Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

[psytaco]

I'm actually thinking of biting the bullet and calling one of those 24 hour drug counselling lines - drugs have been issue for a while and I probably need to admit a problem and get advice on ways to cut back.

 

[floatingaround]

^You could also try deleting all dealers numbers and cutting full contact with all your dealers aswell. Get away from the scene dude get into a hobby, go for walks or runs, play sports, draw things, write music/lyrics etc.

I know how hard the psychological addiction can get with meth I Used to IV it for years. I found the best way I cut my use right back was avoiding all those people, going for walks, writing music and as each week goes by It becomes easier after about that first month. You gotta have the willpower and be determined to achieve soberness, make it a goal, and achievement. Easier said then done. Also try to focus and remember how horrible those bloody come downs are and consider to yourself again is it worth it?

Good luck mate

 

[canberracrack]

fuck. coming reallY close to wanting to quit this shit. for the first two years it was great then literally two weeks ago i had my first bad wig out and its just kept coming. if i smoke more than say 2 points in a 24 hr period, i wig the fuck out and lose all sense of reality. paranoid at the window looking for the secret police wigging it., if i stay up too long, around midnight ish on the second night awake, i will start to lose my sh*t quite badly. i hate to say it but i dunno if this stuffs for me anymore. plus it used to make me go hard as at work and zoom through now i get super paranoid everyone knows I'm tweaked and act weird and my boss has picked up on my change in behaviour. fuck. fuck. so annoying as i love meth and honestly dunno how ill quit. its been like 2.5 years or so since i went a whole day without a twirl. i usually go through a gram a week...sometimes more.

plus that shit with my old dealer is fucking annoying me. i tried to let him know thru a friend that i had a psychosis but he won't listen and apparently him and his mates are set on abducting me and taking me out to the bush and flogging the shit out of me/possibly killing me. starting to get paranoid ppl will set me up but at least my new dealer hates the cunt so i won't get set up there.

 

[canberracrack]

on a positive note I've been using a straight pipe, heating it up on my gas stove then dropping like a half point or so in and just twirling like a mofuck, goddamn i get high so quick its like an ice bong but with the fun of twirling.

 

[tweak_chef]

@psytaco, I remember my 1st reason to quit meth, it was just to get away from it "temporarily", because the last time i smoked one, my neighbors were fucking with me, they knew i occasionally tweaked and they knew that particular day, so at night, they knocked and made all this kind of weird shit sound like, "yeah he's up there!", "can you phone the police" and some shit like that, so while I was high that time, my psychosis kicked in, i thought a police squad was waiting for me, since then I stopped on taking ICE, and after that the psychological symptoms came out, the lack of sleep didnt help either, I was like a ticking time bomb, no issue was too little for me. I didnt want to have to do that to my siblings and so after that I quit, that only made my cravings went really high for weeks, but I got a job away from the scene and there is ZERO meth here. Im thankful and I miss it. But it was good. I still have anxieties though, I guess the trauma is still there.

But Im glad to say it's been 2 years from taking...and Im still in this god forsaken island. sober but safe.

Withdrawals a bitch dude.

When the craving sets in, the significant other helps alot. if not just get a friend that supports your withdrawal that helps.

Find 3 reasons what meth can do to them or you that would leave a negative impact on them, for me, it was my family, i didnt want them to be affected with my outbursts or bad habits or make them think im dealing ( for them, taking drugs is also dealing and they are automatically become a drug lord in their mind set).

Try to have productive hobbies, mine was cooking food ( not cooking meth), because when I smoke it, it makes me taste everything else bland. So that was one reason that helped me delay my decision to buy...

...and it went on for 2 years, bro. Believe me. It's a hard struggle, but being clean and the fact that people see you as someone who does not take is really a good decision.

 

[ThatOneDude!]

holy shit balls- i think I've just scored some of the best meth I've ever smoked. this stuff is like almost clear chunky solid shards. I think this `as close to pure product as u can get.

Yah! i know exactly what your talking about! not only does the shit i get look nice and big fat chunky crystal fukin clear, but i snort small amount and fly for hours..... i havent seen different stuff so i wouldnt know if its all like that, or is some foggy?/not so big large fat clear crystally goodness!


Many of you talk about will power and such, being able to quit whenever! i dont doubt it, but like confidence in will power can cause you to find yourself against bigger obstacle of addiction/withdrawals than you anticipated, and TRULY put your "will Power" to the test!

I will honestly say that "i can stop whenever!" haha, i choose not to tho! AND i most likely am too blind to realize i actually cant!


