Aus - DEADLY PROBLEM: ‘It’s cheaper to get high than get drunk’

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Why deaths won’t stop the party: Drug test kits gain popularity as festival overdoses soar

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SYLVIA Choi was just 25 when she overdosed on pills at Stereosonic festival in Sydney last November. Stefan Woodward, 19, died in exactly the same way a week later.

Yet as hospital admissions for ecstasy and MDMA use soar in Australia, the chilling stories are failing to stop young people risking their lives.

“People are like ‘it’s so dangerous, you don’t know what you’re taking’, and well actually, we’re taking it anyway,” one user tells Four Corners in tonight’s report.

“If the government thinks that people are going to stop taking drugs, they’re kidding themselves,” adds another.

Australia now has the world’s highest number of ecstasy and MDMA users per capita, and the number of emergency admissions for so-called “party drugs” to NSW hospitals has doubled in five years.

Drug policy experts say it’s time to follow in the steps of the Netherlands and introduce free drug testing facilities, so festival-goers can see exactly what they are consuming.

The owner of Australian drug testing business EZ Test, Steven Bourke, told news.com.au that pharmacist Sylvia could still be alive if she had used one of the company’s kits, after she reportedly died from a super-strength dose of MDMA, the pure chemical component of ecstasy.

“If she had used one of the MDMA purity kits, she may still be with us,” Mr Bourke said. “It may have told her what was in it and she could have worked out that she had a very high dose of MDMA on her, and only taken half of what she did.”

A PILL CHEAPER THAN GETTING DRUNK

Four Corners reporter Caro Meldrum-Hanna said pills were now more appealing to young people than ever because they were so cheap and readily available. An ecstasy pill might cost $20 and keep the user high for four hours.

“A pill is cheaper than three schooners at the pub,” she told news.com.au after visiting Victoria’s forensic drug-testing lab.

“For uni students, it’s cheaper to get high than get drunk. The strength of ecstasy has gone through the roof. It was 5 or 10 per cent purity, now it’s up to 60 per cent, super-strength MDMA.

“There’s a common theme — ‘I trust my source, nothing’s gone wrong before’. These kids have blind faith in swallowing pills en masse.

“A few deaths don’t deter experimentation, and if you’re going to experiment, you need to be sure you don’t die.”

One party drug user told Four Corners: “It’s cheaper than alcohol. One pill’s 20 bucks and it’ll last you four hours.”

Not only is the dosage higher, young people are mixing ecstasy with a lethal cocktail of drugs such as ketamine, cannabis, LSD, mushrooms, GBH, speed, prescription drugs and alcohol.

‘I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT’

But frighteningly, some Aussie festival-goers are willing to take whatever they’ve got, even when they learn it isn’t the substance they thought they had bought.

Pop culture website Vicevisited an Australian music festival armed with EZ Tests and helped festival-goers test their drugs.

According to reporter Dan Roxanne, one man thought he had bought a gram of ketamine for $200, but it was actually Ritalin, a drug commonly used to treat ADHD.

When asked whether he would still take the drugs, the man replied: “Yes … because they’re fun.”

Mr Roxanne encountered several people who thought they had bought ecstasy pills, only to find out they were actually made from speed.

“The most concerning event of the day was getting a result that didn’t match anything in the [colour coded] manual. It was supposedly MDMA but after mixing a sample it went sort of orange but with a black tinge,” he wrote.

According to EZ Test’s colour chart, black indicates a presence of DXM or Dextromethorphan, a hallucinogen usually used in cough medication as a cough suppressant, which can also shut down your respiratory system.

The man who donated the drug to be tested “didn’t seem surprised” his sample had this result.

“The guy I bought it from is a douchebag and shady as hell,” he said. “I was going to take it without any thought, but now this has got me a little scared.”'

WILL DRUG TESTING SOLVE THE PROBLEM?

Drug testing isn’t perfect. Not only will some people take what they have anyway, some might be allergic to a substance in the drug and not know it.

But senior figures including former Australian Federal Police commissioner Mick Palmer say they would support pill testing to reduce the danger for young people who choose to take ecstasy.

“I have no problem with it at all, I think it makes absolute sense to try to test the quality of the drugs that people are taking,” Mr Palmer said.

Most experts agree the government’s “war on drugs” isn’t working.

Emergency physician and drug expert David Caldicott told 7.30: “(The saying) ‘don’t use drugs’ is perfectly acceptable for primary school kids and the people who aren’t already using drugs.

