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[Xorkoth]

Oh and by the way... if you want to have vivid dreams, try taking some galantamine before bed, 4 or 8mg. It's sold as a dream aid supplement. I took 8mg before bed Saturday night, while camping, and holy fuck, did it give me intense dreams. I think I'm going to write a trip report about it, it was really crazy. The first time I slept, I had a dream that I was partying and carousing in celebration, and my friend Adam showed up and gave me his benzo prescription. I took a couple and blacked out (in the dream). When I came to I was dealing with angry parents, friends and cops but I had no idea what happened. Then I woke up, and it had been so vivid, much more vivid than my dreams usually are.

I went back to sleep and woke up a total of 4 or 5 more times, and each time I feel asleep I immediately went back to the same situation, except this time, I was conscious in my body while all the shit went down, except I had no control over myself still. All this stuff happened, I stole some stuff, drove my car, I can't really remember it all now because I didn't write it down but it was all so clear at the time and after I woke up for a while. Once I even woke up in the dream, thinking it had been a dream, and then realized it wasn't. It was actually very stressful and somewhat disturbing... I finally woke up at like 8am and was so glad it had all been a strange series of intense dreams. I felt great though, very well rested despite waking up numerous times, and ready to take on the day, which was such a better situation... instead of blackout cop trouble, I was in a beautiful spot with a whole day of outdoor adventure ahead.

But yeah, galantamine... I've tried calea and other sleep herbs, and melatonin, but this was many times more powerful than those.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Manedogs

 

[xammy]

what are some Swedish brands of Snus? i've tried one of the american kinds. i think it was Camel or Marlboro brand. its definitely the only form of oral tobacco that i enjoy. i don't get it too often, though.

There are so many of them man.. Ettan, General, Götebörg Rape, Röda Lacket, Offroad. Dozens of different brands

 

[Xorkoth]

The Camel snus here says Swedish snus but it's not any of those brands.

How does snus differ from dip? I mean I know it's in a pouch, is that the only difference?

 

[xammy]

It's not only in pouch, I think loose snus(?) is as popular as pouch snus. I prefer pouch tho because its more practical..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus

 

[coelophysis]

Swedish Snus is supposed to have never been linked to any disease correct?

 

[pharmakos]

The Camel snus here says Swedish snus but it's not any of those brands.

How does snus differ from dip? I mean I know it's in a pouch, is that the only difference?

well, you put the pouches in your upper lip, and supposedly you don't have to spit like you do with regular chewing tobacco.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Originally I was planning on tripping on LSD all night over the weekend. I'm really glad I waited till this morning, because WOW, the weather was absolutely perfect!! (Sorry, I can't help myself with the heart icons whilst tripping!)

I had some good insights while meditating in the woods, I think. I wanted to find out who "I" really was, so I tried to clear my mind of any ideas of myself, so that underneath all my thoughts, I could find a more intuitive, primal sense of self. Like a sixth sense, beside vision, hearing, etc. But I quickly came to the conclusion that there was absolutely nothing to be found. My entire "sense of self" is simply an idea that I have about who I am.

And who am I? I am my thoughts. What are my thoughts? My thoughts are a function of my brain. My brain is a function of the earth, and the earth is a function of the universe. Therefore, I am continuous with the entire universe.

I think this is what Siddhartha Gautama was hinting at.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

The Camel snus here says Swedish snus but it's not any of those brands.

How does snus differ from dip? I mean I know it's in a pouch, is that the only difference?

Snus is not fire cured like dip, and has a lower tobacco specific nitrosamine content. It doesn't seem to increase the risk of oral cancer, but that doesn't mean it's not still carcinogenic.

What sort of tobacco did you use? I just imagine crumbling a cigarette into a nice cuppa and the mind quails

Yeah, I'd do like 1/3 of a cigarette mixed in with the tea leaves (I usually use loose leaf teas so it all goes in the tea ball), it's got a harsh flavor, I've also used cigar tobacco.

NKB, i was listening to this song the other day and for some reason you popped into my head.

Interesting.

 

[solistus]

Finally almost recuperated from a week of Deadhead craziness here in Chicago... Between Beats Antique and the Dead, I think I saw more tripping/rolling people in the last week than in the entire rest of my life I'm glad I decided to drop a couple tabs of blotter for the Dead show. You know how sometimes it's hard to decide what the ideal drug is for a given show? For this one, there was no question.

It was fucking epic. Amazing energy from the crowd, the band sounded great, and the special effects were phenomenal - everything from scrolling messages on overhead blimps to trippy lighting effects and visuals on the various huge high def displays around the stadium to these tripping drone things that flew around lighting up and shit to THE FUCKING FIREWORKS SHOW OMG MIND = ASPLODE!