I am half brain dead from sleep deprivation right now, i mean to say almost three months of binge-style use i have been doing. just about almost literally every day! but yah i can get some FAT shards to say the least!

So maybe I am sensitive, or have unique brain chemistry? i did notice on week one my tolerance climbing rapidly, into week two and closer to week three was like i just was numb to it! got bodily effects but that was it! no mental effects! so started doing research, managed to bring my tolerance WAY back down. do things like take amphetamine potentiators, and supplements to increase dopamine production. while apparently taking lots of Magnesium Citrate has my brain set at "low" for tolerance lol. i was surprised to read how fixed that was, but i just went down from big tolerance to almost none. and have been maintaining that ever since.


MORE IMPORTANTLY I am worried about the path i am on. past mistakes since then, and where i will end up. Time is like nothing! just constantly collapsing before my eyes (memory). as i look back and think, "its been that long already?" lol i mean i feel like i just must have it, and past/dormant psychological issues are coming up. i also find now i have a split personality disorder!!!! and without any shards (which feels like forever and i find some later in the day anyways) i find myself Angry, Irritable, and other stuff that puts me in BIG Fog of self control! Hense my split personality disorder, along with other problems. its definitly effecting the "mind" part of my brain as well. this mental instability without is insane. and i feel so nice and high and "dormant" on this stuff. all sped up for hours!... MOST the time i feel normal like everyone else. but like ive psychologically developed my own dependency/addiction while coupled with a unstable brain possibly? i dont know but since i've started, i refuse to stop, but still feel in complete control! like water and food and sleep are essential, if one is going to be a problem, we tend to think about how soon the issue can be resolved. so i do the same now with meth! i've got a new stash before i run out, because "what am i going to do!" haha, but seriously....

MY ADVICE: Be Extra careful if you used to take anti-psychotic meds prior to meth use! it can trigger bizarre reactions!

I dont even notice when i switch personalities! im always me! haha however, one night i go outside to my car and there is random person sleeping in back seat! i woke him up and he said he was supposed to be dropped off at McDonalds??? like what da'fuk! im dropping off a sleeping person to McDonalds?! this was at 3am i find him there!

this non-stop meth use is blurring time together! its day/night forwards to backwards, and somehow upside down. yet doesnt move, just one weird flat constant. lol

 

[MikeRWK]

on a positive note I've been using a straight pipe, heating it up on my gas stove then dropping like a half point or so in and just twirling like a mofuck, goddamn i get high so quick its like an ice bong but with the fun of twirling.

Dude you need to STOP USING METH! Get some eurospeed or d-amp and ween yourself off, you're off your fucking rocker!

Yah! i know exactly what your talking about! not only does the shit i get look nice and big fat chunky crystal fukin clear, but i snort small amount and fly for hours..... i havent seen different stuff so i wouldnt know if its all like that, or is some foggy?/not so big large fat clear crystally goodness!


Many of you talk about will power and such, being able to quit whenever! i dont doubt it, but like confidence in will power can cause you to find yourself against bigger obstacle of addiction/withdrawals than you anticipated, and TRULY put your "will Power" to the test!

I will honestly say that "i can stop whenever!" haha, i choose not to tho! AND i most likely am too blind to realize i actually cant!


I am half brain dead from sleep deprivation right now, i mean to say almost three months of binge-style use i have been doing. just about almost literally every day! but yah i can get some FAT shards to say the least!

So maybe I am sensitive, or have unique brain chemistry? i did notice on week one my tolerance climbing rapidly, into week two and closer to week three was like i just was numb to it! got bodily effects but that was it! no mental effects! so started doing research, managed to bring my tolerance WAY back down. do things like take amphetamine potentiators, and supplements to increase dopamine production. while apparently taking lots of Magnesium Citrate has my brain set at "low" for tolerance lol. i was surprised to read how fixed that was, but i just went down from big tolerance to almost none. and have been maintaining that ever since.


MORE IMPORTANTLY I am worried about the path i am on. past mistakes since then, and where i will end up. Time is like nothing! just constantly collapsing before my eyes (memory). as i look back and think, "its been that long already?" lol i mean i feel like i just must have it, and past/dormant psychological issues are coming up. i also find now i have a split personality disorder!!!! and without any shards (which feels like forever and i find some later in the day anyways) i find myself Angry, Irritable, and other stuff that puts me in BIG Fog of self control! Hense my split personality disorder, along with other problems. its definitly effecting the "mind" part of my brain as well. this mental instability without is insane. and i feel so nice and high and "dormant" on this stuff. all sped up for hours!... MOST the time i feel normal like everyone else. but like ive psychologically developed my own dependency/addiction while coupled with a unstable brain possibly? i dont know but since i've started, i refuse to stop, but still feel in complete control! like water and food and sleep are essential, if one is going to be a problem, we tend to think about how soon the issue can be resolved. so i do the same now with meth! i've got a new stash before i run out, because "what am i going to do!" haha, but seriously....

