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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

Englandgz situation has made me hate doctors even more than I did: and I don't mean surgeons, nurses, paramedics or any other medical professionals that do the 'real' work, just those stuck up cunts that think they know everything and treat you like shit off their shoe (then hastily consult their manual or the internet for a snap diagnosis which is never wrong!!) Surely healthcare is healthcare - it shouldn't depend upon the personality and misconceptions of the individual doctor. BTW, every GP I have ever known in real life has been a privileged know it all wanker. If that offends anyone, I couldn't really give a fuck. Englandgz, we're all here for ya mate!
 
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Thank you mate it means a lot..

She was just awful from day one...maybe she didn't like me or what I do for a living or whatever but has made it her full time mission to end my career...

Its 'in the public interest' you see.....bollocks..

Incidentally the other doctor at the surgery...the one she says agrees with her is the one that 'accidentally' prescribed me ddouble the dose I should have had of fent patches (300mcg a hour patches changed ever 48 hours) for 8weeks without realising.... That could have killed someone who didn't realise it was a mistake. . I've never mentioned that before but if she fucks me over then I'm seeking legal advice cos yes I know mistakes happen but with something like fent that is inexcusable.

Thanks for the kind words mate...really appreciated but my life is disintegrating around me and I don't know if I can cooe.
 
Try and hold on mate - things will get better once you start at the oncology dept (assume you must have been?) they ought to be able to sort out pk's. And yes i agree with Fubar - most doc's are lazy cunts who know less about any conditions i have had in the past than me - like the doc who prescibed lofexadine and told me to take as many as i needed - i took 5 1st time and half my body went numb probably due to v v low BP.
Keep posting and / or staying in touch with us on BL via Pm - the only other thing I can sugest is do what i do and go private, costs me 125 a month inc script but i get treated with respect and have facinating chats on addiction
 
yep - but i only get 168 phy tabs and 21 blues - even so the phy tabs are only 10p each same as the blues (got a good chemist who only charges noraml rates for privae scripts)
 
Fucking hell there is currently so much choice of very nice RC benzos that im really struggling to decide which ones to get, and this is not even including the half dozen or more ive yet to even try. I dont think there's ever been so many RC benzos to choose from before, especially with a lot of them being very good.

The prices seem to have come down a lot for flubro, so i'll probably get some of them, also some more clonazolams. The Meclonalams didnt quite hit the spot as nicley this time as they did on the first go. (I guess its not just Heroin that applies to in trying to recapture that special first high, but never quite recapturing it). But they're still pretty nice, a really heavy headed, wonky but good effect, if any other benzo heads knows what i mean. They're still quite pricey unfortunately.
 
Just seen a source for meclonazepam powder at very good prices compared to the pellets, im so tempted, but know it would be a very bad idea. I think MDB would be showing his dark side again if he ordered a gram of that, and no thats not a euphemism or a racist comment. :p And im already talking about myself in the 3rd person, so im acting oddly enough even without adding vast amounts of heavy duty zonkoid benzo powders to the mix.
 
Shit englandgz, this spinal stuff is news to me :( I'm sure you're not short of inboxs to message, you know where I am anyway..

Big <3
 
Got these through the post today

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They're from a new source so I just wanted a tester order of a couple of boxes before I went in for anything big. Had been recommended him by a friend and they seem to be the real deal.

Much better than the dribs and drabs of MSJ'S I've been getting through!

Teva being my second favourite diazepam brand after legit M&A (WW D-10) NHS blister pack blues. I just love the tasteabd texture of them and they're really good. Seen a lot of the 2mg M&A's floating about recently, not so much the 10mg's.

Getting them at a good price too and I seem to have made a good contact in this lad he can get his hands on morphine ampoules which I'd like to try.

I'm just massively relieved to have a Valium contact again after not having one for over a year and having to go through multiple people to try and get them and that's always a pain in the arsed because communication always breaks down somewhere and I never seemed to actually vet anything.

So yeah. I'm on 80mg of diazepam (flub fucked my tolerance) and today is a good day!
 
I've noted a huge amount of supposedly pharmaceutical, actavis and teva diazepam 10mgs being sold, I find it hard to belive they are legit although the packs, pills and blisters all look good.

I've only had a few and given my past usage I'm not a good judge but it seemed the few little blue MSJs I had were as good of not better ? In the past it seemed rare to find non illicit Diazepam in the UK, MSJs and various PK sourced tablets seemed common place.

Anyone else tried these 'legit' tablets ?
 
razdaddy said:
I've tried just about every benzodiazpeine at some time in my life. The best is clonazepam. It's very very strong and it doesn't screw your head up. I've heard its the only benzo that has actually been indicated for long term anxiety. Second strongest I found to be bromazepam. Lorazepam is like bromazepam but without the sedative effect and at least as hard t withdraw from..Valium makes you agitated and anxious and its not so strong.Nitrazepam is strong but it makes you hungry. Oxazepam is considered weak but I quite like it. Librium is very very weak and xanax is strong but utter hell to withdraw from. Stay away. The z drugs (zopiclone and zolpidem) are not quite as difficult to withdraw from. Zopiclone tastes terrible and you can;t get rid of the taste becsuse its secreted in your saliva. Zolpidem is strong for a while I guess. Versed (midazolam) is a bit of a disappointment compared with my expectations. Don't even think of going anywhere near triazolam. The half life is so short and potency strong that you suffer withdrawal inbetween individual doses! They say nimetzazepam which is available in some south east countries is very strong but I've never had. If you have to go long term, go for klonopin (clonazepam). t will be hard to withdraw from because its very very high potency so you'll prob. have to do a valium conversion but its strong, sensible (ie. doesn't screw your head up) and keeps working longer than the others.Oh.. and a word about temazepam. I know it's very highly abused. Don't know why. It's not so strong. Take more than two and you can get a headache (and it's toxic!)Doesn't do much for muscle relaxant
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What about any of the RC benzos? Or do you strictly stick to the proper pharmaceutical ones?

