not a fun time at the er

[pillman1224]

so if any of you have seen my posts basically two weeks ago i tripped over a aint can and had an injury to my left foot. went to the podiatrist got 30 t3s they were not helping. so tonite at around 8 pm the pain was so unbearable i decided to go to the er waited an hour then got called back to see the doc. he sits my down in the hallway and i tell him what happened he wanted to give me an x ray but i already had one two days prior i told him the x ray came back negative for any breaks and i have an appointment for an MRI Monday since the pain is getting progressively worse. he doesn't look at my foot just sat me down and says i will give you two percocets. he then went on to say if i write you a prescription to get through till monday "you will die". i asked the nurse about why he would say such a thing and asked if the dea had been pressuring him or something she said no we just dont give out large quantities of pills. yeah 20 is a large quantity. any who i explained to her that i had been to this er for chest pain due to a whooping cough and giving promethezine with codeine. she said "well an 8z bottle of cough syrup is different then pills". really guys i could drink 2oz of the sizzurp and it would have the same effect as 2-3 percs. the reason for this post is to ask if anyone has had a similar er experience. oh btw i am calling my insurance company and reporting this doctor for under-medicating me. why you ask because he did. he is more worried about his license than his patients and assumed that i was a junkie by telling me i would die if he wrote a prescription for 20 percocets. also what do you guys think about people being under-medicated in this country and if you think it is real. thanks all and if this is in the wrong place i am very sorry i wasn't sure where to post since this is my go-to forum.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

You need to see an Orthopedic Dr. because sometimes the E.R. can miss fractures...it's better to have a 2nd opinioN. The E.R is not a substitute for long term treatment. And he is treating you so he doesn't loose his license, that's the law.

And....Mr. Sizzup

You are pill seeking. Sorry, but your behavior sends off alarms to the staff in the E.R. Hell, I spotted your drug seeking a few days ago in your other post. Lol

Addicts know addict behavior, so my advice to you is to see that foot Dr., or quit the drugs. You're headed down a path with a dark end....I know, I've been an addict off and on for over 20 years.

 

[pillman1224]

you are damn right i am seeking for pain relief not a high sorry. if i have any pills left at the end of this ordeal well then you know what happens to them.

 

[PotatoMan]

Under-medicated?? I see no wrong in what the doctor has done. In the UK they'd cut you open, stitch you back up and send you home with a bottle of Tylenol.

You tripped over a paint can? Is the pain really that severe?? I mean Oxy is for severe pain...Cancer patients. IMO it is over prescribed.

 

[Newin419]

Doctors are now under prescribing pain killers in response to the "epidemic". People should not be made to feel like addicts just bc they are in pain and would like treatment. Had the same thing happen to me a couple of year ago where I got hurt in an accident and had to buy pain killers off the street bc the doctor didn't believe in prescribing opiates. All he did was make me turn to the black market

 

[smitty704]

To be honest I think the Doc did the right thing, severe pain or not. My step fathers life was ruined from pain meds. Granted he was on them long term, but when he was "cut off" he was so physically dependent he ended up copping some heroin from the street(not a great choice obviously, but a reality).

He is now on methadone maintenance and has been for 10 years +/-. A lot of Dr's are ignorant and OVER prescribe. I salute your Dr.

 

[pillman1224]

To be honest I think the Doc did the right thing, severe pain or not. My step fathers life was ruined from pain meds. Granted he was on them long term, but when he was "cut off" he was so physically dependent he ended up copping some heroin from the street(not a great choice obviously, but a reality).

He is now on methadone maintenance and has been for 10 years +/-. A lot of Dr's are ignorant and OVER prescribe. I salute your Dr.

sorry to hear he was cut off he should have been on the same treatment plan he was before. and please don't salute my er doc i would love to see you in this much pain and called a seeker. just to see how you would react

 

[sekio]

If you go to a doctor demanding opioids without even trying any of the other methods of pain relief or anything like physiotherapy or scheduled surgery.... don't be surprised if you don't get any?

If 30 tylenol 3's aren't enough to treat the pain and there are no breaks you have something seriously fucked up with your foot and masking it with painkillers is going to fuck you in the long run.

You should be taking anti-inflammatories of some sort rather than acetaminophen and opioids, by the way. That's the best class of drugs for inflammatory pain.

 

[T. Calderone]

I can only share an experience I had when I had to get an outpatient surgery to have a benign tumor removed. They sent me home with Darvocet but once the anesthesia wore off, I was in excruciating pain and those pills weren't working. It was late, probably 10 at night and I called the surgeon's emergency service and explained how I was feeling. They had no problem phoning in some hydrocodone to my 24 hour Walgreens.