The pre-show scene outside the nearby hotel was pretty epic, too - a little taste of the (in)famous Dead show parking lot scene Mad people smoking each other up and buying/selling/trading all sorts of psychedelics and THC products, everyone from local hippies to middle-aged yuppie Deadheads who flew in for one last weekend of glory. We met a socialist activist who was there for a workers' conference and dropped by to find some bud for the road, and three different people asked if I needed any doses.

And as a bonus: I wasn't sure if this blotter I've held onto for around a year now was still potent - it's been at room temperature and not super carefully handled (in foil, in a plastic bag w/ desiccant packets, in a glass jar, which was usually put away but sometimes left out and/or open) - but two tabs got the job done pretty well for a crowded concert dose. The peak during the Dead set got pretty intense, but not overwhelmingly so, and the visual distortions complemented the visual effects perfectly (like I said, there was no question which drug that show was meant to be experienced on ; ). I'll probably try ~4 tabs next time I want to have an intense trip at home or a smaller social gathering, but this blotter is still plenty potent. Gotta love GDF fluff ^^

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

And who am I? I am my thoughts. What are my thoughts? My thoughts are a function of my brain. My brain is a function of the earth, and the earth is a function of the universe. Therefore, I am continuous with the entire universe.

So you got to enjoy the cosmic oneness? That's always fun.

I am my thoughts.

That paints a pretty grim picture for people suffering from mental illness, they take time to teach you the opposite in the hospital. And I must ask whether you meant that you identify your Self exclusively with your thoughts, or that it is only one of the aggregate of properties that make up a composite or illusory Self?

But yeah, galantamine... I've tried calea and other sleep herbs, and melatonin, but this was many times more powerful than those.

Sounds very interesting. I shall have to look into it. I always like to hear people relate their dreams too, so thanks for that.

 

[Help?!?!]

UAhhhh a mixed up couple days of insanity of the best kind! I fucking hate that they made 2c-E illegal! It's one of those chemicals, that if your a serious psychonaut and 2c-E jives with you, then you'll have some stashed away always! I only have like 20ish mgs left of 2c-E/P but I was totally tempted to throw some in the mix in tiny amounts. I mean I'll still have enough for a strong trip but in some small way I was disappointed because I wanted to wait until everything was perfect and drop like 20ishmgs of 2c-E and 4-10 mgs of 2c-P but I knew I'd have to adjust it just a smidge. Man when the E/P(really nice to use rectal/IM((if your already into that!!))IMO), it hits you in small waves that crescendo into a large wall that you just wash in to you. I just couldn't help but smile foolishly because the 2c-E made me giddy. Of course I listened to great music as I stared at the sky and just wondering "Well is this it or what bra?!?" or "it's beautiful the way the world goes round....".

NKB brings up a good point though. I know what he's talking about like how they teach you to be aware of your thoughts always but your thoughts are not you and don't make you what you are in even rudimentary sort of view. I think that's important reconignize your thoughts but to be able to stand away indepently from them while you decipher them or toss them into the "spam" folder in my mind. I think SG would have easily been able to dissociate from his thoughts not reconignizing the unneeded.

Man this combo has me spun. Pregabalin is so weird. It combines really nicely with psychedelics but the weird thing is it removes your aniexty so your extremely relaxed but if in itself has weird trippy feeling that seems to make trips even more surreal than normal. In a way it reminds of zolpidem, the way it puts you in this tranquilized dreamy state but you don't get any hallcinations though. Pretty trippy in its own right at high doses.

Edit: When I was in jail it was like a trippy dream. People were getting high on everything! We would get these recite papers that were perfect to roll up cigs and js. The guys next to me were snorting heroin, another guy had subxone and a rig he was using to give people nasal doses of sub, and shot them up for himself. The fuckng craziest thing was, one day this guy came in, my guy knew him from the street so he was talking to him because they used to trip together back in the day. Well turns out he had six WoW's hidden on him he didn't know what to do with them. My guy took three and a couple other people bought out the hits. My guy was fuckinggg tripping, massive pupils. He dosed after morning wake up call before breakfast. He just kept staring at the food moving it around like he couldn't contemplate where to start. He got stuck in the bathroom staring into the mirrors. He was also just sitting on his bunk telling me how crazy my bunk looked right now. He had some fucked conversations with the COs but they all liked him so they just ignored it. I almost wanted to buy a hit just for experiment sake. I imagine tripping in jaiis....an odd unique experience to say the least.

Oh,I was also a boy scout as well. Super useful. Teaches you how to survive outdoors and tips on how to do that. I honestly use what I learned from it pretty often. My childhood best friend is an Eagle Scout.