MY ADVICE: Be Extra careful if you used to take anti-psychotic meds prior to meth use! it can trigger bizarre reactions!

I dont even notice when i switch personalities! im always me! haha however, one night i go outside to my car and there is random person sleeping in back seat! i woke him up and he said he was supposed to be dropped off at McDonalds??? like what da'fuk! im dropping off a sleeping person to McDonalds?! this was at 3am i find him there!

this non-stop meth use is blurring time together! its day/night forwards to backwards, and somehow upside down. yet doesnt move, just one weird flat constant. lol

It sounds like your in the full grip of addiction, feeling totally in control while from the outside its obvious you're anything but in control.

I have never used meth and I don't intend to, so while I don't have any experience with it from my sober and sane perspective it's obvious you guys are losing grip of reality.

 

[SpeedFreak69brissy]

canberracrack, I suggest that you seek professional help ASAP! Put the pipe down!

Any Queensland users here? I reckon that the shit I booted up (2 points) about 4 weeks back, seriously rocked my socks...I'm a slammer, non-homosexual and luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv the ice rush, the shit that I booted up about 4 weeks back had me feeling 'WHOAHHHH FUCK AM I GOING TO DIE!!!! NAH, GET YOUR MARBLES TOGETHER AND SIT THE FUCK STILL, AND ENJOY THE RUSH!'.

I know now what your Southerners are like now with your crystal, it's a very hard feeling to beat! Just got to get a handle on it aye!

Any QLD'ers contact me about the purity of it (50%+) apart from the Mexicans' shit (95%)...holy shittttttttttttttttt! i couldn't handle it and become another statistic!

Thank Fuck, we live in Australia!

 

[canberracrack]

fuck shits getting weird. i need to get some fucking sleep. cant sleep clown will eat me?

 

[ThatOneDude!]

Any QLD'ers contact me about the purity of it (50%+) apart from the Mexicans' shit (95%)...holy shittttttttttttttttt! i couldn't handle it and become another statistic!

Thank Fuck, we live in Australia!

I live really close to Mexico to say the least, and many of them live near by! haha, altho idk if that has anything to do with the crazy shit i've been getting but, but probly along those lines... haha

I had to pop a Xanie Bar (2mg) just yesterday becaues i swear my heart rate was so dam high from stacking effects of the previous times. got me worried (perhaps paranoid) and i wasnt going to take any chances, plus my arms were hurting, i figured was the veins! you know i can STILL smell! All i do is snort mostly! / A shit tone! altho bloody mucus sucks!

 

[tweak_chef]

The best thing that worked for me when I was using meth every other day was that, I had hobbies and activities.

After taking it, I was either plugged into my laptop or I was out having fun like at a bar or playing with my band.
It was good run for a few months, because after the activity I'd sleep like a log for a whole day.

Its only when I took it alone and had to deal with work the following day is why my anxiety and temper tantrums (from sleep deprivation) kicked in.

So my best advices for those who are having it good, dont mix with work. your behavior will put you on the spot.
And for those who are with it on a day to day basis, regulate if not moderate.
And for those who want to quit, are trying to...I was a meth addict, from moderation to dependency, I didnt know that I had it in me to quit, but as I destroyed the relationships of everyone I know and my work, I had to. That was my turning point.

I will say this over and over again, its been two years I havent had it. So If it worked for me, also for those who want to.

But for those that has it controlled, salude. Just pray you can keep it that way.

Meth plays dirty tricks on your mind, eyes and ears.

 

[methyldreams]

You dance with the devil when you take meth. Some people will only dance with him others will just get a fleeting glance at him. The people who sell their soul to him will never recover.
I would love to quit but it's fucking everywhere, yeah I should change my group of friends but it's not that easy. Since Friday night I would have been given at least 2 grams. I have a huge tolerance which has just recently got to a point where I have to smoke or inject 3-5 p before I feel stimulated. Just say NO you say? try saying NO to a drug which from the very 1st time I tried made me feel normal and able to think clearly for the 1st time in my life.
This morning I had 6 minutes to make it to a train, I almost got there until I had to stop otherwise my heart was going to BLOW.

