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Methadone withdrawal day 23...

Good piont.
The protein powders (smoothies) are great for adrenal health, as they have many of the essential amino acids your body needs to replenish glandular function, and are needed for cognitive function.
If you're sleeping semi-comfortably approx. 4+hrs at a time, clonidine might not be best...But it sure helps if yer kicking the covers, sweating, and have a heart rate like you been smokin stones...
I'll dig around for natural adrenal support.
Did you get in to the Doc.?
 
It's day 16. I didn't go to the doctor partly because I can't afford it and mainly because I have literally zero energy. I can eat now, but I still don't have any energy. Like, my feet actually drag when I have to get up. I sleep all night on klonopin and gabapentin. I'm taking multivitamins and b12 but I might as well be in a coma for the amount of movement I manage.

not to mention the absolute lack of enjoyment from anything at all.
 
i thought I had the mental part under control- no craving at all. I thought it would be easier than the acute but I guess that was methadone talking. Even though I felt no high from it, it kept me from wanting anything else. Or it could just be my brain is dehydrated of any enjoyable anything and doesn't remember how to function. Either way, this sucks.

and I've always been a positive person.
 
This too shall pass. Look back at days 3,5,&7. You are coming to a point in your detox where life's joy will begin again. You will notice your child's smile,how beautiful the day is. You've got this.
 
True. It's been discovered that I'm pretty anemic right now so there's that.
 
Lynn8514 said:
And you're right, fatigue may very well be the fuck this symptom.
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Exercise is the cure for fatigue. . I know your going to murder the sadistic basterd that made this so, but you will have to wait in line behind me.

Slow, very easy, and prolonged is how you want to start out.

When we exercise it causes the formation of neurotransmitters in our brain. If we exercise hard it also causes these chemicals to be released.

For now we just want to stimulate the production and not cause the release.

Exercise also increases neuro plasticity and nuero regeneration.
 
Oh Lord. Exercise.. Ha the price for those few moments of euphoria are soooo not worth it. I have a treadmill but I'm about 150% sure I'd fall right off if I tried that so it'll have to be walking around the living room for now.

even then, I don't think I could rule out tripping over my feet and still falling on my ass but I guess you gotta start somewhere.
 
Slow.. slow.. slow at first.;) You will know if your overdoing it as you will feel pretty good for little while and then feel worse. This will indicate that you are pushing it to hard.

Start by taking the kiddo for a stroll down to a park. You can mix this with any efforts you are perusing towards mindfulness and keeping your thoughts in the moment.

Photography and painting are really enjoyable activities that can help us learn to center in the moment.

I love the nutrient shake recommendations and that you have started the vitamins.. I would certainly add on both a decedent quality Vitamin D suppliant and Fish Oil.

Green machine smoothies are expensive.. but so good.

You may feel like your getting crushed, but your the one that is crushing it 8o=D Nice fkn work!!!
 
From the notes I dug through, protein- get a protein powder w/ as many amino acids as you can find (26 me thinks)- high quality fish oil, for the full spectrum omega-3 fatty acids, xtra large doses of vitamin-C, full spectrum b-vitamins (avoid sole b-12), and get natural vitamin-D=sunlight, the only fully processed D-vit..
That is the protocol for healthy adrenal support.
If you're anemic right now, the pre-natals should help. Or go find a chelated iron supplement, along w/ the other minerals like mag., copper, zinc, etc.

I know this is not easy on the pocket book, but you are worth it, and will recover much more quickly.

Feel free to PM me if you're having a hard time navigating the vast world of supplements.
 
Thank you SN, I'm going to get as many as I can. Today has actually been surprisingly decent but I'm not nieve enough to think my brain doesn't need serious healing, or that the withdrawals are even over. I'm sure there's a new wave heading my way in the near future lol
 
first NA meeting.. Confused.

So I went to my first NA meeting (voluntarily) and got a little white chip (which I'm ridiculously proud of for some crazy reason). I enjoyed listening to everyone and I even spoke a little but I noticed there werent any people coming off or had come off methadone there. And, believe it or not, the 12 step program is new to me. After reading it, I'm not sure how I feel about using "Higher Power" instead of God. I'm a Christian and I'm not sure how that sits with me. Their steps are 100% in line with my beliefs but I use words like God and Christ not higher power.

i also feel weird about the sponsor thing. You never know if the same people will be at the meeting you choose so, what, are you just supposed to either interrogate everyone or pick at random?

am I overthinking this? I had a good time...

oh and crimson, is this what you meant (new thread thing)? Still learning the basics of this site lol
 
"After reading it, I'm not sure how I feel about using "Higher Power" instead of God. I'm a Christian and I'm not sure how that sits with me."

