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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

After dozens of failed ideas, I've found the only true potentiator for Hydro and Oxys

crisler

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Background, I use opiates as they are my favorite recreational substances, I don't smoke weed (hate the effects), I don't do benzos (quit xanax after a 6 month mini habit with a legal prescription, clean since Feb 24th this year, will never do it again because 5 months of usage still gave me nasty withdrawals I hated it). I also don't drink alcohol, do any psychadelics like mushrooms, acid, etc etc though I have tried them all including tons of Research Chems in my college days. These days I don't do any substances but when I choose to relax and enjoy something I do some sort of opiate excluding heroin and codeine syrup (not paying some douchebag 15$ per ounce of a syrup with 60mg ofcodeine per ounce in it lol), though I have tried Hitech red and both qualitest purple and qualitest red codeine syrups.

My tolerance per each has me at 200mg tramadol for desired effects, 50-70mg hydrocodone for desired effects, and 40-50mg of oxycodone for desired effects. I am not addicted nor do I regularly use either of those three things, or anything. The tolerance comes from years of doing them occasionally, like this week I did it twice, the last time before this weekend was some time in april around the 19th, and I wont do opes again until next month some time. (<--True). I have tried a few potentiation experiements the past few times because I notice I now am "chasing the ghost" or whatever the saying is. I can not get the effects I used to, the euphoria sadly is almost non existant now. Sucks but maybe its time to leave it lol. But anyways I used to take 10mg of oxycodone or 10-15mg of hydrocodones and be completely in the clouds, the best highs ever out of any substance I have ever tried. I miss those days and I kind of want to reach those effects again somehow.

For Potentiation I have tried 25mg Benadryl and eventually 50mg Benadryl, the only thing it does is make my eyes heavier and alleviate the subtle itch which I dont mind the itch at all. No potentiation though. I have tried 50mg Hydroxyzine, which is a prescription antihistamine similar to promethazine (I think). Same thing, no potentiation, added to the nod in an annoying way and made my eyes feel dry lol. I did try 1mg xanax with 300mg codeine once, both of those amounts were where my tolerances were when I did that, and that was an amazing night but that is DANGEROUS and I will never do again. It gave me a few scares during the nods I couldn't control around the peak. Xanax did potentiate the euphoria tenfold lol as I never got euphoria from xanax alone and rarely the few times I did codeine (in the form of T3s not syrups). I made my conclusion that xanax, and probably most other benzos as well, definitely potentiate the effects of opiates. But dont do this anyone.

Finally, three days ago I drank White Grapefruit juice about 2 cups or 16oz in the morning at like 9am. I got it that morning from Walmart it was the 100% juice kind not the Ruby Red 30% juice I almost walked out with with the first (also main) ingredient being water lol. I got the 100% juice bottle with eight 8oz servings in it for $3 and change. Drank 2 cups at 9am. That is all I had all morning made sure my stomach was empty and ate 20mg oxycodone half of my usual amount, at 12:15 noon so that I could assume that my effects would last from 1pm until 5pm I always keep up with times. I didn't think it was going to potentiate it much the first 45 minutes but after an hour went by I noticed I was still going up. I got kinda nervous and almost panicked but I kept telling myself its half my usual amount. About 2 hours in Id say, I stopped going up and started peaking and the effects were comparable to what 30-35mg would feel like for me, no exaggeration. The effects also lasted about 6 hours instead of 3-4 and the feeling was exactly what I was looking for, finally. There was something about taking that juice beforehand that I cant find when i research but in my experience the GFJ didnt only make it last longer, it made the effects so much better, everything I wanted them to be, from 20mg lol. I repeated the same thing today, different times. Same exact results. Took my last 2 perc 10s, and Im just now coming down about 5 hours later and the effects were better than I usually got from 40+mg I took the last time I did them.

TL;DR Guys who like opiates, excluding hardcore addicts, if you are looking to try something that will give you bang for your buck and is safe (to an extent, check for interactions with your other meds if you are on something), try Grapefruit juice. 100% juice does not have to be organic and it can say "from concentrate" like mine does. Take it at least 2-3 hours before your opiate so that the juice can digest before your dose. Im not sure of the science but I will tell you that in my experience, half of my dose of desired opiate gave me better effects all around in every aspect, than my normal amount. Have a great day guys. And enjoy yourself, enjoy life, but never let a drug take control of you!
 
I've tried it and didn't notice much of anything but I drank mine 45 minutes before. I'll give it a try next time with a couple hours in between.
 
The grapefruit juice is simple science. What l always found to be the best potentiater for hydros and oxies was simply more hydros or oxies. Better than mixing in other substances IMO.
 
In terms of mixing it with Kratom does it matter if it's WHITE grapefruit juicy or can it be regular grapefruit juice or Ruby red grapefruit juice?

So far I have found both regular and ruby red grapefruit juice to potentiate Kratom but I don't know if some types are better than others.
 
Im positive that it doesn't matter what grapefruit juice it is, as long as its juice and not the watery high fructose corn syrup 30% real juice type preparations. Sorry for confusing you, ruby red is okay just not the preparation at walmart that was that flavor, that particular bottle/brand was bad. As far as kratom goes I do not know how it potentiates as I have never tried kratom with grapefruit juice, or much at all alone. I have done 8 grams of Maeng Da kratom sold in head shops several times and I compare it to a very mild opiate like sensation but not a real opioid like hydrocodone. Im sure it does potentiate kratom though if you say that you definitely notice it. But no the different types of GFJ do not matter one bit just get real GFJ and not flavored water.
 
I love newbie threads that come in with a little novella about their "new discovery." If you only used the search function...

You are not a unique snowflake.
 
I love newbie threads that come in with a little novella about their "new discovery." If you only used the search function...

You are not a unique snowflake.

I didn't mean to come off as if I believed that I discovered this, I am completely aware that this has been tried before I knew it even existed. Lol.. what I AM doing is more so along the lines of backing this potentiation option for those who may have come across this on forums, such as myself, but got mixed reviews and opinions on GFJ as a potentiator. I am trying to let people know who are hesitant on if this one would work, that it does indeed work and should definitely be tried! I hope you understand my point in making this post, its just to help people dude, not to try to look like I am the first person to do something. And trust me anyone who tries this after reading this thread, man, they will not be let down. Thanks!
 
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