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#4 heroin and valium

An anti-histamine is something most commonly used to treat allergies. You can buy them over the counter; I used to use hay fever tablets to stop itching from codeine. I only tried lortadine and cetirizine but found that cetirizine was much more effective.

I would stay away from other anti-histamines such as diphenhydramine, which is used in Nytol, as these can potentiate the effects of opiates which will probably just make things more complicated for you. Besides, it will cost a lot more. You can get a month's supply of cetirizine for a couple of quid. Just make sure you ask for generics or they will maybe try to sell you a branded medicine, which can cost significantly more.

For example: In Boots it's £6.95 for 30 and at the other chemists around here it's only £2.50.
 
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ok thanks man so if I go into boots and literally ask for cetirizine theyll understand what I mean and not ask weird questions haha? Pharmacies daunt me idk why haha.
 
Yeah they'll understand what you mean, but don't let them sell you the Boots brand. They will usually try to sell you that. Ask them for generics. I think they sell Galpharm, which are quite cheap. If they only have the Boots brand, then just go to a dedicated chemists :)

The only question they might ask is if you're on any other medication. They won't suspect the true purpose unless you go in with a note stuck up your nostril :D
 
Don Luigi said:
Yeah they'll understand what you mean, but don't let them sell you the Boots brand. They will usually try to sell you that. Ask them for generics. I think they sell Galpharm, which are quite cheap. If they only have the Boots brand, then just go to a dedicated chemists :)

The only question they might ask is if you're on any other medication. They won't suspect the true purpose unless you go in with a note stuck up your nostril :D
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Hahaha! cheers mate I'll do that then, I just know I'll pronounce it wrong. And lol! I'm more of a straw person myself, saves rolling up a note when too mashed up!
 
If you go in with a note up your nose, they'll think you're a cheap bastard for not buying the Boots brand :o

I wouldn't worry about pronunciation, many people can't pronounce medications with easier names. However, I did find this video:

How to pronounce cetirizine

I can't believe there's actually a video for it haha.
 
haha fuck em! And there's a video for just about anything on the net these days! Cheers though now I won't feel worried about pronouncing it wrong :) *scratch scratch*
 
The danger has nothing to do with whether or not you breathe air with the nitrous. When compressed gasses escape through a small opening they get extremely cold, trying to breathe them in can do quite a bit of damage to your respiratory tract. Get some balloons, it's way safer and also quite a bit more effective :)
 
ponch said:
The danger has nothing to do with whether or not you breathe air with the nitrous. When compressed gasses escape through a small opening they get extremely cold, trying to breathe them in can do quite a bit of damage to your respiratory tract. Get some balloons, it's way safer and also quite a bit more effective :)
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When I first got hold of some whippers way back (91?) we just used a plastic bag and released them inside, we must have had some device for releasing the valve, we didn't even thing of balloons. It was me an a long time tripping partner, really quite enjoyed it on acid as I recall, the rush was something to behold peaking on LSD

I did it a few times on MDMA for a giggle but wasn't overly impressed for me MDMA doesn't need any assistance with the rushing sensation, still the momentary feeling of being spun out was funny with friends, I only ever did this at clubs. I went to free parties up to about 2000 but never saw them there but I understand they are much more popular now to the point of people collecting the canisters of a morning to get the scrap aluminium value !

I'd certainly not try and breath it in from the whipper, it's pressurised liquid FFS. The plastic bag worked just fine....be resourceful like Apollo 13 or summit ;)
 
Aye ..... P * V = n * R * T. That's pressure times volume = number of moles, times a universal constant, times (absolute -- i.e., add 273) temperature.

Now there is still the same amount of gas, and R isn't going anywhere ..... So if the volume gets bigger, the pressure and temperature must get smaller.
 
clord0 said:
haha fuck em! And there's a video for just about anything on the net these days! Cheers though now I won't feel worried about pronouncing it wrong :) *scratch scratch*
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You can also buy it off the shelf at Tesco/Asda. No pharmacy required!
 
acieed_ed said:
I was lying in bed this morning in day 2 of acute heroin WD's when a friend called in unannounced and unplanned with a bag of 'china white' heroin to smoke couldnt be Better timing it was top drawer shit I swallowed 4 x 0.5 clonazepam tabs from my legit script and am feeling rather immaculate atm a nice surprise on a boring Sunday morning B-)
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I thought you couldn't smoke white H? That's #4 right?...
 
'China White' often refers to H mixed with Fentanyl, so he may not mean #4/HCl.

But you're right: the salt of H vapourises very inefficiently, thus the use of freebase/#3.

#4 will chase, but it's a waste in terms of BA. Like snorting brown #3 or swallowing Crack.
 
You can mix caffeine with #4 and it will run - but not that efficiently, and what a waste - better off snorting it.
 
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not to sound like a condescending cunt or anything, but get a hobby, mate. really, every junkie starts out with the best intentions and end up fucked for the rest of their lives. please dont take offence, you just sound savable. just never do heroin again. ever. you're literally a kid with a loaded gun at the minute. ive just been discharged from hospital (smack/benzo's; had to have cpr, naxalone, the lot) and i've got satan kicking the shit out of my ribs and soul. like being dumped by the love of your life, being fired, threatened wth a knife and more, all at the same time!
and the shitty part is, you keep going back. no fun, mate. leave it alone.

the dread, the panic, the vomit, the diarrhoea, it's all to come if you keep fucking with heroin. *wince*
 
That will hopefully hit home mate. Hope you're OK - I've been there myself from smack & benzos - I fuckin 'died' twice and if it wasn't for the quick thinking of my mate and the paramedics I'd be a goner now. I ran into one of the old crew yesterday who told me of at least 5 heads who've died in the last year. It isn't a game...
 
I'm a student who wants to take it occasionally, I always space out my times on it like I said but I heed your point. I better stop trying it soon I guess...
 
clord0 said:
I'm a student who wants to take it occasionally, I always space out my times on it like I said but I heed your point. I better stop trying it soon I guess...
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no time like the present, man! stick to the weed if you wanna chill. i know it feels fantastic, and the appeal to use occasionally is strong. but im deadly serious. youve tried it, obviously liked it, cant you leave it there? is there any achievement to be had in ever doing it again? and althugh that could be said about a lot of drugs, heroin (most opiates really) are an entirely different kettle of fish. it takes a fucking age to realise youve a habit, then youre fucked.

again, dont wanna sound condescending, but i think almost everyone who's fucked with smack would agree. study, go to raves and house parties, sniffing coke/meph/mdma, smoking weed, getting laid. that was the life before i had before i started on opiates and staying in staring at walls and stealing off my parents when the temporary insanity of withdrawals set in.

just my .2 and i hope with all my heart youll remember me as a scaremongering tosser. but if you keep it up, imho, youre fucked. anyway there's always rehab. ;)
 
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