This is to try and make the fellowships accessible to non religious people. A higher power can be any power greater than ourselves. Many people who do not believe in God struggle mightily with the concept of consulting God. If your God is a higher power then role with it.

I have to say in my short tenner at BL this is the first time I have read this hang up with the fellowships. Thank you for posting it.
 
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Yeah, I'm not really sure why it bugs me either. I guess I didn't realize NA was spiritual at all, I literally had no clue about it. I think I just don't want anyone to expect me to take Christ out of my recovery. If it had been completely non spiritual, I wouldn't force my beliefs on anyone but I don't want them to expect me to say higher power instead of God or Christ if we are going to get spiritual about it. I'm all for religious freedom and I don't expect everyone to agree with me, I just don't want to be told not to use my particular faith when speaking (and I have no idea if they even would expect that). I'm probably being petty- it wouldn't be the first time. Lol
I read that NA is non religious but after reading the 12 steps, that's just not true no matter how you look at it. I guess that's why it caught me off guard.
 
Lynn8514 said:
Yeah, I'm not really sure why it bugs me either. I guess I didn't realize NA was spiritual at all, I literally had no clue about it. I think I just don't want anyone to expect me to take Christ out of my recovery. If it had been completely non spiritual, I wouldn't force my beliefs on anyone but I don't want them to expect me to say higher power instead of God or Christ if we are going to get spiritual about it. I'm all for religious freedom and I don't expect everyone to agree with me, I just don't want to be told not to use my particular faith when speaking (and I have no idea if they even would expect that). I'm probably being petty- it wouldn't be the first time. Lol
I read that NA is non religious but after reading the 12 steps, that's just not true no matter how you look at it. I guess that's why it caught me off guard.[/QUOTE
It's funny that you feel that way as many of us myself included find NA overly religious. But if your looking for a Christian centered program try a "celebrate recovery" meeting. Lots of church's switched to them instead of AA NA. It uses the same principals but adds some to it as well.
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Okay thanks. I've heard it's a toss up with NA on what type of group you'll be around. It wasn't so much the religion part that sketched me out, it just felt cultish kinda. Everyone speaking in unison in flat voices. It just weirded me out and the higher power part didn't help. I have weird hang ups. Like the word fellowship creeps me out too for no known reason lol
 
Ugh methadone wd is so cruel. The fun just never ends. It just takes and takes and takes and steals every positive trait about yourself. It doesn't stop with me either- my whole family gets to experience this joy.
i can say whatever about Na but mainly I was just pissed off that everybody else was so high on life and had zero experience with the unrelenting prolong mental and physical hell fire of methadone wd.
I might actually acquire a mental illness or personality disorder before this is over- or at least a new one since addiction is an uncurable disease itself according to all my new literature.
i can recognize that I sound like a whiny shit right now and I feel for everyone who has it worse, but I'm just a whiny tired little pansy and I feel better wallowing.
End rant.:!
 
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Haha your cool Lynn. This is your thread so feel free to whine as much as you want! I don't like those meetings for the same reasons you just talked about. Too much high on life for me. But the good news is the physical withdrawal should start easing up over the next week. You should be really proud of yourself for being so strong.
 
Lol I'm laughing now as I reread what I posted. Feelings and circumstances are so temporary. Everybody has their own battles. It's day 19- can you believe it? I'm getting closer to a full month faster and faster.. I'm starting to see that little light at the end of the tunnel. Barely, but I can see it.
 
Awesome job Lynn! I'm super proud of you, I know this hasn't been easy (understate I know). When I had to deal with the long, lingering withdrawal of opioids like methadone, finding a beginners type yoga class is a great way to get a little exercise. You can also just watch videos online and follow along. I never used to like yoga, and especially qigong, is the best way to loosen up without using your DOC. Qigong in particular, as it's all about stretching, which really really helps with methadone withdrawal in particular.

You have the ideal mindset. Armed with the understanding of the illusory and transitory nature of things, especially the knowledge that your feelings are always temporary and will pass if you let them, you will surely win your war.

It's all about who you feel - if you feel the wanting, clinging wolf, you'll end up struggling more and more with your suffering; if you feel the loving, kind wolf, you'll be more able to let go of feelings, enabling you to live with your pain as it comes and goes.

Feed the loving, kind wolf. It's all about Lovingkindness sometimes. Learn about it, practice it, and you'll become even more equanimous.

Keep up the amazing wok compañera!
 
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