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The Big & Dandy 1P-LSD Thread, Volume 1

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Yeah I've experienced the leg twitches several times on the come-up, regardless of what temperature it is. I thought it might have just been a thing unique to me or something. It's never normally much of a problem, as it subsides in like 5-10 minutes for me.
 
So this leg shaking thing , is it like electric through your legs or just them moving . If it's the latter I experience that on normal LSD so it could be down to the purity of the compound , but then again I've limited LSD experience . Could this be a possible result of 1p's ease to pass bbb (and who's to say it can't pass into all regions of the body more easily than LSD , maybe if LSD passed through the same barriers as easily as 1p then leg shaking may occur
 
I've experienced leg tremors on LSD as well as AL-LAD. I've only ever tripped on 1P-LSD once, no leg shaking occurred. I really don't think that 1P-LSD has any special propensity for giving your legs the trembles. It's a lysergamide thing, at the very least. If not psychs in general.

While I'm at it, I'll also add that in my opinion, tremors experienced while tripping are a psycho-somatic thing of sorts. As we go through our lives, we accumulate quite a lot of tension and strife in our unconscious. Things like pent-up frustrations, self-image issues, various fears, residues of conflicts with other people or other ugly situations that we get involved in - all of this stuff is stored in the fabric of our bodies.

A psychedelic experience represents an opening, and these things want out. Sometimes, this can happen in a quite dramatic fashion, especially if you don't do anything about this issue in your day-to-day life - what I mean by that is practicing techniques that allow you to release these tensions while you are perfectly sober (at least from the chemical standpoint).


I'll also preemptively counter my own argument and say that all of the above is bullshit, and it's really just receptors being slapped around by the chemical, sending out electrical impulses like mischievous imps, activating muscles willy-nilly, making us shake like rag dolls in the hands of a petulant child.
 
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I havent got them on 1p-lsd yet but with amt i had to actually hold my leg down to stop it shaking
 
weirdling said:
While I'm at it, I'll also add that in my opinion, tremors experienced while tripping are a psycho-somatic thing of sorts. As we go through our lives, we accumulate quite a lot of tension and strife in our unconscious. Things like pent-up frustrations, self-image issues, various fears, residues of conflicts with other people or other ugly situations that we get involved in - all of this stuff is stored in the fabric of our bodies.

A psychedelic experience represents an opening, and these things want out. Sometimes, this can happen in a quite dramatic fashion, especially if you don't do anything about this issue in your day-to-day life - what I mean by that is practicing techniques that allow you to release these tensions while you are perfectly sober (at least from the chemical standpoint).
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I actuallly agree with this. Or at least it is consistent with my experience. Once I dosed 4-HO-MiPT after a particularly stressful week, and I found my entire body to be shaking uncontrollably, and it was a rather low dose (13 mg ). I think the somatization of tension and stress is a very real thing, and it's not crazy to think that in psychedelically induced states where the subconscious is a lot freer than in sober life they kind of manifest themselves.
 
weirdling said:
I've experienced leg tremors on LSD as well as AL-LAD. I've only ever tripped on 1P-LSD once, no leg shaking occurred. I really don't think that 1P-LSD has any special propensity for giving your legs the trembles. It's a lysergamide thing, at the very least. If not psychs in general.

While I'm at it, I'll also add that in my opinion, tremors experienced while tripping are a psycho-somatic thing of sorts. As we go through our lives, we accumulate quite a lot of tension and strife in our unconscious. Things like pent-up frustrations, self-image issues, various fears, residues of conflicts with other people or other ugly situations that we get involved in - all of this stuff is stored in the fabric of our bodies.

A psychedelic experience represents an opening, and these things want out. Sometimes, this can happen in a quite dramatic fashion, especially if you don't do anything about this issue in your day-to-day life - what I mean by that is practicing techniques that allow you to release these tensions while you are perfectly sober (at least from the chemical standpoint).


I'll also preemptively counter my own argument and say that all of the above is bullshit, and it's really just receptors being slapped around by the chemical, sending out electrical impulses like mischievous imps, activating muscles willy-nilly, making us shake like rag dolls in the hands of a petulant child.
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OMG are you me? Cause this is basically what I was going to write on this issue.

I feel like when you are coming up, you feel fingers in the body of water that is you mind- ripples in the water that find their way to you extremities.

Usually that water is inviolate, but now things are changing, something different from day to day life is taking shape...

An opportunity for change and rebirth is here, ring the bells, strum the chords!

I do believe it is a lysergamide thing, and I believe it has less to do with actual direct stimulation of nerve endings or whatever is physically causing your legs to twitch, rather than causing a mental change that in turn starts this process.
 
I chalk my leg tremors to perhaps unfamiliarity with lysergamides (compared to mushrooms), my air conditioning set to 60F, my existing in the basement (coolest part of the house. hunger....or just the chemical itself. The tremoring is only when lie down (not when I sit or stand). It could be a relaxation thing or letting go.

Part of it might also be just learning how to trip on lyrsergamides; I'm having to learn how to deal with the stimulation that I never had (at all) to on mushrooms. I find myself much more 'antsy' on 1p=LSD than with shrooms (can't really nap or sit still/calmly watch a movie).

It's still not as bad as the electric leg jerks with 4-HO-DiPT though.

