mydrugbuddy
Bluelighter
We have been given plenty of notice at least but currently i still love getting high and cant see myself quitting drugs at all just yet, even though it may be forced on me and everyone else by april 2016 if not earlier. For those that will find my whinging pathetic and soft i apologise, but i just wanted to start this thread, maybe get some different perspectives, and to hear from others that may be 'in the same boat' or a similar one at least.
At the moment i dont have much confidence that i can quit kratom and benzos, i still love getting high so much, im not sure that i can do it, maybe a very gradual taper on the kratom will be the way to go. Im currently taking 40-50g a day over several doses, 10g at at time. I tried stem and vein this week, but i couldnt handle it, I wasnt in the best state of mind, not feeling mentally strong enough for all that opi antagonist stuff, which is kind of like bupe, but there's no relief it just throws you into w/ds, even if it may cut the time of kratom w/ds and feeling shit down to 2 weeks rather than a month or more. The plan now is to either very gradually taper down very low on kratom, or use stem and vein instead if i have an upturn in my mood, then after im off kratom completely, whether by gradual taper or stem and vein, or mixture of the 2, I'll use codeine for 2 weeks to end the taper, and that will override and minimise the final 2 weeeks of the kratom w/ds which can easily last a month, psycholigically and physically.
The w/ds of 2 weeks of codeine will be a peace of piss compared to kratom, physically the kratom w/ds arent that bad, but psycholigically they are a nightmare, at least they are for me, at least one month of depression is to be expected. The days last forever and nothing is enjoyable, Codeine wd/s will be all over in 4 days cos its short lasting and i wont have had a long term habit with codeine. There's no chance that i'll get addicted to codeine as it does FA for me, doesnt get me high atall, so it will be perfect for ending a taper off kratom. So i sort of have at least 2 or 3 different plans for the kratom, its just putting it into action.
I'll have to do it sometime before or after the ban, there's a limit to how much i can afford to stockpile, although the prices are getting cheaper by the day, the vendors are knocking a tenner off many 250gram bags to shift their stock before the ban presumably. If it ends up almost a giveaway like it did with the 2nd generation cannabinoids, when 50g of powder was like £5 or something, it was crazily cheap, virtually a give away. The same thing may happen with kratom with any luck, i will have to keep checking the sites daily.
I can see myself switching straight to DHC tbh the way i feel atm, allthough i may feel more up to it some time before the ban in april. Same goes for benzos there's a limit to how much i can stockpile, trying to stick to 8.5 mg max dayly dose of pyraz and diclaz combined, and reduce further, but its hard cos the 6.5mg bedtime dose i cant even feel it and it doesnt send me to sleep. I know if i do stick to it my tolerance will eventually catch up. But it seems to be taking a fucking long time for that to happen.
Everything's a bit fucked up atm, im not ready for this ban, with 2 addictions to quit, i dont even know which one to tackle first, though ive gathered it makes sense to quit kratom first, as benzos will help out greatly for doing that. Ive been boshing loads of drowsy anti histamines and going crazy for pregabalin, which will still be available post ban.
Mods if you feel this post belongs in another thread feel free to move it (not that you need my permission) but can we see if this thread takes off, with other people with similar concerns, or perhaps anyone with some advice to offer.
At the moment i dont have much confidence that i can quit kratom and benzos, i still love getting high so much, im not sure that i can do it, maybe a very gradual taper on the kratom will be the way to go. Im currently taking 40-50g a day over several doses, 10g at at time. I tried stem and vein this week, but i couldnt handle it, I wasnt in the best state of mind, not feeling mentally strong enough for all that opi antagonist stuff, which is kind of like bupe, but there's no relief it just throws you into w/ds, even if it may cut the time of kratom w/ds and feeling shit down to 2 weeks rather than a month or more. The plan now is to either very gradually taper down very low on kratom, or use stem and vein instead if i have an upturn in my mood, then after im off kratom completely, whether by gradual taper or stem and vein, or mixture of the 2, I'll use codeine for 2 weeks to end the taper, and that will override and minimise the final 2 weeeks of the kratom w/ds which can easily last a month, psycholigically and physically.
The w/ds of 2 weeks of codeine will be a peace of piss compared to kratom, physically the kratom w/ds arent that bad, but psycholigically they are a nightmare, at least they are for me, at least one month of depression is to be expected. The days last forever and nothing is enjoyable, Codeine wd/s will be all over in 4 days cos its short lasting and i wont have had a long term habit with codeine. There's no chance that i'll get addicted to codeine as it does FA for me, doesnt get me high atall, so it will be perfect for ending a taper off kratom. So i sort of have at least 2 or 3 different plans for the kratom, its just putting it into action.
I'll have to do it sometime before or after the ban, there's a limit to how much i can afford to stockpile, although the prices are getting cheaper by the day, the vendors are knocking a tenner off many 250gram bags to shift their stock before the ban presumably. If it ends up almost a giveaway like it did with the 2nd generation cannabinoids, when 50g of powder was like £5 or something, it was crazily cheap, virtually a give away. The same thing may happen with kratom with any luck, i will have to keep checking the sites daily.
I can see myself switching straight to DHC tbh the way i feel atm, allthough i may feel more up to it some time before the ban in april. Same goes for benzos there's a limit to how much i can stockpile, trying to stick to 8.5 mg max dayly dose of pyraz and diclaz combined, and reduce further, but its hard cos the 6.5mg bedtime dose i cant even feel it and it doesnt send me to sleep. I know if i do stick to it my tolerance will eventually catch up. But it seems to be taking a fucking long time for that to happen.
Everything's a bit fucked up atm, im not ready for this ban, with 2 addictions to quit, i dont even know which one to tackle first, though ive gathered it makes sense to quit kratom first, as benzos will help out greatly for doing that. Ive been boshing loads of drowsy anti histamines and going crazy for pregabalin, which will still be available post ban.
Mods if you feel this post belongs in another thread feel free to move it (not that you need my permission) but can we see if this thread takes off, with other people with similar concerns, or perhaps anyone with some advice to offer.
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