My point is, why are you going to different medical facilities expecting to get better treatment? Especially when they wanted to perform an x-ray and you refused, telling them your previous x-ray showed it wasn't broken. What did you really expect them to do for you? If you're in so much pain, call the original doctor who gave you the motrin. Or you're just going to have to wait until Monday when you get the MRI.

 

[《Plasticity》]

One of the reasons doctors are so reluctant to prescribe painkillers for foot injuries is so that you don't overwork it because you feel fine. Just from reading your posts you seem to be using this foot injury as an excuse to get some goodies, and the doctors see that there's nothing seriously wrong and aren't biting. That's not to say that you aren't in pain, they just haven't found anything that warrants strong opioids.

Judging by the attitude you portray in your posts it's no surprise they aren't first in line to hand out percocet, you sound like a textbook drug seeker. From past experience I've found that going to the ER or doctors office over and over with the same problem typically diminishes your credibility rather than them taking you seriously... especially if you're refusing alternative treatments and demanding narcotics.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

you are damn right i am seeking for pain relief not a high sorry. if i have any pills left at the end of this ordeal well then you know what happens to them.

I was joking around with you. And as someone who has worked in the E.R. off and on since 1996, I've seen it all.

Laws have changed...so let me explain this to you in layman terms. Before, you could get RX from various doctors without a hitch. However, it's all linked now in the USA, assuming this is where you're from? You're talking to a nurse about "DEA, Sizzup, etc.) so those raise red flags as well.

So basically....

- Your Ortho wrote you 30 T3, so depending on your QID/TID, those should have lasted 10-21 days or so. If you ran out of them before the scheduled time, then went back to the ER for meds, the Dr. probably got red flags.

- Your MRI results will probably get you another RX depending on your results, so if you got 20 pills from ER that would be considered a 7 day supply (20-21 tablets) . Be thankful he didn't write you those 20 because if you get a new RX after your MRI, doubt you'd be able to get it filled.

- Getting multiple scripts from multiple doctors is against the law in most states and considered doctor shopping. I'm telling you this because while you may be in pain, the DEA don't give a shit. Laws are laws, period. You should google the RX monitoring program laws in your state, so you will understand them.

I'm not busting your balls, assuming you are male. Since this is also a harm reduction site, it's best to let you know that craving drugs and using multiple doctors can get ya in trouble.

Hope your foot feels better.

 

[pillman1224]

I can only share an experience I had when I had to get an outpatient surgery to have a benign tumor removed. They sent me home with Darvocet but once the anesthesia wore off, I was in excruciating pain and those pills weren't working. It was late, probably 10 at night and I called the surgeon's emergency service and explained how I was feeling. They had no problem phoning in some hydrocodone to my 24 hour Walgreens.

My point is, why are you going to different medical facilities expecting to get better treatment? Especially when they wanted to perform an x-ray and you refused, telling them your previous x-ray showed it wasn't broken. What did you really expect them to do for you? If you're in so much pain, call the original doctor who gave you the motrin. Or you're just going to have to wait until Monday when you get the MRI.

i expected a shot of something to get me through the night and a take home prescription to get me through until i get an mri

 

[pillman1224]

i knew you were just ball busting btw i did not use the term sizzurp i used the proper term promethezine with codeine. both the same thing though saying sizzurp would have raised a flag

 

[pillman1224]

i have tried the following 800mg ibuprofen, 440, mgs of naproxem sodium, 5 t3s, and 2 5mg percocets. the only thing that helped my pain was those 2 percocets and probably saved my from putting my .22lr in my mouth. but docs are more worried about there licenses then there patients which is fucked.

 

[blazequietly]

When you go to the ER it is a crap shoot. You have to really appear to be in severe pain these days if you want a script to percocets. I haven gotten a few for a tooth ache.[no no no] A lot of doctors will call and confirm u have an appointment before they offer to write you for some vicodin or percocet, some doctors simply will say this is not the place to get pain medicine and just give you a script for like 8 tramadol, or even worse some ibprophen if they are real assholes. Some doctors will give you a shot of morphine and send you on your way no no prescription. Emergency room are meant to do one thing, that is STABILIZE your condition until you can get the proper care, and to them, it shouldnt take you any longer than a day or two to get to your primary care physician, a dentist or whatever doctor they refer you to. There is one doctor in the ER around where I live, works every wednesday and will give almost any one a prescription for 30 percocet if they come in and ask for it. How this guy still has his license is beyond me, which is exactly why most docs dont prescribe oxycodone, especially ER docs. I know a dentist that got in a lot of trouble for over prescribing percocets, she was basically giving drug addicts like 40 10mg percocets per tooth they let her pull, then she would give a refill like 3 days later sometimes to. The DEA came and she got in some deep shit. now she will only write for 20 perk 10s, and never write u a second prescription and has quit basically offering druggies pills to let her yanks their teeth. anyways have a nice night.

