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Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

Yes with Canada they do have the worst reportings on PILLS. However Crystal (Molly) that is a huge different story. Canada is well known to have the one of the best mdma coming from there. Pills absouletly not like you said.


Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Someone did the research already or at least using all data on pillreports. Actually Canada seems to be the worst place on the planet http://www.projectknow.com/discover/jagged-little-pill/

Although data is slightly flawed as no one has yet analysed % Dutch imports / fake imports all areas.

That would be very interesting to take % of homegrown Aus, UK, US etc. take out all known imports / copies (copies are false data points) then running the sums on those identified as home grown. It would point to % of MD produced locally and quality. Alas Canada will come out bottom any way you look at it.
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Yeah I agree with that it is the best data available, I can see why you would try and use it. However it's not really solid grounds to start with is it?

Pretty far from it IMO. The reason for that is I strongly disagree that the majority of people are more likely to report a good experience than a bad one. They're more likely to even google search if something seems wrong IMO, and when you take ecstasydata into account I'm 100% saying I think more people send a bad pill in for analysis than a good one. How much of the demographic did they make up?

Sorry but I just don't see that data is going to give any credible indicator who is currently exporting and supplying how much? In terms of a general trend since 2007 as in an averaged out picture it does yes, but with production manufacture and distribution there are going to be peaks. In terms of trying to figure out who is currently producing how much of their own MDMA and pills it's of no use. To do that you would need samples from the past year or two max and then need to work out how many were Dutch how many local etc, and it still wouldn't account for crystal MDMA... In Canada and the U.S. "Molly" is a bigger deal than pills as jtrance says.
 
I have no doubt there is plenty of dutch mdma and pills in Australia. I was simply stating that safrole based mdma exists and is being made in Australia. I also know that the MDMA that moves in my circles is made here and is safrole based. I also explained where the safrole oil came from. I am not going to say anything more on an internet forum as quite frankly there is nothing to gain and everything to lose.
 
Going to drop a couple of original orange Q-dance from 2010 at the weekend(stashed them away for a special occasion ) Will report back on how they differ from today's pills.
Certain that these are saffrol derived and not PMK-Glycidate like pills now.
 
Wow nice find. I personally thought they were golden. One of the last decent pills I remember until the Manc crew appeared with those ninja turtles and UFO's.
 
pothole said:
Going to drop a couple of original orange Q-dance from 2010 at the weekend(stashed them away for a special occasion ) Will report back on how they differ from today's pills.
Certain that these are saffrol derived and not PMK-Glycidate like pills now.
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Do you have a marquis reagent? Would be very interesting to see that result too! Maybe even take a tiny slither off and save until you do?
 
^ Dark purple > black. Be interesting if pothole can test a bit of one and post a picture of the results but that's what I remember.
 
Thanks Sid and to everyone else the regarding the orange square domino/dice (6 dots on one side and 1 on the other). Sorry for very late update I recklessly did a 1/4 and I felt very odd..unsafe, unsure of myself...the friend that had them that night continues to say that in a club enviroment etc he felt they were pretty good! However he was not right that night and yes he had had a plethora of other substances but even so.He is not inexperienced but I find his idea of a "good" pill highly weird

I wil say at this point they are floating around north London and if someone can test them before my newkit comes I would be grateful for the results and in the name of HR I personally would say avoid untill more conclusive tests.

So yep avoid or please people for now be careful and test test test... love to all be safe..
 
Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Do you have a marquis reagent? Would be very interesting to see that result too! Maybe even take a tiny slither off and save until you do?
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Yes I do have a test kit, will get a test done on one . I also have quite a substantial pill collection from 2010 to present day so will test a few different pills that I think were made from the old precursors and some that I believe are PMK-Glycidate.
 
pothole said:
Yes I do have a test kit, will get a test done on one . I also have quite a substantial pill collection from 2010 to present day so will test a few different pills that I think were made from the old precursors and some that I believe are PMK-Glycidate.
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Brilliant!! You are the person we have been waiting for to test out the theory. All eyes on you mate. If I could suggest maybe take a stop watch and measure the time it takes for each to move from reaction to purple to / or black that could be a valuable insight, especially if we can reference other people and their experience of each pill variant.
 
Sid said:
@consumer & mister

I've done some research into the topic of the Aus pills/crystal situation and I have to say I'm not convinced. Which areas are each of you in? Have you tested your crystal and if so what was the marquis like?

