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EADD Heroin discussion v.21 -- Big shout out to kkattastic :)

hexagram said:
Has anyone else had the no4 china white I got twice last week?

it's my first time with heroin. And I have to say I fucking loved it. Only problem is the nausea, and if you underdose it can be kind of underwhelming.

But when I got the first 'nod'. And I was just writhing around my bed in sleepy pleasure.

It remninded me a lot of the benzo and booze high. but 'rushier' with more body sensations, and stronger.

I could see how people could loose their lives to it.
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That stuff will get you addicted much faster than smoking the standard stuff, it's good but it's not really worth it and the withdrawal will be much worse if you do that stuff.. And honestly if you're contemplating suicide before doing and coming off opiates even from doing it from a reletivatly short time, a couple of months maybe there's been times in the first couple of days of withdrawal all I can think about is killing myself, and I've never had suicidal thoughts otherwise.
 
good point pred thats bangg on, withdrawl is worst mantally for me far worse than the physical shit. Good gear round me atm, best in months id say. very nice indeed. And yeah H gives a great body and head rush, if u iv that rush is increased 10 fold but lasts shorter, and the rush itself is very addictive. its what i miss the most any other roa jiust isnt the same even after months of no iv use. Its hard to forget.:(
 
over the years,every time i have tried to detox i get so suicidal-that is one of the reasons they put me on morphine(other reasons too inc legit pain).
from what i hear,it's pretty common.It led me down a strange path because i got into using suicide news groups.which led me to become involved in a 'sting'operation on an online predator that was a man in his 50s pretending to be a young,female nurse so he could get kids to hang themselves on cam while he watched.I was the bait.it's all on wiki and there's a vimeo doc about us but for now we can't talk to anyone about it as we have a deal with a US producer for a book/movie deal.crazy shit.also wound up chatting with a guy called Matthew Murray-look up 2007 colorado new life church shootings.the world of online suicide groups is never ending and it just moves from one platform to another.So yeah,suicidal ideation seems to be a big part of detox for most people-one that maybe draws them back in.But for me,I started out using to minimise the suicidal ideation,originally.
Also,if you are taking opiates and you feel sick,just be sick.it's not horrible like when you are usually sick from drink or flu or something.it's actually quite nice-refreshing.the more you fight it,the worse you will feel.our bodies make us sick to try and push out any toxins in us.your body spotted the toxin and wanted it out.that's all it is.just be sick and get it over with.you'll be buzzing afterwards
 
thats some crazy shit, and yeah my head falls to pieces drawing withdrawl, and the idea of ending it to end the pain crooses my mind all the time, tho im never usually a suicidal person. in fact far from it. It just seriously fucks your head that withdrawl process
 
da man said:
thats some crazy shit, and yeah my head falls to pieces drawing withdrawl, and the idea of ending it to end the pain crooses my mind all the time, tho im never usually a suicidal person. in fact far from it. It just seriously fucks your head that withdrawl process
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That's why my warning was aimed at hexagram, if you recently attempted suicide hex seriously don't keep doing heroin if you think you feel low now when you start coming off heroin physically and mentally, even from using a few days straight you are seriously putting yourself at risk it will make your depression and feelings of worthlessness 1000x worse, combined with the inability to feel comfortable and restlessness. You get physically addicted reallly fast though the mental addiction takes longer, you might not plan on getting addicted or even think of it as a concequence.. but then I've never met any other junkie who planned to get addicted when they started using originally.
 
Wanted to pass by and say hello Kat as I don't often get the chance to come through this thread..often. Don't know if you read the other threads here Kat, but I always like to read your posts and appreciate you being around. You are an eadd star <3
 
Is there anyone here who uses heroin recreationally rather than being addicted to it?
 
Ismene said:
Is there anyone here who uses heroin recreationally rather than being addicted to it?
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yeah mate i think thats near on impossible ive never met anyone who can do it. many think they can, but it always ends tthe same way. myself included believing many moons ago i could use recreationally.
Unless u dont have a good dealer or supply, but that dont count in my eyes, its just lack of availability.
 
