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Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

Sid said:
Yeah but either way you don't want to consuming a shit load of impurities or bash. I like my drugs pure, MDMA seems as shit as coke these days the general quality, no care being taken in production.

Tec I always get a better whack from it with a full meal and plenty of endorphins available for release :D
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Yeah I've mustered up a 7-meat sandwich and a massive cofee in preparation, shove your Vitamin C and 5HTP pre-load up your arse. :D
 
That's the spirit eh mate :) the 7-meat sandwich sounds as good as the MDMA to me right about now =D
 
Sid said:
Yeah but either way you don't want to consuming a shit load of impurities or bash. I like my drugs pure, MDMA seems as shit as coke these days the general quality, no care being taken in production.

Tec I always get a better whack from it with a full meal and plenty of endorphins available for release :D
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I'm a little bit of a stickler for purity myself, shockingly. I occasionally put in a bit of time and make use of my education for exactly the thing it was never intended for and just clean up the stuff myself.

Cowboy Chemists make Moonshine.
Actual Chemists make cask matured Glenfiddich.

And yeah, as much food beforehand is crucial, but with an empty stomach. 1g of Calcium Carbonate will help absorption.

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Calcium Carbonate is an antacid essentially isn't it? Saw quite a few people on Reddit think that it gives you a longer better roll because acid breaks down the MDMA more slowly. I can see the logic but I don't think there's much to it.
 
Yeah, basifying the GI tract results in less Amphetamine being excreted before metabolism, increasing both peak plasma concentration and duration.

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and I have a pot of stuff sitting right next to me. :/
 
Very informative read mate :) Invaluable information really.

Didn't catch your reply about the calcium until now so I went in without about. About 20 mins since I dropped, feeling non-optimistic about it all to be honest.
 
Thank you, it's literally what I'm here to provide. :)
You could still dose the Calcium, or even just a glass of milk. Anything to reduce the free acid.

Another way to alter the effectiveness of MDMA is the old stand by for Opioids; Cytochrome enzyme inhibition/induction.
CYP450 is mainly responsible for the metabolism, with help from CYP2D6, and as such inhibiting these enzymes will result in a lower peak plasma concentration but increased duration.
Inducing these enzymes has the opposite effect - a much higher peak, but an equally reduced duration.

For future reference: Sprout exists in a land between Science and Drugs - I don't joke about such things.
Why take more when you can just take it a little smarter? ;)

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@ sprouty - I 'm a little bit of a stickler for purity myself, shockingly. I occasionally put in a bit of time and make use of my education for exactly the thing it was never intended for and just clean up the stuff myself.

Is there a thread or post regarding how to clean your MD. is it similar to cocaine and acetone?
 
Tec said:
Very informative read mate :) Invaluable information really.

Didn't catch your reply about the calcium until now so I went in without about. About 20 mins since I dropped, feeling non-optimistic about it all to be honest.
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So how did you get on Tec? Or are you still rocking...?
 
I had 2 Dutch lions last night and they were lovely. Very old school feeling to them, much better than anything else over the last few years, and strong. Slightly harsh comedown though, which, actually also reminds me of old school pills. I have a theory (could be totally wrong) that most of the Dutch bangers that feel mongy are actually MDEA, because the lions were so different, rushy, chatty, friendly, just like they used to be. Thoughts?

On a slightly different note, I had Diaz to help me sleep after the rave but it didn't really work. Any suggestions for an alternative? What about Xanax? Never had that
 
'Canadian MDMA' was as I feared.

180mg dose, 40 minutes to come up... decent amount of energy and some good body rushes, but had to put a lot of effort in to talk to my friends.

Started coming down at 90 minutes, felt too spangled to sort out a bomb or line so just dropped a Green Star and spent a couple of hours as a bit of a mess. Brother came round and had some pleasant bonding, despite me forgetting what I was saying every 5 minutes. I did another 200mg line at the end of the night and that put me on a decent level of brain fuzzing if nothing else.

I did wonder if my scales are borked though, I weighed out the initial 180mg bomb and it honestly looked small. The 200mg line later in the evening looked about 3 times the size. When I weighed my 'gram' this morning I had 0.75 of a gram, but the vendor is known for adding a bit more so who knows.

Completely unreliable report I know :P
 
Grassman said:
I had 2 Dutch lions last night and they were lovely. Very old school feeling to them, much better than anything else over the last few years, and strong. Slightly harsh comedown though, which, actually also reminds me of old school pills. I have a theory (could be totally wrong) that most of the Dutch bangers that feel mongy are actually MDEA, because the lions were so different, rushy, chatty, friendly, just like they used to be. Thoughts?

On a slightly different note, I had Diaz to help me sleep after the rave but it didn't really work. Any suggestions for an alternative? What about Xanax? Never had that
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No.
MDEA is no substitute for MDMA if you're marketing towards those who expect the push that N-Methyl provides, N-Ethylation provides a vastly different effect profile and simply isn't economically viable to produce as anything but itself.
MDEA is a niche drug, and pretty fukkin' lovely, but it's neither MDA nor MDMA. It's also pretty easy to detect via GC/MS/NMR.

I will always maintain, at least until it's proven incorrect by more than anecdotes, that MDMA is a very dose sensitive compound with multiple options: 50mg for therapeutic use, 100mg as an empathogenic stimulant, 120-150mg as "Ecstasy" and above that tends to result in the delirious, mongy, slightly disconnected state that isn't exactly enjoyable.
Impure or degraded compounds are nothing new, but they are much less an exciting concept than MDMA being a mythical beast that defies Chemistry.

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Grassman said:
On a slightly different note, I had Diaz to help me sleep after the rave but it didn't really work. Any suggestions for an alternative? What about Xanax? Never had that
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I think it's easy to get obsessed with the idea that one MUST get some sleep after a night of stim abuse. This actually causes anxiety which makes it even harder to get to sleep. It took me many years to realise this, but you actually feel a lot better the next day if you just accept you're not going to sleep. I find lying down in a quiet and darkened room for a couple of hours just as refreshing as sleep. If you feel a bit groggy when it's time to get up, the act of getting up and getting moving helps negate this. Chucking a load of benzos into the mix only conspires to make you feel even worse than you already think you are... ( or summat )
 
200mg line
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Jesus...I can't imagine snorting that much MDMA. The drip alone from 120mg snorted is enough to make me nearly puke. Can't say I don't feel saddened by this news though. I too have some Canadian MDMA from the naughty-web that I am giving a whirl next Friday.
 
^Maybe try washing it. Seems like the Candians are mostly not using PMK-glycidate but safrole. Just the purity that's lacking, that's the impression I get anyway.

Then again with Tec's stuff maybe not, when it's only lasting 90mins
 
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