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First time DMT-smoked or oral?

If your nervous, and it is completely rational you would be just sprinkle 30mg in a joint. It won't be a break through experience but it will produce visuals, give you a feel of it and remove nerves of going deeper. You don't have to have a full on experience first time.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yeh, I just might do that. Do you know how it mixes with alcohol? IME having booze before a trip can put you in a better frame of mind for the trip (albeit a slightly reckless one), but also tends to potentiate it somewhat..
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Depends what you're going for. breakthrough trip and booze is a no for me, but a lil toot and its fine. made the mistake of breaking through whilst drunk a few times, wasnt the best of ideas, didnt have the balls to smoke it whilst sober to start off with. pre flight anxiety
 
I'd make sure you'd use a bulb vaporizer if possible to reduce loss, I put .1 in a vaporizer bulb a few years ago, burned and inhaled (it didn't all go up rather residued itself around the bulb) twice, holding my breath in as long as possible then exhaling before taking the next hit immediately, after the second one started seeing shroom esq honeycomb patterns around the room, on the third everything went absolutely mental for about 5 minutes, colours jumping out of screens and running around the walls, peoples faces turning into picaso paintings etc. A nice novelty I wouldn't bother again because at the same time I felt amazing, but like I also might be about to die.
 
englandgz74 said:
See to me that just sounds terrifying and like some kind of twisted torture. You couldn't pay me to take that, I'd be absutely scared shitless...
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Whats to fear, rationally, its non lethal, is found naturally in the body and is over in 15 mins tops?

Plus if you get a good lungful down, you don't always have time to get the fear. I have seen lots of people have a bad time on their first go mind.
 
warriorOnTheEdge said:
Whats to fear, rationally, its non lethal, is found naturally in the body and is over in 15 mins tops?

Plus if you get a good lungful down, you don't always have time to get the fear. I have seen lots of people have a bad time on their first go mind.
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Yeah your right, its not going to kill you but the fear of losing my mind and just losing the plot in general scares me. That's why I would never take acid or anything like that cos I know I'd hate it and would be just praying for it to end.

I think it would just be the whole "what the fuck is happening" thing that would scare me. II'm prone to panic attacks at the best of times and its just one of those things that scare me...

Probably illogically though but many fears are....
 
englandgz74 said:
Yeah your right, its not going to kill you but the fear of losing my mind and just losing the plot in general scares me. That's why I would never take acid or anything like that cos I know I'd hate it and would be just praying for it to end.

I think it would just be the whole "what the fuck is happening" thing that would scare me. II'm prone to panic attacks at the best of times and its just one of those things that scare me...

Probably illogically though but many fears are....
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The thing i've found with DMT is that most people that use it have served their time with other psychedelics so to speak. So the whole altered state isn't new to them. I can't be arsed with acid these days as it lasts too long, so the good old spice is the only one I bother with.

Wonder if anyone has done DMT as their first taste of psychedelics on here.

It was a bit crass of me to use 'rationaly' as as you say some fears aren't, for any of us.
 
I always kind of thought that if the thought of LSD scared me then DMT would absolutely terrify me. Although the shorter duration would mean that if it went badly then at least it would be over sooner.

I remember reading about the former 6 time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates who went to the Brazilian rainforest to take ayauaska (sp?) but I don't think it was his first phychadelic experience.... Now that DID sound scary but he said he was puking and shitting himself due to having to drink litres of foul liquid. He said he tried it again in the UK by smoking DMT powder and that was a far more pleasant experience. The whole puking and shitting thing was I imagine a bit off putting :)
 
I recommend an oral dose with an MAOI, syrian rue does work, oral is much longer lasting and worth doing it for your first time.
 
'Purging', i.e. puking and shitting seems to be quite common with oral DMT use - but it depends upon the individual. I know people that throw up every time on psilocybin mushrooms - I never have. Also, many people puke whilst going up on MDMA - again, I never have. Just depends if yer a fuckin puff or not ;)
 
englandgz74 said:
I always kind of thought that if the thought of LSD scared me then DMT would absolutely terrify me. Although the shorter duration would mean that if it went badly then at least it would be over sooner.

I remember reading about the former 6 time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates who went to the Brazilian rainforest to take ayauaska (sp?) but I don't think it was his first phychadelic experience.... Now that DID sound scary but he said he was puking and shitting himself due to having to drink litres of foul liquid. He said he tried it again in the UK by smoking DMT powder and that was a far more pleasant experience. The whole puking and shitting thing was I imagine a bit off putting :)
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Yeah, you can get all the ingredients of Ayahuasca online these days, I did it once and the same thing happened to me, not keen on things that make you purge8(

Changa is the easiest option for a milder DMT experience, though it can be just as powerful all depends on how you make your blend.
 
the trick is to reduce the volume of liquid so its concentrated and you dont have to drink liters of astringent gloop.

the extraction is so easy though yuo might aswell do that and eat the pure dmt.
 
Ceres said:
the trick is to reduce the volume of liquid so its concentrated and you dont have to drink liters of astringent gloop.

the extraction is so easy though yuo might aswell do that and eat the pure dmt.
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IIRC the whole thing was part of some ancient ritual from some tribe in the rainforest and drinking all the liquid and the subsequent puking and shitting were seen as part of that ritual. Not my idea of fun but each to their own and all that.
 
Ceres said:
the trick is to reduce the volume of liquid so its concentrated and you dont have to drink liters of astringent gloop.

the extraction is so easy though yuo might aswell do that and eat the pure dmt.
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But surely eating the pure DMT is not effective. Hence why it needs to be combined with an MAOI like Syrian rue for oral consumption?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yeh, I just might do that. Do you know how it mixes with alcohol? IME having booze before a trip can put you in a better frame of mind for the trip (albeit a slightly reckless one), but also tends to potentiate it somewhat..
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if you are really scared shitless, take a benzo beforehand. but to be honest, even if you are scares of taking it, its unlikely to affect your trip as youre completely propelled from your state of mind you were in before ingestion. if that makes sense. you could have a gun to your head and smoke dnt and you woukd forget the gun.
i find it a very user friendly drug. ive only had one bad trip and it really wasnt all that bad. if you like acid etc, youll love this shit!
 
Gave up 'delics years ago and came to dMT a couple of years ago - usually have a bit put away - i love it as you ucan adjust it to total ego loss to funny patterns and colours plus a fantastic bod buzz. No reason to be scared of it even if 15m can feel like 1000 years ; )
 
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