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Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

Sprodo said:
I've still got a handful of peach ones left and agree. Tempted to drop a bit of the blue ones but wary as no reports out there and there were a lot on the peach ones
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I take it you check out this site..

I've not looked into the pills but there is amazing info there. It was just on the off chance that you were not aware of the site.

If you have, top man! No harm in sharing knowledge.
 
Sid said:
I said this to treacle before, any UK seller claiming to have safrole synth MDMA is full of shit IMO. I asked a seller on the darknet claiming to have safrole mdma if his pills were made of the same MDMA, he said they weren't and he'd just got a new batch of MDMA in which he didn't know much about the origins of, yet he hadn't changed the listing to say this.

It's not easy to get large amounts of drugs through customs (commercial amounts), but it's even harder trying to get commercial amounts of precursors through which are watched since they are extracted from the plant. They can't get PMK oil through customs anymore never mind safrole.

It was a theory I put to the discussion a while back, about the colours of the marquis. The ones that went purple IME were better MDMA, not all of them but the pills people were raving about all went purple (UFO's, lions, nipples etc) I made a list somewhere in the last thread I think.
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Well, if the UFOs, nipples and lions were of a superior quality, then you can't believe that there's no proper MDMA about. ;) I do believe that the nipples are now on a second batch of inferior pills, and that Manchester no longer makes any proper MDMA, though.

Safrole is used in soaps/perfumes and other things, and it's definitely legal to use as intended. However, it's heavily watched, and I reckon anyone without undeniable proof that they're using it legitimately is going to get raided. There's one positive part to all of this... MDMA disappeared, due to huge busts of precursors, but someone figured out an alternative route. Granted, it's inferior stuff, but surely there's someone on this planet that can figure out a superior route, which requires no safrole. I'm just trying to keep the dream alive. ;)
 
Treacle said:
Well, if the UFOs, nipples and lions were of a superior quality, then you can't believe that there's no proper MDMA about. ;) I do believe that the nipples are now on a second batch of inferior pills, and that Manchester no longer makes any proper MDMA, though. Safrole is used in soaps/perfumes and other things, and it's definitely legal to use as intended. However, it's heavily watched, and I reckon anyone without undeniable proof that they're using it legitimately is going to get raided.

There's one positive part to all of this... MDMA disappeared, due to huge busts of precursors, but someone figured out an alternative route. Granted, it's inferior stuff, but surely there's someone on this planet that can figure out a superior route, which requires no safrole. I'm just trying to keep the dream alive. ;)
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That's not what I said though is it? There are certainly better batches of pills around, most of them go purple instead of black by marquis testing is one good sign. Although the proof is in the pudding.

It is my belief these pills are better and test this way because they are derived from a precursor that contained safrole. Not glycidate, an analogue which has never seen safrole. However it is MUCH more likely to be PMK oil the better stuff is made from, not safrole. It makes no difference to end product and it saves a couple of stages of processing plus means transporting FAR LESS volume of precursors.

There was still PMK oil being sold on markets last year that I saw.

I'm planning a candy flip sometime next month, if I can find some good MDMA. %)
 
Skoopz said:
If you have tested em and they are definitely from the same presser and not a copycat press I would say you are good to go but I have hesrd a few stories recently about some pills similar to dutch lions going around that are dodgy...
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Yep all bought at same time earlier in the year so all good.

Sadie said:
I take it you check out this site..

I've not looked into the pills but there is amazing info there. It was just on the off chance that you were not aware of the site.

If you have, top man! No harm in sharing knowledge.
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Yep aware of pill reports and nothing for the Blud Dutch lions, just a supposed content of each colour from a few months back
 
Gdk said:
Anyone know these?

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Stay Safe
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Just trying again
 
Stacey doolie is on bbc 3 talking about ecstacy. Worth a watch, although not exactly good journalism.
 
Treacle said:
Well, if the UFOs, nipples and lions were of a superior quality, then you can't believe that there's no proper MDMA about. ;) I do believe that the nipples are now on a second batch of inferior pills, and that Manchester no longer makes any proper MDMA, though.

Safrole is used in soaps/perfumes and other things, and it's definitely legal to use as intended. However, it's heavily watched, and I reckon anyone without undeniable proof that they're using it legitimately is going to get raided. There's one positive part to all of this... MDMA disappeared, due to huge busts of precursors, but someone figured out an alternative route. Granted, it's inferior stuff, but surely there's someone on this planet that can figure out a superior route, which requires no safrole. I'm just trying to keep the dream alive. ;)
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If it's openly known chemists are using PMK Glycidate as it's easier to source, why is this not as heavily watched as Safrole etc? This has been going on since 2012 so we're into the forth year of chemists cooking this way and there's never been more pills.

Come on law enforcement, get your shit together and make it all hard to source. Then maybe we'll see a 200% price hike for quality MDMA again.
 
Also looking for info on green dominos. Touted as 200+ as usual.

Stay Safe
 
pothole said:
Stacey doolie is on bbc 3 talking about ecstacy. Worth a watch, although not exactly good journalism.
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Agreed. Very poor journalism, loads of inaccuracies, scaremongering, irrelevant content and missed opportunities to promote harm reduction.
 
They are Dutch pills, from a regular press source, I was told they are 170mg.

What's the actual science behind PMK MDMA being inferior to Safrole MDMA? I remember the switch, 2009, and had crystal before and after.. things have never been better as far as it looks to me in amounts of pills/prices. And personally it feels exactly the same, tolerance aside. Safrole MDMA sounds like an advertising method. Yet is there actual tests of safrole in these pills leftover from Canada? Why wouldn't they use the same precusors considering they are easier to get, and they likely source from China too.

Just a side note cause it bothers me people still spread this bullshit;
The 84% figure was always bullshit spread around as the purity; 84% of MDMA HCI is actually MDMA and the rest is inert (i'm not a chemist i don't know why this is). But it never factors in.. if you send MDMA for testing, it can come back 90%+ because the inert part is irrelevant, all MDMA has that inert 16%. Think about it, it wouldn't even make sense if the max purity was 84%.. when a lab gives the results it's out of 100 percent of course. Someone I know a few years back around 2011 got two samples tested at 93 and 95 if i remember correctly. I don't know if the product is still up to those standards though.
 
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It's not MDMA made with PMK that's inferior, it's PMK glycidate MDMA. The difference is huge, but some people don't seem to notice any difference. It's a pretty weird combination of that new synth, individual brain chemistry and probably other factors. I just know that Turtles, UFOs, and some others have had EXACTLY the same effect on everyone that took them. I've got some nipples sat here, and I don't even want to risk monging myself out for three hours (like the last couple of times I've tried one), just to check if it's just me. The whole thing is a fucking joke. My mates keep asking about getting some more proper pills in, but I'm out of ideas. I'm getting to the point where I'm not actually arsed. It can't be SO hard to make some real MDMA! I'm not buying anything else, until I see this thread going crazy over a new press.
 
Its like we meet again. I don't know how many times or different ways you have to explain those beans are proper ecstasy (before the drought). People will not accept that the dutch make shit pills. After the drought all the md and pills, seemed to make people sorta pissed off. No ecstasy. Then started gobbling some PG's when they came out, and I was like oh yeah I remember now, MDMA makes you feel so good you get nervous. I remember having comedowns also, proper comedowns feeling like shit. As soon as my lot had those UK beans everyone agreed that they made you feel lush. Something pills have had a hard time doing over the last half decade (fuck). Thats how long we have been having this.
 
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