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yeh hopefully he didn't. I know he was experimenting with other drugs, so that might of had something to do with it.
Me and somedud had some identical symptoms though...mainly the emotional numbness + an inability to connect to our friends, but then again he also had PTSD i believe.

Idk dude...i find it hard to believe i am depressed, but it is possible i guess

I would do anything to be able to cry right now ...anyways i think its good you can't drink, because drinking alcohol could stunt recovery tbh

Anyways, i wish you a speedy recovery
 
@mikek11, i know right ! im probably around 80% anhedonic...sucks donkey balls =[

Personally i think its damage to the serotonergic network, but it can also be caused by both depression and/or anxiety....the brain is too complex ffs
 
Personally i think its damage to the serotonergic network, but it can also be caused by both depression and/or anxiety....the brain is too complex ffs[/QUOTE]

I am 100 per cent sure my situation is the result of brain damage. I consumed an enormous amount of undoubtedly adulterated pills and literally had the sensation that my brain was burning this being following a 9 hour period of no memory. It felt like millions of fused had blow in my head and for days afterwards I had a burning sensation, blurred vision (which I still have). It felt like my brain had suffered a frontal lobotomy. I could virtually not function as a human for months afterwards. Now 2 plus years on I still have a plethora of terrible symptoms. Brain fog, memory problems, terrible sleep, blurred vision, virtually total anhedonia, the feeling like I have lost my personality, no motivation, the world is just different, but the worst is that I literally don't feel alive, I feel like I have lost my soul and am wondering aimlessly in some weird parallel universe. I lost my job, as I just couldn't concentrate and was making mistakes. This being following by 2 months of sick leave when I was virtually bed bound. But to be honest I could probably live with the majority of these symptoms but the feeling of not having a soul and actually not being alive is 24/7 torture. I also have terrible uncontrollable suicidale thoughts. I believe somedud's death was suicide and to be honest I am not surprised as my current existence it a daily fight for survival and not living.
 
Nambo, have you tried resorting to RX meds with your condition? Depression and anxiety can make people absolutely non functioning on its own, for example in cases of catatonic depression. Even with major depression some people forget how to form words and thusly unable to communicate properly. Anxiety for example sometimes produces so much dysphoria that people are unable to get out of bed while suffering great unexplained pains and it has very little to do with brain damage per say. Look how many strange and horrible symptoms people suffer withdrawing from benzodiazepines and it is all due to chemical disbalance which does not even primarily involve serotogenic system.
 
Mikek11 said:
Nambo, have you tried resorting to RX meds with your condition? Depression and anxiety can make people absolutely non functioning on its own, for example in cases of catatonic depression. Even with major depression some people forget how to form words and thusly unable to communicate properly. Anxiety for example sometimes produces so much dysphoria that people are unable to get out of bed while suffering great unexplained pains and it has very little to do with brain damage per say. Look how many strange and horrible symptoms people suffer withdrawing from benzodiazepines and it is all due to chemical disbalance which does not even primarily involve serotogenic system.
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I had crippling anxiety initially but that literally stopped overnight after 4 months. I have been on anti anxiety drugs but am no longer on these. I felt no difference on or off them. I have also been on a couple of Anti depressants and have not noticed any improvement on these. I'm debating weaning off these as I know some people on this forum, particularly BBen and FBC believe these are detrimental when recovering from neurotoxicity damage which I really believe it is. This isn't anxiety fuelled. Before what I guess can be called as overdose I could not have been happier and have no history (or family history) of mental illness.
 
Mikek11 said:
Nambo, have you tried resorting to RX meds with your condition? Depression and anxiety can make people absolutely non functioning on its own, for example in cases of catatonic depression. Even with major depression some people forget how to form words and thusly unable to communicate properly. Anxiety for example sometimes produces so much dysphoria that people are unable to get out of bed while suffering great unexplained pains and it has very little to do with brain damage per say. Look how many strange and horrible symptoms people suffer withdrawing from benzodiazepines and it is all due to chemical disbalance which does not even primarily involve serotogenic system.
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I'm the exact same as Nambo I tryed ssri nothing helped. The blurry vision brain fog and head pressure there's no way this is depression/ anxiety
I honestly don't know what to do I have a family which I love its far to hard nobody understands
 
Nambo said:
Personally i think its damage to the serotonergic network, but it can also be caused by both depression and/or anxiety....the brain is too complex ffs

