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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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I missed the d on sacrificed because I am on a phone. Your ideology is illogical so you have to denegrate and name call.
missing 'd' not the issue. what does "may he of sacrificed" mean?

seriosuly, droppers, if you're going to troll and criticise others, at least try to find a way to string 4 or 5 words together correctly when doing so?

i just read this in the washington post: "even in the best possible situation when it comes to turnout and the vote choices of the rest of the electorate, the Republican presidential candidate in 2016 is going to have to pull off an absolutely heroic performance among Hispanic voters if he’s going to win."

so who's that going to be? trump's yer man right now - what's his approach to pulling off 'an absolutely heroic performance among Hispanic voters'?

alasdair
 
What I am saying is that even Obama voters are not all wanting a pathway to citizenship. Believe it or not most people believe in rule of law. lol I poll the people I come in contact with through work or friendship and I have confidence in what I say. Next time you talk to an average African American Obama supporter and see if you can find out what their stance is. I have yet to talk to one in support of a pathway to citizenship. I know I only have a sample set of 20 or so people but it is pretty eye opening. And the lower in education/ intelligence level the person is the less likely they are going to be pro illegal immigrant ime Ali I implore you to discuss these things outside of your social circle though I am doubting you know anyone from the ghettos. Not sure your part of Cali has one :)
 
...the liberal media...

This is why you people are not taken seriously by anyone with even an ounce of critical thinking skills. Liberal media? What, like the corporate news outlets owned by two or three media conglomerates? Yes, they are all a bunch of socialists, obviously.
 
Fox News is liberal media. Media has traditionally been liberal. How you define liberal is up to you. Remember most people arnt arm chair socialist like the fine posters of ce&p so the medias opinions are to the left of much of the populations IMO

Mind = BLOWN. Fox News is liberal? Give me a break. That's like saying Ronald Reagan was a communist.

No, the opinions espoused in the popular media is not to the left of much of the population...in fact, the opinions espoused in the media is the reason why so much of the population exhibits such conservative views when it goes against their own best interests. It's the reason why the Republican party has shifted so far to the right over the last 30 years. Seriously, Republicans from the 40s/50s/60s/70s would look at you like you're a giraffe if they were around today to see what's happened with their party.

Edit: I'll take being an "armchair socialist" over being an armchair crypto-fascist any day.
 
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your definition of liberal seems to be anybody who doesn't completely agree with you...

alasdair
lol as you see it big guy. If you couldnt tell I dont agree with much

Mind = BLOWN. Fox News is liberal? Give me a break. That's like saying Ronald Reagan was a communist.

No, the opinions espoused in the popular media is not to the left of much of the population...in fact, the opinions espoused in the media is the reason why so much of the population exhibits such conservative views when it goes against their own best interests. It's the reason why the Republican party has shifted so far to the right over the last 30 years. Seriously, Republicans from the 40s/50s/60s/70s would look at you like you're a giraffe if they were around today to see what's happened with their party.

Edit: I'll take being an "armchair socialist" over being an armchair crypto-fascist any day.

Calm down Gore yes fox is one in the same with the media as a whole imo. I actually listened to that debate on NPR the other day. Man I wish we could have media personalities like that now!
 
May he of sacrifice some of his principles in the process?

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May he have sacrificed some of his principles in the process?

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So often, I find people with a lack of a real comeback in an argument, that they look past what might be seen, and don't take a chance to build. Instead they just want to tear people down. It is obvious that this is what Droppers meant. Some people seem to confuse, perhaps their attention just dips out on this word, of with have in this way of speaking... Why is Droppers so attacked for such a thing when right and left we have people (on the left often- they're on your side!) who don't even use the proper 'than' instead of then? Quit trying to hang things on "lack of education" (or quality of it) and walk away, as if that somehow lets you claim victory.

Need I remind you of this very educated girl? Harvard Law Student, also a "realist" when it comes to 'race'.
Meet Stephanie Grace, the Harvard Law Student Who Started a Racist Email War
http://gawker.com/5527355/meet-step...rd-law-student-who-started-a-racist-email-war

"go read a textbook".
 
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Ron Paul, however I don't think that he's participating. He's probably the only politician in the US who has no intention to follow the agenda of the financial elite.

In my opinion though the big problem in the US is that you only have two political parties, although to some extent this could be an advantage, it also has its downsides. Two political parties can be easily controlled both by corporations and big banks, while countries with many political parties tend to have a more variegate opinion and stance on political and social topics.
 
Ron Paul, however I don't think that he's participating. He's probably the only politician in the US who has no intention to follow the agenda of the financial elite.

Thus while wildly popular, he was never given the chance to run as an official nominee.

Just as Sanders is wildly popular, and isn't going to garner the Democratic nomination. The financial sector of the economy IS the vanguard of American politics. Without that endorsement there is a very slim chance to even get the opportunity to gain a nomination from either of the two parties, regardless of whether or not the candidate is an enormously effective populist.

Pluralism anywhere at this point is a facade, I think.
 
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I'm not so sure if the financial establishment prefers trade protectionism...it's certainly not evidenced by the off-shoring of trillions of dollars worth of physical and financial capital.
 
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