personal theory) cocaine is the DOC of the Rich & Famous (or was traditionally anyway), so maybe thas inflated price / kept quality down. Also, 1/10 gram of coke ain't gonna get ur cat high, but a point of meth, or down - BAM! Strange tho that no-one seems to Cooking in Copenhagen