I am 100 per cent sure my situation is the result of brain damage. I consumed an enormous amount of undoubtedly adulterated pills and literally had the sensation that my brain was burning this being following a 9 hour period of no memory. It felt like millions of fused had blow in my head and for days afterwards I had a burning sensation, blurred vision (which I still have). It felt like my brain had suffered a frontal lobotomy. I could virtually not function as a human for months afterwards. Now 2 plus years on I still have a plethora of terrible symptoms. Brain fog, memory problems, terrible sleep, blurred vision, virtually total anhedonia, the feeling like I have lost my personality, no motivation, the world is just different, but the worst is that I literally don't feel alive, I feel like I have lost my soul and am wondering aimlessly in some weird parallel universe. I lost my job, as I just couldn't concentrate and was making mistakes. This being following by 2 months of sick leave when I was virtually bed bound. But to be honest I could probably live with the majority of these symptoms but the feeling of not having a soul and actually not being alive is 24/7 torture. I also have terrible uncontrollable suicidale thoughts. I believe somedud's death was suicide and to be honest I am not surprised as my current existence it a daily fight for survival and not living.
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I also think i have some sort of frontal lobe atrophy/prefrontal cortex atrophy. I can function to an extent, but i also have the same feelings of no personality and i'm soulless. I used to think about suicide on a daily basis about 1-2 months ago, but recently i've kind of just accepted my condition.

Anyways, never give up hope....for example have you heard about induced pluripotent stem cells ? They are basically the same as embryonic stem cells in terms of proliferation, morphology, expression of markers, differentiation ect, the only difference being they are PATIENT-SPECIFIC, eg they can derived from YOU and applied to YOU.

Its a recent phenomenon, discovered by some Japanese brudda called Shinya Yamanka in 2006, and since then its come a long way with improving protocols for the reprogramming of mature cells into pluripotent cells.

induced pluripotent cells are relatively easy to make as well, and it basically offers great hope to people with actual brain damage from drug abuse. So in essence its possible that within the next few years there could be some sort of cell-replacement technology that could alleviate symptoms ! Never give up hope dude
 
Hey Chet,

I am experiencing very similar things to what you've described. I was at a 3-day festival in June when I took 350mg of MDMA sandwiched between two days of drinking and Adderall. Since then my mind has not been the same.

While I have been lucky to avoid many of the depression and de-personalization related symptoms people have been describing, for the past five months I have experienced severe cognitive impairment. I have brain fog, trouble concentrating, memory problems, and impaired verbal fluency.

I used to consider myself a very intelligent and outgoing person. I feel like that part of me has been dimmed and muted.
My biggest fear was that this would be permanent. That I would be different, forever. Up until recently it certainly felt that way.

I want share with you that I can confidently say that I am improving. It may not feel like it at first because you feel so much worse than before that you don’t notice the improvement, but eventually you will get over the hump and notice things are getting more normal.

The last three weeks or so have become okay. Not great, but bearable. My memory is better. I’m rarely very articulate, but I’ve stopped fumbling my words. I am able to think on my feet again. The head-pressure and brain-fog has subsided (realized much of this is anxiety driven). I can drink coffee again without getting brain fog-which has been a life-saver at work. Overall I’d say I’m about 80% back at 5 months in.

Some big things that helped me:
Exercise: I try to get to the gym as often as possible, either to lift or play basketball. A big moment in my recovery occurred when I was stretching after a workout. Ease my mind by Skrillex came on and I felt this calm and happiness wash over my entire body. I had forgotten I could feel so damn good.

Support: I reached out to my parents and came clean with what happened. They have been very supportive. It’s great to have people who you can just talk to without worrying if they believe you or will judge you.

Mindset: I have accepted this is going to take a long time. I’ve stopped beating myself up over little screw-ups, they’re going to happening while I recover. This has helped with the anxiety.

Supplements: Mixed bag on this one. I am tried a variety of herbal supplements (bacopa, lion’s mane, fish oil) with little effect. I’ve stopped all of them with the exception of fish oil. I also tried piracemtam, which actually work pretty well for a bit. I felt more motivated and found it easier communicate. I still had trouble comprehending, but I had less trouble expressing. However, it intensified the brain fog so I decided to stop.

All in all, it's been a struggle but I have faith that I will recover. You will too. Stay strong and keep fighting.


