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UK general Election. I could use some advice...

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dhcdavid said:
What the fuck happened?

Anybody else feeling - like me - as though the bottom's dropped out of their world with this outright Tory victory?

I'm speechless with grief.
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If its any help I had my son online this morning talking about cutting himself (he gets disability benefits and was/is seriously concerned about Tory, ahem, cuts). So, no. You're far from alone I think.
 
Thanks for the reply StoneHappyMonday and I'm real sorry to hear your son's taken the election result so badly.

Woe behind anyone with the misfortune to find themselves poor AND in a state of mental ill health in the U.K. these days.......
 
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Can anyone confirm that ALL mental health services are to be axed? :(
If so, that is disgusting.

I have made little secret on BL of my own issues with MH problems, and the massive failures to tackle MH issues on a wider level - is this really happening?
I have spent time in a Psychiatric Unit, run by the NHS, because of my affective moods often resulting in suicidal ideation, behaviour, urges and attempts, and I truly believe such sanctuary to have kept me alive, if not exactly "sane", and initiated my own personal battle against my demons.

If I was to experience another such crisis, what happens then?
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Yeah man, austerity dontcha know.. but I can't imagine there won't be a few institutions left where a stimfreak can rest the ol' head after pumping it full of various experimental uppers, and fentanyl, and entire strips of sleeping pills, plus RC psychedelics and/or dodgy RC dissociatives, washed down with alcohol.
 
That sounds very far fetched to me. It'd be a real hypocrisy considering how, for a time, Cameron and Miliband were basically competing over who cared most about mental health.

Plus, with all this dangerous skunk weed that's floating about, they couldn't possibly cut it. Think of the madness! 8o

Where did you hear this anyway, if you don't mind me asking?

EDIT: Just tried to find out what was in the manifesto and came across this.

Conservative Party outline plans for mental health in its manifesto

The Conservative Party has outlined what it would do to improve services for people with mental ill health, if it were elected to govern at the upcoming general election.

The existing commitment to put mental health services on a par with physical health is reaffirmed, with a promise to go further, including ensuring there are therapists in every part of the country providing treatment for those who need it.

In addition, the manifesto says the Conservatives are increasing funding for mental health care. This is not expanded upon, however. But, in the last budget before Parliament was dissolved, there was a commitment to boost the funding of children’s mental health services by £1.25 billion over the next five years to help develop services.

The manifesto also says that a Conservative government would enforce the new access and waiting time standards for people experiencing mental ill health, including children and young people.

As well as this, a Conservative government would ensure that women have access to mental health support during and after pregnancy, while strengthening the health visiting programme for new mothers.

Elsewhere, the Conservatives pledge to end the practice of using police cells as ‘places of safety’ for those experiencing a mental health crisis by ensuring proper provision of health and community-based places of safety.
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https://www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/conservative-party-manifesto-outlines-plan-mental-health.aspx
 
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lurching said:
Yeah man, austerity dontcha know.. but I can't imagine there won't be a few institutions left where a stimfreak can rest the ol' head after pumping it full of various experimental uppers, and fentanyl, and entire strips of sleeping pills, plus RC psychedelics and/or dodgy RC dissociatives, washed down with alcohol.
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Was that aimed at myself?
Classy, and frankly unnecessary.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Was that aimed at myself?
Classy, and frankly unnecessary.
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It was a joke. You missed the joke in post #43, so lurching decided to have a chuckle about it. Nothing spiteful.

To recap: no, there will be no wholesale abolition of mental health services under the Tory government. Just a continuation of their gradual erosion / privatisation, but probably with an increase in pace.
 
Sammy G said:
It was a joke. You missed the joke in post #43, so lurching decided to have a chuckle about it. Nothing spiteful.

No, there will be no abolition of mental health services under the Tory government. Just a continuation of their gradual erosion / privatisation.
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Ahhh, thank you for the clarification. Still think it was just a tad personal, mind.
 