Meth's affects are that you think your ok and better then normal, gives you motivation for almost anything and a incredible aphrodisiac, If you don't sleep you begin to live in a lucid dream which makes some people incredible paranoid..

I dance with the devil regulary. I'm tired of this same dance and need to get away from it. My problem is I am diagnosed ADD and are prescribed 10 dexamphetamine a day. They have only been lasting 2 days now then I sleep and recover and repeat I have to get away from this

 

[tweak_chef]

@methyldreams,

Meth's affects are that you think your ok and better then normal, gives you motivation for almost anything and a incredible aphrodisiac, If you don't sleep you begin to live in a lucid dream which makes some people incredible paranoid..

Yeah it does. Ive been there myself...

Taking meth is ok for me as long is I dont take it during my work weeks and only during the night before my week off so I can sleep better when it comes down.
My mistake was taking it even when I have to work a few hours after. Or sleep deprivated. Makes me cranky. And my workmates are ex-users (or so they say) so they can definitely tell if I was on it.

About the paranoia. Yes I agree. 3x I experienced that. the best way to deal with that is doing something after taking it.

 

[tweak_chef]

Who here still uses tin foil style? Lots of friends I have uses the pipe. But I think the pipe only makes it darker and bitter. while the tinfoil really makes you use everything without over heating it.

 

[smokedup]

tin foils way more efficient, but requires a mad scientist level technique to acquire masterchef level. I dont trust when im half cooked to be as efficient as when i first got onso i opt out. Plus the pipeis easy to carry, pack, know how much to share etc

 

[methyldreams]

My cousin get's the hugest clouds from tin foil, I have learned to circular breath so I can smoke as much as I want out of a pipe lol

 

[ThatOneDude!]

You dance with the devil when you take meth. Some people will only dance with him others will just get a fleeting glance at him. The people who sell their soul to him will never recover.
I would love to quit but it's fucking everywhere, yeah I should change my group of friends but it's not that easy. Since Friday night I would have been given at least 2 grams. I have a huge tolerance which has just recently got to a point where I have to smoke or inject 3-5 p before I feel stimulated. Just say NO you say? try saying NO to a drug which from the very 1st time I tried made me feel normal and able to think clearly for the 1st time in my life.
This morning I had 6 minutes to make it to a train, I almost got there until I had to stop otherwise my heart was going to BLOW.

Meth's affects are that you think your ok and better then normal, gives you motivation for almost anything and a incredible aphrodisiac, If you don't sleep you begin to live in a lucid dream which makes some people incredible paranoid..

I dance with the devil regulary. I'm tired of this same dance and need to get away from it. My problem is I am diagnosed ADD and are prescribed 10 dexamphetamine a day. They have only been lasting 2 days now then I sleep and recover and repeat I have to get away from this

So I was cravin some coke one day, ended up finding shards instead, loved it! Began my dance, feeling completely in control the whole time, it was perfect! i loved this "dance" kept going, i intentionally wanted more, as i felt in control and just obsessed with it! since i first started ive not stopped! now i'm practically being raped by the devil, the dance was fun, and still going, but this time im really realizing, im stuck! i do it every day, i dont sleep most nights when i have work the next day from 2pm-10pm plus other shit to do. MAYBE i get 3 hours, and feel TOTALLY rested and wake up fast! but shortly after doing some lines! Im workin late hours next day after no sleep, then the next, and so on! getting barely any sleep! so now i need it to make it thru the day without passing out. been taking lots of 5 hour energy shots and energy drinks and/or adderall WITH the shards! on my weekends i just sleep all day to find im going to be up all night anyways! im addicted and hooked in a way that is so trapping. kinda like having the devil pin ya down and fuck you. this shit is crazy. idk how to stop, there are times when i can just NOT do it! (and end up passing out at proper time) but my judgment/reasoning is numbed into i will just* do some now, or not even think about it, but feel i need some and do some kinda like getting a glass of water, of knowing your hungry, and going to the fridge!

I was always like, "i dont know how this is addicting? Im not needing it, or having withdrawals. But it would really like to do some now!" and i would just do more! idk how its got me from first use through insane deception? but it did! and over time, that "devil" has been takin advantage of me so to speak. i still "have control" sure, but to be honest, im not stopping! i feel more like i need it than want it, even tho i want it JUST as bad. the cravings of wanting it are practically a withdrawal itself!