Richie
 
Richie thanks for the post.

Glad to hear your brain fog and head pressure has subsided, and that your memory is improving. Also very promising to hear you can drink coffee again too.

Idk if anyone else is like me but exercise is def the hardest part. I was never big on it before, and now it's even harder to motivate myself due to the general lack of motivation plus the 3-4 hours of sleep per night.

If you have any other recovery tips feel free to post them.
 
Found some promising info through a link to a study that was on another thread on bluelight from a couple of years ago.

Also in line with our data, several studies support reversibility of the SERT binding changes in relation to MDMA use; cerebral SERT binding is reduced in MDMA users with a relatively short abstinence of 24 days,18 70 days (women only),17 and 145 days,19 but is normal in MDMA users with longer abstinence periods of 514,18 885,17 and 100068 days. A follow-up study by Buchert et al69 of their previous cohort,18 as well as 2 independent studies,19,66 further support the notion that a long-term recovery of SERT availability takes place after termination of MDMA use. By extrapolation, we estimate that full recovery of pallidostriatal SERT binding takes place approximately 200 days after the last MDMA dose; this estimate is in accordance with Buchert et al,69 who suggest that full recovery takes from several months to a few years. As a consequence of our study design, this calculation is based on interindividual rather than intraindividual data.
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It looks like recovery is possible, it just might many months if not years. 1000 days just a little under 3 years. I will say, I haven't really seen many posts from people who have been experiencing this that long. Most of the posts I'm seeing are people who have been dealing with LTC for a few months to a year, with some posts of more than a year or so.

I have seen a post on another forum where someone dealt with this for 6 years, but she was a frequent user. One thing I've noticed is that many of us on here had a similar experience which was mainly taking a large dose of mdma combined with alcohol.

Then again there are other studies such as this one (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10366642) which suggest that some damage may be permanent. However this was done with monkeys and not humans.

Also, I'm curious if anyone here has ever used high dose cannabis oil for their symptoms. I'm not sure how many are familiar with Rick Simpson, but he claims that the highly pure cannabis oil he has made (and tells people how to make for free) cures cancer and other ailments. I'm not sure if it would help for us, but I've thought about trying to travel to a legal state to try some.

I have not seen anything in any LTC comedown threads on any websites where someone has used the oil, so I figured I would just make a comment here to see if anyone has used it. The philosophy is that it is healing and the oil helps the body heal itself. People have apparently used it in the treatment of brain tumors with some success. Again though, if we have actual brain damage, not sure if it would help, but it might.
 
richie0777 said:
Hey Chet,

I am experiencing very similar things to what you've described. I was at a 3-day festival in June when I took 350mg of MDMA sandwiched between two days of drinking and Adderall. Since then my mind has not been the same.

While I have been lucky to avoid many of the depression and de-personalization related symptoms people have been describing, for the past five months I have experienced severe cognitive impairment. I have brain fog, trouble concentrating, memory problems, and impaired verbal fluency.

I used to consider myself a very intelligent and outgoing person. I feel like that part of me has been dimmed and muted.
My biggest fear was that this would be permanent. That I would be different, forever. Up until recently it certainly felt that way.

I want share with you that I can confidently say that I am improving. It may not feel like it at first because you feel so much worse than before that you don’t notice the improvement, but eventually you will get over the hump and notice things are getting more normal.

The last three weeks or so have become okay. Not great, but bearable. My memory is better. I’m rarely very articulate, but I’ve stopped fumbling my words. I am able to think on my feet again. The head-pressure and brain-fog has subsided (realized much of this is anxiety driven). I can drink coffee again without getting brain fog-which has been a life-saver at work. Overall I’d say I’m about 80% back at 5 months in.

Some big things that helped me:
Exercise: I try to get to the gym as often as possible, either to lift or play basketball. A big moment in my recovery occurred when I was stretching after a workout. Ease my mind by Skrillex came on and I felt this calm and happiness wash over my entire body. I had forgotten I could feel so damn good.

Support: I reached out to my parents and came clean with what happened. They have been very supportive. It’s great to have people who you can just talk to without worrying if they believe you or will judge you.

Mindset: I have accepted this is going to take a long time. I’ve stopped beating myself up over little screw-ups, they’re going to happening while I recover. This has helped with the anxiety.