There's recently been a whole lot of pretty good ones put on the market over the last month or so. Ive yet to try all of them. But Flubromazepam, thats been around a while, everyone who tries it seems to like it, Nifoxipam and Meclonazepam are pretty new, and make an interesting change to the diclazepam and pyrazolam i was on before. Clonazolam was very nice too. There's also Flubromazolam which seems very popular, ive not tried it yet but its meant to be very strong. Flubromazepam and Meclonaepam are pretty strong too. There's also Deschloroetizolam which i dont see the point of atall, its has a much shorter duration than the original etiz and is also much weaker. There have been some shit RC benzos, or rather the pellets the vendors make have beeen shit, but there are some good RC benzos available atm.
 
Just quickly, what would you all say is the best benzo (prescription or RC) for basically just knocking you out for a decent sleep after a sesh. Would be helpful to have some input as I'm getting some crystal meth in the next few days probably and the only shit that helps me sleep on that is smack and yeah, trying to keep away from that.

From the couple of times I've tried them either xanax or clonazepam seem to be the most knockout-y but zopiclone does quite a lot for me too (and I've had more experience with it) so ahh, don't know. Basically I guess is it worth paying the price for xanax or will I be fine on clonaz/zops? I've also got diclaz and a few etiz left but they don't really put a dent in extreme stim wakefulness unless I take enough to leave me groggy the next day so yeah.
 
You need to look to pick one with a short / medium half life and with sedation as its primary effect over anxiolosis.

Temazepam is probably your best bet if you have access to pharms.

Clonitrazolam (clonazolam) is your only real option if your stuck with RC's, it also has a medium duration of action, and is much more sedating than clonazepam, its pharmaceutical cousin. The other strong, sedating rc's (specifically the flubros) have extremely long durations of action, and will leave you splattered for 18 hours +
 
I actually quite rate nifoxipam for getting to sleep. They're fast acting and have a short half life. What little grogginess remains the next day is easily sorted with s strong coffee. The only downside is they make your farts smell evil...
 
rugged butthole said:
Right I'm fully into my benzo taper from a pretty disgusting 300-500mg Diaz equiv habit a day. I'm in treatment for this and the doc said my taper is excellent but won't prescribe more than 30mg diazepam a day, maybe 50 if I prove myself responsible. I'm down to 7mg diclaz a day at the moment, split in 3. Feel fine :)

Just received hopefully the last 250mg.

If one had access to most solvents through work, what would be the best for making blotter paper to carry the doses round easiest? I'd imagine chloroform would be best.

Does anyone have any actual data?

Here's a few, 10mg\ml RT in ethanol absolute, 30mg\ml DMSO.

What about IPA? Surely some of you guys have crammed it until saturation? Diethyl ether? Apparently diazepam is only sparingly soluble in it though.

Light naphtha? Some numbers would be good to hear. I'd love to experiment myself but I just want them finished so I can be free once again.

Main contenders are IPA and ether so far, rather avoid ether due to the obvious and chloroform toxicity
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Is this still an issue for you RB? I would recommend mono propylene glycol, it would be the perfect solution imo, far safer than solvents, cheap as chips, and easily available on internet auction sites. I might even try this myself as the powders are so much cheaper than the pills, plus more conistent on the dosage as id make damn sure it was by using a gradated 2ml oral syringe. Yoy may need to warm the PG soltion slightly to improve the absorptoin of the powder.
 
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Just adding my suggestion that Flubromazolam, Nifoxipam and Clonazolam are the RC #3.

Triazolam, Flunitrazepam, Alprazolam, Nitrazepam, Temazepam will all help if pharms are available - the duration is what matters, Xanax will KO you for an hour or two meaning redoses and zero actual sleep.
 
Anyone with zero tolerance to benzos find that 0.5mg of Clonazolam is a bit much? Seriously unsteady on my feet atm.

Guess I'll start halving them in future (rather than build up enough of tolerance to bosh as many as possible and moon walk away from my troubles)
 
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Anyone with zero tolerance to benzos find that 0.5mg of Clonazolam is a bit much? Seriously unsteady on my feet atm.

Guess I'll start halving them in future (rather than build up enough of tolerance to bosh as many as possible and moon walk away from my troubles)
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I thought that when I had my first one last week, these are strong, but i've just had a kosher 1mg Clonazepam and its a hell of a lot stronger.
 
My friend has a connect for fake blistered activis. I have a strip, and there legit, as legit. I can't take diaz all the time, or else I turn into a Benzo munching prick. My daily benzo is diclazepam. I don't feel it, compared to if I had a diaz. Diclazepam kinda holds me, without the urge to gobble more. Ill hopefully keep having 4mg a day of them, Ive kinda realised Im going to be taking Benzos every day of my life.
 
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