Pretty much, the ugly opiate beast is a like one of them killers in teen movies, slowly plodding along chasing someone but somehow always catching them in the end. Only way I've known some people use it recreational is if they have to get a friende to buy it and they don't do it often for them. If you have a heroin dealers number yourself, more then likely you'll get addicted at some stage, might be months or years, but still pretty likely
 
Ismene said:
Is there anyone here who uses heroin recreationally rather than being addicted to it?
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me (at the moment) have been lowering my dose and only using on thurs/riday night the past two weekends, I didn't get any physical withdrawal this week apart from a bit of fatigue, Going to buy another .4 later this week then see if I can go two weeks and save it till my birthday after then.
 
PredatorVision said:
me (at the moment) have been lowering my dose and only using on thurs/riday night the past two weekends, I didn't get any physical withdrawal this week apart from a bit of fatigue, Going to buy another .4 later this week then see if I can go two weeks and save it till my birthday after then.
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Be careful as that's how most of us addicts started. First it is just maybe once a month then it becomes each weekend then a mid week treat and before you know it you will be doing it every day. Then one day you won't be able to score for whatever reason and suddenly you realise you are addicted.
It creeps up on you so I honestly would quit now while you can.
 
what will happen if i take 2mg of xanax for the first time? i haven't eaten in 5-6 hours as well..
 
I haven't used for months now.I am lucky that i have 400mg morphine script a day,so i am fine with that and a few benzos.am prescribed clonaz but have gone off them now and prefer the xanax that i get-generic from serbia,1mg tabs-so I feel like a bit of a cheat coming here when you guys are all still struggling with the dragon
way happier than when i was using and have managed to save a good amount of cash for my funeral and a few other things
Being so ill and having the emergency surgery just made me think of my own mortality and i don't want my family stressing over money for a funeral if I go,so I need to be sure there is enough there and also add my daughter to the account so she can get the money right away.No undue stressing at a difficult time.
I am also planning on getting a new tat.finally decided no more s/h and that I will not cut again.so I can get a tat.that's the thing if you are a self harmer,you have to commit to not doing it any more before getting a tat there.I'll never cover all my scars but i can detract from them.It's a big decision.It's been 30 long years of that shit.But things have changed so much;for the better,since i was in prison
I needed that time so badly.I knew it was the only way i would ever get out of that lifestyle and it worked.The biggest thing was getting a different maintenance treatment than just meth or subs.The extra choice made a world of difference.people don't see me as a junkie anymore.Life is good.I have a nice,new place to live with nothing illegal occurring. I can answer the door cos i paid my bills.I don't know anyone round here.i go to church on a Saturday evening and that's it!
I am a fraud and reading about your pain,I still remember the constant fear everyday-what if i can't get my meth-what if i can't score?desperation to the point of derogation.
I have been there for my kids who are way better with me now they know i am clean.I love to see my bank balance growing and am even planning a holiday in S Africa around Christmas time.Life couldn't be more different than before i went down.
Just that one change,and I am being treated like a human being.Everyone should have that option.of course,I wouldn't wish the very real pain and sickness on anyone,but to be treated like a human rather than just a junkie shit has changed my whole world.
yeah 2mg of xanax on an empty stomach will either make you puke or sleep.no tolerance-you should sleep on your side and no alcohol
 
I've been doing heroin around 4 years? I've never had a physical addiction but my use had got more and more frequent before I jumped ship to subs. It was just about to consume my life but then went on Subs and I'm not counting days and definitely not using now which is pretty sweet. My crack use has went up though but I'm trying to address that.
 
yeah thats anather trap people fall into. They think theyre doing great not using gear, but feel somethings missing so start smoking crack and before long just end up thrashing the crack , which is worse than gear in my eyes. as u are never satisfied after smoking crack, unlike ye olde brown.
 
da man said:
yeah thats anather trap people fall into. They think theyre doing great not using gear, but feel somethings missing so start smoking crack and before long just end up thrashing the crack , which is worse than gear in my eyes. as u are never satisfied after smoking crack, unlike ye olde brown.
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Aye, very true. Heroin itself is pretty adept at cutting an Opioid shaped hole into your entire life, but at least there is the possibility of being a functional Junkie (I never quite managed the functional aspect, though 8( ), with a heavy stim habit on top, or alone, that is all but impossible.

<3
 
I have to say that the only way I managed to maintain a life with a job and a roof over my head was by not getting into the crack.
That woulda had me on the streets in no time,fo sure
 
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