...Yah i'll admit im very addicted! and suspect (against my beliefs) that it actually started from FIRST use.
Dont fuck with the devil! cause he will fuck you and i am very uncertain about the future! i know my brain is definitely changing, on a mental/psychotic level! along with the other ways it messes with ur brain. but im just..... its fuked up! i gotta admit, like "i was roofied the whole time the devils been fukin me!" and just now wakin up to realize, how far things have gotten out of my control!

And HONESTLY, caffeine, adderall, coke, molly, they dont replace the shards! if i could find a replacement, preferably more health one then sure, i can imagine this would be no problem, but if those above dont work as replacement..... yah! its bad!

 

[methyldreams]

your right molly or anything wont replace em, I agree with your statement as you think you don't need em but it would be nice if you had sum, I'v been lucky since I'm not buying it no more I'v been given lots and lots of the stuff.. not gonna be easy but i'l get over it, the devil didnt rape me so I still have my self respect

 

[my innerself]

been getting some pee sized rocks lately that look like broken pieces of a car windscreen, fuck me this shit is strong stuff, I'Ved 2.5 points yesterday about 11am and fuck me!!!! what an intense rush, too much. was panting in and out for about 2 mins straight, did 2 big sneezes then about 4 huge dry heaves, thought I was gonna spew all over my couch, my dick almost retreated somewhere near my pelvis, Smashed my mate 30 times in a row at fight night champions, he just wouldn't give up haha useless cunt, 630am in the morning now and im still charging, musta jerked off about 15 times to every different kinda porn I could find, lost about $400 playing internet poker (fuck that is more addictive then this shit), found myself going into auto drive to mix up another point with a little voice in my head shouting "don't do it...don't do it", managed to put it away thank Christ for that I'd probably kill myself if I had more right now, who the fuck is making this shit??? I bet its not those faggot WA bikies but they probably had something to do with it reaching my hands, thankyou rebels, thankyou rockmachine (hahaha iget it now) NOT!!!! what to do now?? fuck fuck fuck, have a great weekend meth heads aussie peeps and watch out for broken windscreen shit, bye!!

 

[the_ketaman]

Fuck meth has got me into so much trouble in the last week!

I usually take meth with usually clonazepam but sometimes Xanax, valium or other benzos. Anyway my week consisted of smoking and IV'ing lots of meth, smoking pot, taking clonaz, injecting extra methadone because a double dose of methadone plus some pills feels very similar to heroin to me but I obviously took it a bit too hard :/

All the downers(Benzo's, Methadone, Heroin/Oxy/Morphine) mess with my desire and ability to have sex so I use meth for that but I also get anxious on meth so the benzos are a must unfortunately. And the benzos contribute to me making irresponsible decisions involving sex. I become extremely focused on sexual and chemical pleasure and ignoring about everything else. I lots a few points of heroin that I really wanted, I thought I lost 20+ 2mg Rivotril(clonazepam, I found them though). I lost my wallet but it was returned with $200 missing, the other stuff in my bag was gone too. Then I had a lot of unprotected sex with guys who are likely HIV+ and at the time I didn't care one bit. Now isn't that terrifying that drugs can make your normal concerns mean nothing at all, I knew what I was doing, its just the care factor was zero. I guess I can just hope for the best.

To top it off I just had 8mg of clonazepam and a decent 0.2g shot of pure crystal meth because im exhausted and would rather not think about the consequences of my actions today. Im about to pour myself a baileys too and alcohol is something I never enjoyed until I started having these ice/benzo/opiate/pot binges, alcohol just adds that little bit extra, I don't get drunk, I just potentiate the benzos and ice.

Apparently I was found walking down the middle of the street(obviously obliterated on benzo's/booze/opiates) by the police with a ton of used sharps, luckily all the drugs were hidden while they were searching me but its not a good look while im on probation, a good behaviour bond, an AVO which says im not allowed to drink or get intoxicated in anyway within 12 hours of being in my suburb and luckily I was nowhere near home when this happened but im being reviewed by probation and its very possibly that Ill be asked to leave here(the only place that im able to live full stop) I could also end up in jail finshing off my sentence because they took my bong and if I were them id be thinking that I haven't changed at all even though I have dramatically. It sucks because they were thinking of terminating my probationary period early because of how well I was doing but one fuckup and now that's all but an impossibility that has been taken away from me due to such a stupid and simple mistake! And its only me to blame. Though my ex was being really nasty and if he hadn't have done what he did none of this would have happened.