Supplements: Mixed bag on this one. I am tried a variety of herbal supplements (bacopa, lion’s mane, fish oil) with little effect. I’ve stopped all of them with the exception of fish oil. I also tried piracemtam, which actually work pretty well for a bit. I felt more motivated and found it easier communicate. I still had trouble comprehending, but I had less trouble expressing. However, it intensified the brain fog so I decided to stop.

All in all, it's been a struggle but I have faith that I will recover. You will too. Stay strong and keep fighting.


Richie
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Nice post, sounds very similar to my story. It's nice to see how you cope with it. :) Keep it up!
 
skeeto222 said:
I don't mean to ask a million questions but what were your initial symptoms?

Do you think you've recovered fully? Or is it only a partial recovery?

Thanks for responding.
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It's no problem - it just may take me a bit to respond if I'm busy with work or spending time with my family.

My initial symptoms were as follows:

- chronic brain fog (cognitive dysfunction)
- chronic uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat (especially when trying to sleep)
- near-constant de-personalization (felt like I was in a dream)
- frequent episodes of de-realization (altered perception of my senses in general, especially feeling/touch and seeing/sight)
- constant feeling of heaviness when standing (as if I was carrying something on my back)
- occasional and spontaneous feelings of numbness and tingling in extremities (mostly my fingers)
- occasional dizziness (feeling as if I was spun in circles)
- chronic difficulty concentrating and/or focusing (couldn't even read one page of a book)
- chronic fatigue and/or low energy levels (constantly feeling tired regardless of the fact that I was well-rested)
- occasional headaches in odd places (e.g. behind eyes, back of head)
- occasional muscle aches & pains (similar to sore muscles felt the day after exercising/working out)
- vivid dreams at times (and they were weird and random)
- chronic depression (due to feeling hopeless + fearing that I'd never recover)
- chronic anxiety (due to feeling hopeless + fearing that I'd never recover)
- frequent panic attacks (due to flashbacks mainly of becoming ill + thoughts of never feeling "normal" again)
- chronic paranoia (due to same reasons as anxiety and depression)
- occasional bouts of insomnia (most likely due to the chronic anxiety and paranoia)
- frequent bouts of acute shortness of breath (brought on by the combination of asthma + distress from LTC symptoms)
- frequent episodes of sudden chills (I have no idea why)
- a lot of mood swings (a result of having to deal with other LTC symptoms)
- a lot of suicidal ideation (for obvious reasons)
- occasional bouts of tinnitus (also known as ringing in one or both ears - I've been told it's known to occur due to stress, high blood pressure, etc.)
- frequent digestion issues (upset stomach, irritable bowel, colitis - not certain why I experienced this but could be due to state of constant distress)

I think I've recovered 99%. I'd say that because, while the LTC symptoms are thankfully long gone now, the truth is that I was extremely reckless with my short and long term health over the course of several years by way of having consumed (and mixed together) a lot of MDMA, Cocaine, Meth, Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana, Opioids, Benzos, Z-drugs, Ketamine, LSD, etc. (and there is absolutely no such thing as a risk free drug). And I have no doubt that all that abuse of my vital organs over such a long span of time has surely left my body with physical scars. So that's why I say 99% rather than 100.

Edit - By the way, that study you shared with us up above seems to me (based on my own experience) to make sense when considering that it took me a long freakin' time (a little over 19 months / ~578 days) to recover. And damn it, the progress was incredibly slow. There were times/days (I noted them as "bumps in the road to recovery" in my journal) when frustration drove me very close to making a regretful decision (which would have had fatal implications).
 
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ro4eva said:
It's no problem - it just may take me a bit to respond if I'm busy with work or spending time with my family.

My initial symptoms were as follows:

- chronic brain fog (cognitive dysfunction)
- chronic uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat (especially when trying to sleep)
- near-constant de-personalization (felt like I was in a dream)
- frequent episodes of de-realization (altered perception of my senses in general, especially feeling/touch and seeing/sight)
- constant feeling of heaviness when standing (as if I was carrying something on my back)
- occasional and spontaneous feelings of numbness and tingling in extremities (mostly my fingers)
- occasional dizziness (feeling as if I was spun in circles)
- chronic difficulty concentrating and/or focusing (couldn't even read one page of a book)
- chronic fatigue and/or low energy levels (constantly feeling tired regardless of the fact that I was well-rested)
- occasional headaches in odd places (e.g. behind eyes, back of head)
- occasional muscle aches & pains (similar to sore muscles felt the day after exercising/working out)
- vivid dreams at times (and they were weird and random)
- chronic depression (due to feeling hopeless + fearing that I'd never recover)
- chronic anxiety (due to feeling hopeless + fearing that I'd never recover)
- frequent panic attacks (due to flashbacks mainly of becoming ill + thoughts of never feeling "normal" again)
- chronic paranoia (due to same reasons as anxiety and depression)
- occasional bouts of insomnia (most likely due to the chronic anxiety and paranoia)
- frequent bouts of acute shortness of breath (brought on by the combination of asthma + distress from LTC symptoms)
- frequent episodes of sudden chills (I have no idea why)
- a lot of mood swings (a result of having to deal with other LTC symptoms)
- a lot of suicidal ideation (for obvious reasons)
- occasional bouts of tinnitus (also known as ringing in one or both ears - I've been told it's known to occur due to stress, high blood pressure, etc.)
- frequent digestion issues (upset stomach, irritable bowel, colitis - not certain why I experienced this but could be due to state of constant distress)

I think I've recovered 99%. I'd say that because, while the LTC symptoms are thankfully long gone now, the truth is that I was extremely reckless with my short and long term health over the course of several years by way of having consumed (and mixed together) a lot of MDMA, Cocaine, Meth, Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana, Opioids, Benzos, Z-drugs, Ketamine, LSD, etc. (and there is absolutely no such thing as a risk free drug). And I have no doubt that all that abuse of my vital organs over such a long span of time has surely left my body with physical scars. So that's why I say 99% rather than 100.

Edit - By the way, that study you shared with us up above seems to me (based on my own experience) to make sense when considering that it took me a long freakin' time (a little over 18 months / 548 days) to recover. And damn it, the progress was incredibly slow. There were times/days (I noted them as "bumps in the road to recovery" in my journal) when frustration drove me very close to making a regretful decision (which would have had fatal implications).
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No HPPD? Floaters, after images and stuff? I still have that after 14 months, if you had that, did it ever go away?
 
skeeto222 said:
Found some promising info through a link to a study that was on another thread on bluelight from a couple of years ago.



It looks like recovery is possible, it just might many months if not years. 1000 days just a little under 3 years. I will say, I haven't really seen many posts from people who have been experiencing this that long. Most of the posts I'm seeing are people who have been dealing with LTC for a few months to a year, with some posts of more than a year or so.

I have seen a post on another forum where someone dealt with this for 6 years, but she was a frequent user. One thing I've noticed is that many of us on here had a similar experience which was mainly taking a large dose of mdma combined with alcohol.

Then again there are other studies such as this one (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10366642) which suggest that some damage may be permanent. However this was done with monkeys and not humans.

Also, I'm curious if anyone here has ever used high dose cannabis oil for their symptoms. I'm not sure how many are familiar with Rick Simpson, but he claims that the highly pure cannabis oil he has made (and tells people how to make for free) cures cancer and other ailments. I'm not sure if it would help for us, but I've thought about trying to travel to a legal state to try some.

I have not seen anything in any LTC comedown threads on any websites where someone has used the oil, so I figured I would just make a comment here to see if anyone has used it. The philosophy is that it is healing and the oil helps the body heal itself. People have apparently used it in the treatment of brain tumors with some success. Again though, if we have actual brain damage, not sure if it would help, but it might.
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I've wondered about this oil as well. From what I hear, it works wonders. I'm like looking into it myself
 
I think this article, though anecdotal, might give us some hope:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1297411/is-simpson-oil-really-all-they-claim-it-to-be/

Basically this guy got in a bad accident, had brain damage/nervous system damage. Got to the point he could barely walk because his symptoms because of muscle tightness and lack of ability of his nervous system to properly transmit messages to his muscles.

Started smoking weed and it reduced pain allowed him to move, then started taking RSO and claims he is essentially cured as long as he uses it.

I don't know if this would work for us. Does anyone here still smoke weed? I took some dabs last week and it was weird, I felt high sort of...not as high as I feel like I should have felt, and I did get kind of paranoid, so I'm not sure if it would work but I do have hope. Has anyone tried eating edibles since LTC started?
 
skeeto222 said:
I think this article, though anecdotal, might give us some hope:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1297411/is-simpson-oil-really-all-they-claim-it-to-be/

Basically this guy got in a bad accident, had brain damage/nervous system damage. Got to the point he could barely walk because his symptoms because of muscle tightness and lack of ability of his nervous system to properly transmit messages to his muscles.