 

[swilow]

Originally I was planning on tripping on LSD all night over the weekend. I'm really glad I waited till this morning, because WOW, the weather was absolutely perfect!! (Sorry, I can't help myself with the heart icons whilst tripping!)

I had some good insights while meditating in the woods, I think. I wanted to find out who "I" really was, so I tried to clear my mind of any ideas of myself, so that underneath all my thoughts, I could find a more intuitive, primal sense of self. Like a sixth sense, beside vision, hearing, etc. But I quickly came to the conclusion that there was absolutely nothing to be found. My entire "sense of self" is simply an idea that I have about who I am.

And who am I? I am my thoughts. What are my thoughts? My thoughts are a function of my brain. My brain is a function of the earth, and the earth is a function of the universe. Therefore, I am continuous with the entire universe.

I think this is what Siddhartha Gautama was hinting at.

Sounds like an awesome and meaningful time TAC Good one...

Snus is not fire cured like dip, and has a lower tobacco specific nitrosamine content. It doesn't seem to increase the risk of oral cancer, but that doesn't mean it's not still carcinogenic.

I've wondered if one of the primary reasons most tobacco is so carcinogenic is how it is cured...

Yeah, I'd do like 1/3 of a cigarette mixed in with the tea leaves (I usually use loose leaf teas so it all goes in the tea ball), it's got a harsh flavor, I've also used cigar tobacco.

I am curious. I'd almost worry that the nicotine could fuck with my stomach... I had 'wild tobacco' in an ayahuasca preparation and foundit incredibly emetic but crazily euphoric...

 

[Xorkoth]

Oh,I was also a boy scout as well. Super useful. Teaches you how to survive outdoors and tips on how to do that. I honestly use what I learned from it pretty often. My childhood best friend is an Eagle Scout.

Nice, I'm an Eagle Scout myself. Boy Scouts was amazing for me, I loved it, and it definitely helped me become a more capable person. And my boss told me that the thing that tipped my resume over the edge against others was that I put that I'm an Eagle Scout.

 

[pharmakos]

have you guys seen these pictures from Google's Neural Network yet? Google has this image recognition artificial intelligence software, and they decided to see what happens when they run pictures through it backwards and create a feedback loop. the result is INCREDIBLY psychedelic.

good articles on it:

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/snapshots-of-an-ais-psychedelic-dreams
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-googles-neural-networks-look-like-theyre-on-acid

basically what it does is it takes what it thinks it sees, and puts more of it there. sometimes it gets it right, sometimes it gets it wrong. but its always incredibly trippy!

here's a place where you can feed your own images into the neural network. note that since there are so many people doing it and it takes so much computing power, your picture might not be ready for a day: http://psychic-vr-lab.com/deepdream/

sometimes it gets it really wrong, haha:

 

[Yeetbeat]

That last one is just too much, lol

 

[pharmakos]

BTW i posted that from my desktop. now i'm on my phone. note -- if you're on a phone, make sure to zoom in

its weird how sometimes objects pop out of nowhere. like the one with the deer, there's a bunch of extra humans in the processed version.

i really think that this is a decent model for what happens in the brain on large doses of psychedelics.

 

[SeekLight]

I've been seeing this Google mind changes pictures a lot of multiple forums, guess I should play with it. Some of those look pretty accurate as to how something could be seen if trippin/u filtering reality. Wwweeeeeee

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Nice, I'm an Eagle Scout myself. Boy Scouts was amazing for me, I loved it, and it definitely helped me become a more capable person. And my boss told me that the thing that tipped my resume over the edge against others was that I put that I'm an Eagle Scout.

I'm an Eagle Scout too, but I certainly think my troop was a bit more rambunctious than most. I saw my first rated R films in the scouts, first nudey mags, learned curse words, smoked strange plants... Really, I'm amazed we all came out okay.

 

[TheAppleCore]

That paints a pretty grim picture for people suffering from mental illness, they take time to teach you the opposite in the hospital. And I must ask whether you meant that you identify your Self exclusively with your thoughts, or that it is only one of the aggregate of properties that make up a composite or illusory Self?

"I" can have multiple meanings, depending on the context - we can say "I got wet", meaning the physical body got wet. But we can also say "I have strong arms", denoting a separate self that possesses or controls a body. If a person gets an appendage amputated, they still feel that there is some essential self which remains unchanged. In my opinion, this self is equivalent to one's thoughts/intelligence.

In other words, there is no separate, immaterial spirit or soul that exists outside of the physical organism. Or, equivalently, there is no physical organism, outside the spirit / soul. To me, that's a very exciting and liberating concept, but to others I suppose it is frightening.