“But for this group of people, they’ve already decided to use drugs and we need to be far more nuanced in our approach to illicit drugs than we currently are.”

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http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...r/news-story/a25d6eaf98c2781c327de51bf55aa534
 
I knew someone from the UK who was telling me it was cheaper to buy an E then it was to buy a pint of beer / Schooner. Makes you wonder :( I know clubs make at least $2 profit for each schooner but then part of that goes towards booze tax etc...

Any how you're on the ball today polediver. Always posting an article ahead of me lol.
 
Looking forward to tonight's episode of Four Corners.

It has long been the source of the best investigative journalism in Australia by far.
 
Labor MP Jo Haylen wants sniffer dogs retired from music festivals, and pills tested for ‘safety’

LABOR’S rookie inner west MP has called for sniffer dogs to be banned and illegal party drugs to actually be tested at music festivals to ensure they were safe for young people to take.

“Kids smoking pot or taking pills at music festivals won’t go away,” Summer Hill MP Jo Haylen said in her speech to colleagues at Labor’s state conference.

“Rather than ruining lives with a criminal record or, worse still, leaving people to take risks on their own, let’s be brave.

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“Let’s introduce amnesty bins and pill testing at festivals so we’re not putting people at risk.

“Let’s retire sniffer dogs so we’re not unnecessarily targeting vulnerable people on our streets.

“Let’s decriminalise the possession and use of drugs and get the debate back on track — let’s get drug users out of cop cars and into the health system.”

Ms Haylen gave the speech late on Saturday, hijacking a health committee debate which colleagues felt should have been focused on the gap in health funding Premier Mike Baird wants funded through an increase in the GST.

Ms Haylen said it was time to “put Labor at the vanguard again”, just as when former Premier Bob Carr introduced a medically supervised injecting room at Kings Cross.

She also criticised the Baird government’s increase in roadside drug testing.

“Labor understands that you don’t fix a flood with a hammer,” Ms Haylen said.

“The Baird government’s heavy handed approach doesn’t fix the problem. “Sniffer dogs are ineffective — they’re wrong three quarters of the time, causing unnecessary interactions between police and young people. “Likewise the intensified pressure of police at music festivals and events doesn’t stop young people taking drugs — it just encourages them to take all their drugs to avoid arrest.

“Roadside drug testing hurls people into the legal system for having the most minute traces of drugs in their system, but operates without a shred of evidence to prove it reduces the number of accidents.”

Ms Haylen said in her speech Premier Mike Baird and his deputy Troy Grant should “stop targeting kids, and poor people, LBTIQ people and the vulnerable.

“They (should) use their resources to target drug dealers and manufacturers to stop the flow of illicit drugs on our streets.”

The motion put by Ms Haylen, a member of the Left, to review the sniffer dog drug detection program, introduce pill testing at festivals and hold a parliamentary inquiry into drugs was defeated by the Right at conference and was not permitted to go to a vote.

Ms Haylen said yesterday that she did not intend to take her proposals to caucus, they were her personal views and reflected the views of her electorate.

Labor’s health spokesman Walt Secord said: “Her speech diverged sharply from ALP policy.

“I would have preferred to have debated the more than $20.1 billion in health cuts by the Turnbull and Baird governments.”


Source: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...y/news-story/b85763fd852f04f7169a3ee5beedd5a6
 
Here's an MP making sense for a change. No doubt she dressed up in candy in her time and PLURRED to the late morning while munching on white doves etc....

Good on her, putting back into the community :)
 
Yes I agree with her for sure. Sniffer dogs at festivals and large raves do more harm than good. Possibly have a few under covers hitting up bigger dealers but as for end users on smaller amounts of drugs, who the fuck cares, what's the use of trying to stop or bust them.
 
DYING TO DANCE

Monday 15 February 2016

"We're in the 21st Century. If the Government thinks that people are going to stop taking drugs, they're kidding themselves." Drug User

In this provocative Four Corners story, Gold Walkley award-winning reporter Caro Meldrum-Hanna goes inside Australia's dance party drug scene.

"It's cheaper than alcohol. One pill's 20 bucks and it'll last you four hours." Drug User

They could be your friends, your workmates, your children.

"People are like 'it's so dangerous you don't know what you're taking', and well actually, we're taking it anyway." Drug User

They're the voices of young Australians, speaking candidly about taking so-called "party drugs" and they're more common than you would guess. Australians are the highest users of ecstasy and its main chemical component MDMA, per capita, in the world.