Tom
 
I get muscle tremors on just about any psychedelic, but on 1P-LSD it wasn't as bad as some things I've tried (DPT and 4-HO-DiPT in particular).
 
consumed 150 ug off this substance ... music was amazing but its not lsd it doesnt even compare it has no spiritual gene or way to even contact the other side its pain full to the stomach at the end of the experience and its pretty boring and bland visuals took 1.30 to kick in an didnt get past level 2 i was hugely disopointed in this compound if you want to lose your mind contact god or aliens then lsd if u wanna sit an listen to music with a few waves then this is the way for you
 
.... will say this though i worked out allot on this compound and it helped alloooott it made me stronger an more compelled to lift and i did way more than i ever can tonight than any other time i work out so might be good to eat one of these before a gym shesh
 
Amttripreporter, many people on this thread have reported amazing experiences on just 100 mics, so it's a personal thing and sensitivity to psychedelics in general. Spirituality is something within you, not in the compound.
 
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consumed 150 ug off this substance ... music was amazing but its not lsd it doesnt even compare it has no spiritual gene or way to even contact the other side its pain full to the stomach at the end of the experience and its pretty boring and bland visuals took 1.30 to kick in an didnt get past level 2 i was hugely disopointed in this compound if you want to lose your mind contact god or aliens then lsd if u wanna sit an listen to music with a few waves then this is the way for you
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You missed off a ymmv there ;) how are you so sure you wouldn't 'meet god' with a higher dose (or a different set/setting)? Have you never had dissappointing trips off lsd when set/setting/dose wasn't right? (i have)
 
Taken from The Psychedelic Experience Based on The Tibetan Book of the Dead:

If the subject is prepared to diagnose the symptoms of ego loss, he needs no outside help at this point. Not only should the person about to give up his ego be able to diagnose the symptoms as they come, one by one, but he should also be able to recognize the Clear Light without being set face to face with it by another person. If the person fails to recognize and accept the onset of ego loss, he may complain of strange bodily symptoms. This shows that he has not reached a liberated state. Then the guide or friend should explain the symptoms as indicating the onset of ego loss. Here is a list of commonly reported physical sensations:

  1. Bodily pressure, which the Tibetans call earth-sinking-into-water;
  2. Clammy coldness, followed by feverish heat, which the Tibetans call water-sinking-into-fire;
  3. Body disintegrating or blown to atoms, called fire-sinking-into-air;
  4. Pressure on head and ears, which Americans call rocket-launching-into- space;
  5. Tingling in extremities;
  6. Feelings of body melting or flowing as if wax;
  7. Nausea;
  8. Trembling or shaking, beginning in pelvic regions and spreading up torso.
These physical reactions should be recognized as signs heralding transcendence. Avoid treating them as symptoms of illness, accept them, merge with them, enjoy them.
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lsd iv been getting has been fine note I always take 300/400 ug maybe u need to break away from drugs ... btw I noticed that not smoking weed everyday helps tolerance in all other substances I believe it's due to rem sleep you can get when sober ...
 
I took 100 ug 1p-LSD for the 5th time ib Saturday, August 1st. Just for reference, here are the other dates/doses.

July 3rd 25 ug
July 10th 75 ug
July 17th 100 ug
July 24th 100 ug
Augusr 1rst 100 ug

There were 8 days between my 4th and 5th trips, not 7 days - which would be normal for me. First time this substance was used with MJ. First alerts now at 25-40ish minutes, not 10-20 like first two times. Very smooth come up. Restless legs, twitching and sense of urgency completely wiped away by the MJ. Minor upset stomach which only lasted until I was peaking.

Like before, hunger doesn't seem to be affected, nor thirst. It was a very peaceful trip, the first time I felt it being similar to mushrooms in any sense (peaceful, relaxed, mildly euphoric). CEV's were still blurry and muddled. OEV's were prominently curling words and growing vines superimposed on everything. I spent a lot of the time trying to read the words. Colour shifting and light sensitivity were both pronounced, as were edge effects and morphing/melting of surfaces. Able to watch 2 movies and stored up video, Sleep was not an issue.

It didn't seem stronger or weaker than before; just different, probably because of the MJ. First time with a next day afterglow. No hangover noted. Attention span non existent. Coordination pretty bad.

Tom
 
I tried 1p-LSD. I took 225ug along with my sig other who had their first psychedelic experience ever, also on 225ug. In my opinion, this stuff is not LSD, nor even close. I should note that my little blotters were mailed to me in January so the possibility of them being degraded is a potential. Still, I did reach a full +++.

Some of the major differences from LSD are the speed of development...it took a good three hours to really begin peaking...I normally am fully into an LSD experience at the 2nd hour. It was also shorter than LSD. We took it at 6:45 and were both fast asleep at 2:00am.

There was a lot of body noise (mild nausea, drunkenness, heavy limbs) but all in all it was an enjoyable and interesting psychedelic.

My partner had moments of complete breakdown of reality, some confusion during the peak but all in all they very much enjoyed their trip too.

For me, the night was about watching my partner and making sure they were safe and having a good time. I was in familiar territory the entire time, so I had no revolutionary experiences or sensations.

I'm not sure I'd do it again if I had access to LSD but I still found it a great experience and I am grateful to the person who gifted it to us.
 
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Morninggloryseed did you mean to say you tried 1P-LSD or were you actually meaning to say LSP?
 
I thought they were synonymous. 1-Propionyl-LSD (1P-LSD) = LSP. No?

Edit: my bad. LSP is Lysergic acid 3-pentyl amide. I changed my text to reflect the correct term.

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Morninggloryseed did you mean to say you tried 1P-LSD or were you actually meaning to say LSP?
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Yeah, MGS -- long time no see! All is right again. :)

A friend of mine I'd gifted 200ug of 1P-LSD to (who finally had an opportunity to try it over the weekend) said that he never really took off with the substance. I'm convinced that its action is highly variable depending on the metabolism of the person ingesting it.
 
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