Aus has a lower % of pills than the UK (significantly) in terms of how many pills actually contain MDMA. When I went on pill report 2/3 of the pills I was seeing which contained MDMA were Dutch made. And there were more snides than here in the UK.

There might be the odd lab making stuff from safrole, but it's certainly not a high percentage. You can tell it is being done, because you have pills with MDA and MDEA in them. Which I've discovered the reason they were more common back in the day is safrole can make any of the 3 through a similar reduction process that can't be discussed here. PMK is 2 steps further in the proces > MDMA than safrole, and as doesn't seem to be converted to the other two as often.

Try punting safrole MDMA into Google and safrole oil. There's a few articles worth reading, it's clear its use as a precursor became much less since 2006.
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I agree that a high percentage of MDMA in Aus is sourced from Europe but like anywhere, if you have good sources you can get good drugs, If you have the patience search my posts on BL and you will find I was saying that MDMA wasnt like MDMA was in 1990 to early 2000's years ago because I was privy to properly made MDMA and had both, I said this in these very threads but no one believed me. This was due partly to still being able to get MDMA made from safrole, even through the drought.

I posted evidence of this on pillreports a few years ago and was ridiculed from people in Holland of all places.

We in Aus have a limited supply of good drugs at ridiculous prices and most people get shit drugs. This doesnt mean we all do.

EDIT: Im an old cunt from the UK that now lives in Aus, so Ive seen both sides
 
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Yeah that's the way I assumed it was. I posted what I did as I believe that is the general big picture over there.

It seems in general the Dutch don't really see there is a problem. They are of the view MDMA is MDMA mostly I think.

Have to say I'm still surprised to be left jealous of a couple of Aussies and their domestic MDMA, never even knew it was made there at all until you guys posted. :)


Pothole nice one! I know Tec at least is of the same school of thought as me, that it all went downhill about then.
 
Its the same as the people that argue there is no difference in effects from different types of LSD crystals. They say LSD is LSD the only difference is potency which can be accounted for. I have tried a number of different types of acid over the years and different grades of crystal have different effects. I see no reason why mdma should be any different.
 
consumer said:
I have no doubt there is plenty of dutch mdma and pills in Australia. I was simply stating that safrole based mdma exists and is being made in Australia. I also know that the MDMA that moves in my circles is made here and is safrole based. I also explained where the safrole oil came from. I am not going to say anything more on an internet forum as quite frankly there is nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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True my friend.. IMO can't see why these guys cant get a good press and have sharp crisp looking pills like the imports from the dutch.. but then again it's a fine art and the people in the know will only share to the one's who apreciate it most
 
methyldreams said:
True my friend.. IMO can't see why these guys cant get a good press and have sharp crisp looking pills like the imports from the dutch.. but then again it's a fine art and the people in the know will only share to the one's who apreciate it most
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The source of my MDMA that i have used since early 2000 doesn't press pills. They have only ever sold the crystal. Its easier for them to do that and its what people prefer in the scene that it circulates in. I cant elaborate much more as loose lips sink ships.
 
I get crystal also or powder which is it smashed up, easier to cap... recently though I have discovered there are good pills going around I had blue supermans the other wwek, clean press in the shape of a shield.. we were flying and did make me feel like superman running around and bouncing off everything.. being crazy and drawing texter all over a chick was great night. but yeh 10 got 5 ppl off... all other pills iv had in last 5-10 years havnt been like these
 
I took em from late 90's to bout 2005. Green mitsi's were awesome I could name 20 top pills, but yeah crystal in oz is the safest and surest way to get rolling.... what dosage do you normally take to roll?
funny story when my mate 1st give me crystal mdma i tried smoking it cause i thought he gave me ice even though it was kinda a purple color.. im in melbourne dont go out as much these days but have lots of good connections in the scene still, wish everyone could experience real mdma all the time... thats what i would love to do is flood this great country with mdma and get rid of the evil crystal meth.
 
I go just over 100mg and that gets most rolling.. I still double drop so get the effects of jaw rattling and eye wobbles,. don't ask me why I like these effects but I guess cause they come with the feeling of wanting to talk to everyone, and just being happy. The smile from somebody on MDMA is magic I think. Could only compare with having a baby being in love etc
 
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