BecomingJulie said:
Manifesto promises are for getting elected, not living up to when you have been elected.
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I can't possibly imagine what's made you so cynical about politics :D

You're right though. Cameron didn't set his policies in stone.

Upon closer scrutiny, it is just the usual waffle. There's no actual substance in the commitment and the commitment is reported as being 'existing'. The 1.25 billion in the budget is certainly no guarantee either, especially as it's over the next 5 years.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Ahhh, thank you for the clarification. Still think it was just a tad personal, mind.
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Well you are always going on about taking combos of drugs which are unhealthy for somebody experiencing the symptoms you describe. Lurching's portrayal was a caricature, sure, but there were some truths in it.

Wilfully playing games with your mental health then complaining about the lack of a safety net can tend to prompt that kind of response.
 
Sammy G said:
Well you are always going on about taking combos of drugs which are unhealthy for somebody experiencing the symptoms you describe. Lurching's portrayal was a caricature, sure, but there were some truths in it.

Wilfully playing games with your mental health then complaining about the lack of a safety net can tend to prompt that kind of response.
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I am aware of the incredible hypocrisy in my posts, Sammy. I make light of such myself quite often.
It's no secret I have a massive problem with drugs and my mental health; two issues which are very often co-morbid and I would be very surprised if I was alone on this board with such issues. If we began making caricatures of every poor choice a poster on BL makes, it'd probably be hilarious, yes, but ultimately it doesn't really add much.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
I am aware of the incredible hypocrisy in my posts, Sammy. I make light of such myself quite often.
It's no secret I have a massive problem with drugs and my mental health; two issues which are very often co-morbid and I would be very surprised if I was alone on this board with such issues. If we began making caricatures of every poor choice a poster on BL makes, it'd probably be hilarious, yes, but ultimately it doesn't really add much.
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Perhaps lurching was trying to reach you through humour.

As for comorbid substance abuse and mental health problems, I'm very much aware of that, being a substance abuser and a mental health service user. Only I know that I'm cheating both myself and the people looking after me, not to mention endangering my life and health, if I indulge in certain drugs.

Anyway, sorry - topic.
 
Cheap offensive humor! It definitely was a personal dig, mainly at your gullibility. It should have went without saying that such mad binges won't do your mood disorder any good (because that's off-topic!)

(disclaimer, I'm also one of those co-morbids (is that a noun) and have spent crisis time in police cells instead of in a psychiatric ICU, because of budget cuts)
(ps. Evil Tories)
 
I'm guessing the mad binging you're referring to primarily was the ridiculous 11 days or so around Christmas? If so, it certainly didn't, but at that point in time that was half the point. It was basically an exercise in self-destruction, sabotaging my own well-being because it gave me, in some deluded way, a sense of control at a time when I felt powerless.

That binge however, did not land me in the psyche unit, and is not the focal point of my, as I have now learned to be, gullible worry - I have been in psyche "care" in various forms over long stretches of my life, and before I ever touched drugs, let alone became a benzo munching, Coke snorting, Crack/Fentanyl smoking, Junkie scumbag.

My posts on this forum are themselves a caricature of my actions. I do have the insight to see the destructive and frankly saddening impact my choices have made on my life, but this forum allows me to step back from the reality of it and laugh at myself. I would very much hope that the person I am outside of this forum, when I am no longer "Sprout", is absolutely incongruous with the image presented, as I imagine many other posters are. We are all human, and it would sadden me if I met in person another poster and they considered me as "Sprout the Crackhead" before getting to know me.

I have my own strong views on the mental health system of this country, for reasons both personal and objective, and so the initial comment that I questioned baited me: hook, line and sinker.

If either of you would wish to PM me, please feel free. <3
And mods: excise this portion of conversation if you wish. :) <3
 
Just to be clear, I haven't heard that the Tories are going to abolish all mental health services.

I was merely using hyperbole to make a point.
 
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