 

[pillman1224]

When you go to the ER it is a crap shoot. You have to really appear to be in severe pain these days if you want a script to percocets. I haven gotten a few for a tooth ache. What I do it poke at and scrape my gums around one of my back tooth and go in there holding my face and look like im about to cry. I also make sure to call a dentist, and dentist will do and make an appointment for about 4 days out, so you can tell them about this appointment. A lot of doctors will call and confirm u have an appointment before they offer to write you for some vicodin or percocet, some doctors simply will say this is not the place to get pain medicine and just give you a script for like 8 tramadol, or even worse some ibprophen if they are real assholes. Some doctors will give you a shot of morphine and send you on your way no no prescription. Emergency room are meant to do one thing, that is STABILIZE your condition until you can get the proper care, and to them, it shouldnt take you any longer than a day or two to get to your primary care physician, a dentist or whatever doctor they refer you to. There is one doctor in the ER around where I live, works every wednesday and will give almost any one a prescription for 30 percocet if they come in and ask for it. How this guy still has his license is beyond me, which is exactly why most docs dont prescribe oxycodone, especially ER docs. I know a dentist that got in a lot of trouble for over prescribing percocets, she was basically giving drug addicts like 40 10mg percocets per tooth they let her pull, then she would give a refill like 3 days later sometimes to. The DEA came and she got in some deep shit. now she will only write for 20 perk 10s, and never write u a second prescription and has quit basically offering druggies pills to let her yanks their teeth. anyways have a nice night.

the funny thing is my insurance has not covered my mri yet. it still says pending approval. god forbid a multibillion dollar company loses 1k to a fucking mri that i actually need.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

Ok so here....

Example: Patient comes in with foot pain, Radiologist claims there's no fractures, Dr. sends them to Orthopedic. Orthopedic finds metatarsal hairline fracture, etc. etc.

It happens, a lot....stress fractures can happen after you go home due to pressure of boot/splint...or re-injury.

Get that MRI, asap. Stay on the phone, keep calling, push them. The office has many, many other patients, so your case may be on the backburner.

I'm sorry you are having such a bad time, and hope you get the answers you need. Everyone tolerates pain differently.

Just remember what I, and the others have said about multi scripts from multi doctors. We don't want your treatment to come to a halt because you look like a pill seeker.

Hugs

 

[pillman1224]

Ok so here....

Example: Patient comes in with foot pain, Radiologist claims there's no fractures, Dr. sends them to Orthopedic. Orthopedic finds metatarsal hairline fracture, etc. etc.

It happens, a lot....stress fractures can happen after you go home due to pressure of boot/splint...or re-injury.

Get that MRI, asap. Stay on the phone, keep calling, push them. The office has many, many other patients, so your case may be on the backburner.

I'm sorry you are having such a bad time, and hope you get the answers you need. Everyone tolerates pain differently.

Just remember what I, and the others have said about multi scripts from multi doctors. We don't want your treatment to come to a halt because you look like a pill seeker.

Hugs

thanks a bunch my good friend

 

[nygiants1313]

America is over medicated to say the least.

 

[TheLostBoys]

To be honest I think the Doc did the right thing, severe pain or not. My step fathers life was ruined from pain meds. Granted he was on them long term, but when he was "cut off" he was so physically dependent he ended up copping some heroin from the street(not a great choice obviously, but a reality).

He is now on methadone maintenance and has been for 10 years +/-. A lot of Dr's are ignorant and OVER prescribe. I salute your Dr.

Your step fathers life was ruined my pain meds?? How many lives are ruined by legal alcohol & cigarettes?

There is no excuse for doctors not yo prescribe pain medication if there is proof on the xray/MRI

There is a huge under prescribing epidemic in every country......& its cone to the US......maybe there's a hidden agenda by our govt to have people get hooked on heroin, I mean they are over in Afghanistan with the CIA & military guarding the biggest poppy fields, you get where I'm going with this.

Anyway, back on topic.......the doctor should take responsibility in prescribing adequate pain meds, hydrocodone would work usually......& its the patients job to take the meds as prescribed.

Do patients get put of control with their meds? Of course it happens, & it happens a lot, but it happens with alcohol & tons of other things.

Most doctors are a joke when it comes to prescribing pain meds now a days.

As for does the OP really need pain meds? We can only state what we've read on here about his visit to the ER