Started smoking weed and it reduced pain allowed him to move, then started taking RSO and claims he is essentially cured as long as he uses it.

I don't know if this would work for us. Does anyone here still smoke weed? I took some dabs last week and it was weird, I felt high sort of...not as high as I feel like I should have felt, and I did get kind of paranoid, so I'm not sure if it would work but I do have hope. Has anyone tried eating edibles since LTC started?
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At least you can smoke weed still. It makes my heart race now. Was a chronic weed smoker prior to my ltc. Edibles sounds like a terrible idea. Be glad you can smoke for now and then down the road try edibles.
 
To be honest I really haven't tried smoking that much.

I took one or two hits of hash oil. That was it. It didn't cause me to super freak out. It def wasn't like getting high prior to this. And I did focus on my current situation to an extreme. Didn't exactly make me feel good. Aside from that one time I have denied weed when it has been offered to me since because the first time I had a major psychotic freak out. I was a big weed smoker prior to this as well.

I want to try to get more weed and smoke some more to see how things go. I don't want to rush out for the RSO though. I think if I can handle edibles and they don't debilitate me I'll consider the RSO.


It sucks doesn't it? Going from smoking weed all the time to being practically unable to smoke.
 
skeeto222 said:
To be honest I really haven't tried smoking that much.

I took one or two hits of hash oil. That was it. It didn't cause me to super freak out. It def wasn't like getting high prior to this. And I did focus on my current situation to an extreme. Didn't exactly make me feel good. Aside from that one time I have denied weed when it has been offered to me since because the first time I had a major psychotic freak out. I was a big weed smoker prior to this as well.

I want to try to get more weed and smoke some more to see how things go. I don't want to rush out for the RSO though. I think if I can handle edibles and they don't debilitate me I'll consider the RSO.


It sucks doesn't it? Going from smoking weed all the time to being practically unable to smoke.
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More than sucks. From my experience in the past though edibles were always crazy as hell and made people I know feel like they were losing their minds without an ltc. It's much more potent than smoking it. Not tryna freak you out just a heads up. Try taking shotguns from friends of bud and work your way back into hitting blunts maybe. I'm in Florida and bud isn't legal here yet. If they ever legalize it though then game time!! There are different strands that won't cause you to freak out that can be prescribed etc. that's what I'm waiting for because my friends now smoke the most potent shit ever that I can't handle yet.
 
Hello everyone,
just interested if anyone ever heard of someone that recovered from LTC without any meds/supplements/anti deppressant/anti-anxiety.. etc
and if u do know/spoke with someone that recovered with just healthy life.. and time..
what is the tips? how long did it take?
im 3.5 months into this LTC.
feeling better then the first month ofc but still shitty..

my symptoms atm:
dizinness, blurry vision, feeling exhausted/tired even after 9hours night sleep.. sometimes anxiety or little bit headaches.. and just feeling like im not sober because of the diziness and the blurry vision..

if someone can relate to the symptoms... i would like to hear
i do workout 3-4 times a week.. trying to eat healthy .. thats it.. not smoking not drinking and also avoiding cofee..

thx alot
 
Redingtton said:
Hello everyone,
just interested if anyone ever heard of someone that recovered from LTC without any meds/supplements/anti deppressant/anti-anxiety.. etc
and if u do know/spoke with someone that recovered with just healthy life.. and time..
what is the tips? how long did it take?
im 3.5 months into this LTC.
feeling better then the first month ofc but still shitty..

my symptoms atm:
dizinness, blurry vision, feeling exhausted/tired even after 9hours night sleep.. sometimes anxiety or little bit headaches.. and just feeling like im not sober because of the diziness and the blurry vision..

if someone can relate to the symptoms... i would like to hear
i do workout 3-4 times a week.. trying to eat healthy .. thats it.. not smoking not drinking and also avoiding cofee..

thx alot
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Im now 15 months in and still not fully recovered. I did it without any medication. But I must admit, I havent done everything for it. I drink alcohol ocasionally, which always puts me back 2 steps. Just try to get a good day/night rhythm, eat healthy, workout alot, go outside (even though its hard). I think with medication it would go faster. I will try that if it does't go quick enough. Because after 15 months im pretty much done with it..
 
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