Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

[Treacle]

Well, I've been doing a lot of speed and 4-FA, recently, so I'm going to have to repeat my experiment with the nipples, at a further date. However, despite not expecting much from one pill, due to my stimulant tolerance, I did come up hard. I threw up twice, during the come-up, which is something that hasn't happened in a long time. The come-up felt like it lasted forever, and made my head spin (always a good sign). Once I was up, I didn't feel very sociable (I was alone, so that will have played a part), and I got very cold, so I just wanted to lie down and listen to music, which was very enjoyable. I did that for about three hours, until the peak was over, and then I was full of energy and wanted to go out and socialise.

I think my use of other stimulants hugely impacted the experience, and stopped me getting the energy I should have done. However, it's been a long time since I took a pill that made my pupils dilate so much, and I was still very much awake 12 hours later, and the afterglow has persisted until today. I woke up feeling fantastic. The next time I take them, I'll be out clubbing with friends, and I fully expect them to do the trick. It certainly wasn't a crap experience, especially since I was expecting nothing.

SilentRoller: That sounds amazing. I'll be tracking some of that down!

 

[jtrance9]

Thanks for the update Treacle

 

[Tec]

Thanks for the trip report Treacle.

I'd say this with the Nipples, it's quite known the dose is all over the place with these. I honestly think most people would be better off sourcing the MDMA that they're made from. Which isn't hard

 

[blondin]

....shows how long its been since I got on one - then all pills smelt of aniseed , all made from saffrole- that was my test burn a crumb on foil aniseed =mdma burnt rubber=speed

 

[Sprout]

No offence but how can you possibly judge how good a pill is when you take it alone? To me the majority of the experience comes from being around your mates and having a good time.

I think most of you are far too critical of trying to analyse the experience instead of just enjoying yourself on a night out or at a party. I've had pills both before and after the drought, admittedly the ones before the drought made me far more loved up and were full of the 'magic' but I honesty put that down to tolerance. The same way that weed will never affect me the same way as when I first got stoned, regardless of how long a tolerance break I've taken.

I completely agree with the second paragraph, but I take empathogens alone quite frequently - it's a whole different experience, granted, but it can be just as euphoric as a rave and with a much greater chance of positive introspection.

 

[Treacle]

As said above, I've taken pills alone hundreds of times, and I've been straight on the phone/online, trying to interact with people, playing music and fully enjoying the experience. Shite MDMA will leave me monged out, with my eyes shut, and uninterested in the world, whereas decent stuff will have me actively seeking interaction. Being alone may make a pill feel inferior, but being out may make a pill feel better than it really is. Being alone doesn't make much difference, when you've taken something that's truly magical. You'll enjoy yourself, no matter what.

Tec: Yeah, I'm going to get some of the MDMA, rather than more nipples, because I'd prefer to know what dose I'm taking, and what state I'm going to end up in.

 

[SmokingAces]

I messaged the seller of the nipples recently, asking was the MDMA the same stuff as in the pills and he told me it was different. When I had MDMA off him before it was similar looking to the batch he has now though, sandy almost, and it was some of the best MDMA I've had! this was about 18months ago too. Dropping MDMA alone you can still tell the quality for sure I find it quite enjoyable either way, but I never go as hard alone, just 1 or 2 doses. At a party usually 2-3x as much.

 

[Treacle]

^Same with doses alone. I only had one pill, on Friday. I would've had 2 or 3, if I'd been with others.

I hope the MDMA from him is as good as the stuff in the nipples, because I've ordered some! It says it's produced from safrole, so I'd hope so...

 

[SmokingAces]

Dont believe the hype with anyone in Europe who says their stuff is safrole man, it's very unlikely IMO think of how much harder it is to get through customs from Asia and more of the precursor you need? He told me he changed batches quite recently but there's already people in this thread saying it's banging stuff. But never trust a word any seller tells you most of them are all liars.

 

[Pinky_n_the_Brain]

Well I'm in abit of a mess at the minute just want to chill in my own world out the way I've had about 500ml whiskey 20mg Diaz thinking 1 pink nipple won't do me any harm? Just wanna chill in my own little world

 

[Pinky_n_the_Brain]

^Same with doses alone. I only had one pill, on Friday. I would've had 2 or 3, if I'd been with others.


I hope the MDMA from him is as good as the stuff in the nipples, because I've ordered some! It says it's produced from safrole, so I'd hope so...

The MDMA From him floored me mate was really strong and euphoric just just seemed the normal dose 150mg was too much for me

 

[Treacle]

Dont believe the hype with anyone in Europe who says their stuff is safrole man, it's very unlikely

Right, but the nipples and his MDMA seem like the best stuff about, so it certainly seems to be made from safrole.

Do it, Pinky, just switch to water, or you'll be like a prune tomorrow!

 

[ColtDan]

As said above, I've taken pills alone hundreds of times, and I've been straight on the phone/online, trying to interact with people, playing music and fully enjoying the experience. Shite MDMA will leave me monged out, with my eyes shut, and uninterested in the world, whereas decent stuff will have me actively seeking interaction. Being alone may make a pill feel inferior, but being out may make a pill feel better than it really is. Being alone doesn't make much difference, when you've taken something that's truly magical. You'll enjoy yourself, no matter what.

This

 

[oui]

Right, but the nipples and his MDMA seem like the best stuff about, so it certainly seems to be made from safrole.

Do it, Pinky, just switch to water, or you'll be like a prune tomorrow!

The MDMA I had off this person was just like all the dutch stuff tbh, nothing like the Pink Nipples at all. This was a few months ago and from a 130mg dose.

 

[piranha510]

SilentRoller, was the Canadian MD the stuff that's been mass spectrometry tested at 97%, and a champagne colour?

 

[Sprout]

Only the liberated MDMA base is possible to be 97% pure and given it's a rather manky oil (like Amphet.) before it's salted out, it is never supplied or consumed as such.

 

[SilentRoller]

SilentRoller, was the Canadian MD the stuff that's been mass spectrometry tested at 97%, and a champagne colour?

I can't vouch for the mass spec testing. However, I can say the colour was somewhat 'champagne' like yes.

For anyone who is wondering (as I keep getting PMs). The MDMA was bought from a UK based, email-only vendor, who sources his gear from Canada. I spoke to him yesterday, and due to the current influx of darknet busts, he isn't accepting new customers currently.

 

[SmokingAces]

It's the way GC/MS testing is done I've seen MDMA tests of 92% by GC/MS in the last few years being talked of as the best anyone has tried. The 97% stuff is the MDA that seller has I thought, unless he has MDMA of the same purity, I've not looked.
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-602797.html

Also be aware most of the Dutch stuff sold as 84% pure by their method (the max attainable purity) is nowhere near that. Recent test results of Dutch vendors via the GC/MS method as low as 69%.

 

[Sprout]

It falls more to linguistics than chemistry, oddly, but: Mass Spec only works for ionised compounds (it's the very first step) so a value of 0-100% is attainable with reference to proportion of MDMA Freebase to impurities.
MDMA as the base makes up 84% of the molar mass when it is compounded with HCl, so 200mg MDMA HCl is a max of 168mg MDMA.

Every one markets their shit as 84%, as you say it is simply bollocks most of the time.

 

[JG0007]

Very unlikely mate. MDA has almost ceased to to exist in this country for years. Very few of the DNM vendors even have access to it, it has to be bought in from Canada. In your case, it could have just been high quality MDMA. I had some MDMA crystal 6 months ago that was pure white with no smell. Absolutely wiped the floor with me more than anything ever has. I assume it was as close to pure MDMA hcl as you could get...

This was 2010 in Ireland.