And despite the feel good nickname, "party drugs" can kill. Seven young Australians have died in the space of a year, hospital admissions are on the rise and concerns are growing about the increasing purity of the drugs. But this isn't deterring them.

"Like sometimes you have a car crash but you still drive your car." Drug User

With billions spent on enforcing anti-drug laws, some of Australia's most eminent medical, legal and policing minds are speaking out and saying the "war on drugs" is failing.

"This law enforcement effort is not only not effective but is actually harmful. The focus on drug law enforcement has been an expensive way of achieving failure." Drug Law Reform Expert

"We should be doing everything we can to ensure that if kids do experiment in this way when they're young, they're going to survive the experience." Former Senior Police Officer

DYING TO DANCE, reported by Caro Meldrum-Hanna and presented by Sarah Ferguson, goes to air on Monday 15th February at 8.30pm EDT.

It is replayed on Tuesday 16th at 10.00am and Wednesday 17th at 11pm. It can also be seen on ABC News 24 on Saturday at 8.00pm, ABC iview and at abc.net.au/4corners.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/02/15/4404734.htm
 
I completely agree with this. It's impossible to stop people taking E, having searches and sniffer dogs is just going to make these young kids drop whatever they have PRIOR to getting to the gate. Open up a test facility and remove the searching and people are going to not drop high doses in fear of being caught. They can pace themselves over a night, and get their pills checked first. Definately the right way to tackle it. If you can't remove the substance as a whole (which won't happen), at least remove as much risk associated with it.
 
Funniest part was "we can't show you in the video but right next to us was a lady so drug affected she loses control of her bowel'

Hehe, I thought the most amusing part was when the police minister Troy Grant was caught out blatantly lying about pill testing and the 'research he's done on it'.. Total fail.... No wonder NSW is such a police nanny state with a person like him in power (along with a handful of other idiots). His ideas and views are so old and out dated and it's all been such an expensive failure.

More and more people are finally speaking up about how unjust it is to target end users of drugs and not allow pill testing, and using such agro policing and sniffer dogs all over Sydney and NSW.

1) Allow pill testing at events.

2) Stop over the top policing at events and take away sniffer dogs.

3) Legalise MDMA pills, sell them at chemists for 20 buck a pop for pure and set doses with info and tips on the packaging.

4) Allow pills testing kits to be sold anywhere.

5) Don't arrest end users of drugs. Make drug use decriminalised. Only go after the Mr Bigs, like the importers and producers.

6) Share any info on the drugs they are taking from people in busts. Advise of known harmful batches IE PMA pills or nBome or 2cb or whatever.

But they wont do any of this because their budgets and man power (and toys) will be decreased and many of them would be out of jobs.
 
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Unfortunately, whilst we have old white men in charge of policy and governments that take donations (bribes) from corporations, plus an out of touch population that believes all drugs are evil, Australia's attitude towards drug use will not change.

Votes are more important than lives it seems
 
omg plz do not be messing with that stuff! it is so easy to overdose! if you must take an E pill, do not take the whole pill! take like 1/3 of the pill. and plz don't be mixing that with other stuff. if you are with friends, i guarantee that nobody is going to be calling 911 and then you gonna die!
 
^Are you joking? If not, what in the fuck are you taking about? Did you not realize this whole discussion is about test kits and regulated drugs? It's people like you who leave their friends to die apparently...

But they wont do any of this because their budgets and man power (and toys) will be decreased and many of them would be out of jobs.

That's a real factor to consider. De-industrialization and exports of jobs have led to increasing rates of death for middle-aged non-college-educated white men in the United States. Shocking increases in liver disease (alcoholism), drug overdoses, and suicide. Over the same period black and hispanic death rates declined.

Maybe that's not a bad thing either since most of these people vote against progressive measures for anything and have helped destroy the country themselves, but we have to consider it because even a rat will fight for it's life.
 
omg plz do not be messing with that stuff! it is so easy to overdose! if you must take an E pill, do not take the whole pill! take like 1/3 of the pill. and plz don't be mixing that with other stuff. if you are with friends, i guarantee that nobody is going to be calling 911 and then you gonna die!

Fuck off obvious troll
 
Unfortunately, whilst we have old white men in charge of policy and governments that take donations (bribes) from corporations, plus an out of touch population that believes all drugs are evil, Australia's attitude towards drug use will not change.

Votes are more important than lives it seems
^ this right here
 
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