I just bought my first vaporizer!

[ChipTrippyFox]

Perhaps you could innovate a design and send it to the company of your choosing

Oh and my box was plain, it didn't have any indication of what was inside.
There is a full manual inside including instructions on the elbow and balloons.

I'm curious if they have changed its design to be more appropriate for consumption

 

[GabrielKnight]

I decided to put my old-skool Volcano vaporizer (analogue solid valve ) back together after 12 years of it sitting in pieces in the basement!

Can I just check with other users: Is the mouthpiece with attached metal tube supposed to just fall out? Am I missing a part that keeps it in place or is it a 'design feature' so that a group can use different mouthpieces without fuss?

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations everyone,

...some nice investigation...

Well i needed to eliminate any possibility for confusion, so i made sure in the end that "cooling" wasn't the cure i required, through comparisons.

So you gave up on using a humidifier and switched over to boiling pot?

Yes, the cold mist nebulizer setups inspired me some concerns while i could trust boiling water intuitively as a moisture source.

How is the pressure in the vape hose being balanced with the pressure in the hose from the boiling pot?

This picture should explain it at a glance:

THC and other noble goodies never touch water, e.g. no water-washing ever takes place here!

The water vapor tube is submerged under cold water so bubbles dissipate heat before it mixes with the cannabic stream floating above water surface. So, water vapor enters the mixing cavity "on-demand", gravity causes a natural valve effect which prevents circulation unless the user created sufficient negative pressure inside (with his lips sealing the path)... In addition i should equally mention the boiler's lid had a tiny venting hole.

Perhaps you could innovate a design and send it to the company of your choosing...

It turns out i have made public some views under tags like FogBong and LavaWand, no strings attached. Like GabrielKnight above, i suppose, i had bits and pieces around and it gave me a few sparks, LEGO-style... In any case this is how i manage with my electric unit these days, i've even added cotton to catch particles:

It's neither 100 % HerbalAir nor Arizer, it had to be some "modding" and for me it works only with selected vegetal batches and not others. Still with a glass of water or two nearby. Dryness calls for moisturization always, before or after... But on top of that the convection mode in my V-Tower really compounded to the problem as i didn't have the lungs to benefit fully from it because pre-heating often felt too tiresome. While the personalized alternative shown above probably fits my needs better simply because it's more compact and that would cut delays hence remove some of the related discomfort, just what it takes to render that tolerable to me i guess.

Yet that's a world apart from the modded VG pipe.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

I love my Storz & Bickel Plenty. I have two cheap Chinese portable vapes that seem OK too (Flowermate Vapormax v5 & Hebe Titan 2), but I'm seriously considering buying another Storz & Bickel, the Crafty portable.

 

[thujone]

THC and other noble goodies never touch water, e.g. no water-washing ever takes place here!

The water vapor tube is submerged under cold water so bubbles dissipate heat before it mixes with the cannabic stream floating above water surface. So, water vapor enters the mixing cavity "on-demand", gravity causes a natural valve effect which prevents circulation unless the user created sufficient negative pressure inside (with his lips sealing the path)... In addition i should equally mention the boiler's lid had a tiny venting hole.

nice i was a bit sceptical in the past but the current progress looks great, if the water vapour generation could be miniaturized and incorporated into a design with the vape crucible and the glasswork somehow incorporated to tie it all together i'd consider buying whatever results

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations ThujOne,

...i was a bit sceptical in the past but the current progress looks great...

Mostly it's in the observer's own eye; as far as i'm concerned it has happened already, just not yet!!

For example the following picture shows features that i could exploit in my LavaWand world:

In fact this could be how a LavaWand prototype would look.

At the moment i can even observe my auxiliary chamber in action and attempt to imagine a transposition to some symetrical "bullet" system where the endings are identical though bi-functional, depending on what side it is on. My intent would be to implement a simple self-cleaning system where the SiC sponge works as a radiator in the heat-exchanger role but also a vaporizing pad when turned around after collecting resin from a couple heavy sessions. Actually guess what i envision when i hold the handle...

...if the water vapour generation could be miniaturized and incorporated...

When i 1st raised this matter there was mention that water would require too much energy, though with a 1.3 KW IH drive it ain't much of a problem to inject as much as needed... So i'm confident there's plenty to run a boiler built around a heater made of Curie-alloy with formulation and geometry/mass appropriate to vaporize a droplet or two, one at a time, on-demand...

Capilarity followed by localized heating would be at work here, which differs significantly from the more global FogBong approach:

Beware of spills!... 8)

Ultimately i can reason having the magnetic induction base scaled-down to something like 300 Watts, which is still a lot to play with without having to make trade-offs on speed, for example. Even more, as a matter of fact does it take so much energy a water droplet can't be vaporized on batteries? Perhaps, why not!

IMO water vapor generated at the thin edge of an SiC evaporating comb sure sounds realistic with distilled water in the tank, at least when i place a wet puck on a red-hot stove iron the water evaporates rapidly and i see no residues, of course. Intuition tells me that's one scenario i must include as i've realized self-moisturization must be performed at the inlet point idealy, because moist air heated at 192 °C should transport heat deeper and faster, e.g. more efficiently than dry-air. Briefly put it could promote a more satisfying vaporist experience that measures in seconds rathers than minutes. Lava would stand for something "intense" and "deep", twice!

Brief, intense, spontaneous... More similar to a smoker's cigarette... Day dreaming again, but i know aerial symbiosys with robots is no good solution i can support! Beurk!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

I just make sure I've got a drink before I turn my Plenty on.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

So lemme get this straight. The goal is strictly to inject water vapour into the air travelling to the inlet of the vaporizer unit?
What about a supersonic fog/mister type device? It would be more space and energy efficient IMO. But I'm not a specialist or anything; just a thought

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,
Salutations ChipTrippyFox,

I just make sure I've got a drink before I turn my Plenty on.

Safe move, the nice thing with drinking water is that i won't hurt you until you drown...

...inject water vapour into the air travelling to the inlet of the vaporizer unit?

I do that routinely & naturally using a butane-operated pipe, the difference being that energy is released as butane is burned that creates water. A pre-heater stage capable of standing water vapor would be needed for electric inlet self-conditioning i presume, SiC (Silicon Carbide) may be suitable for the various tasks at hand. If metals are a problem then lets have them encapsulated, at the cost of some trade-off. Whatever it takes to emulate a simple pipe!

What about a supersonic fog/mister type device?

With an IH senario there's plenty of magnetic power waiting to be converted in more than only 1 way. The Curie effect is one aspect, a single IH coil can drive multiple Curie alloys to serve many functions, in short there's a pre-existing resource compatible with an eventual water boiling application... Not to mention this water is sterilized since it's evaporated by heat. So i didn't completely eliminate water nebulization from the picture, it's a matter of convenience while i'd expect cold fog to require UV sterilisation...

...I'm not a specialist or anything; just a thought

As human persons we can't all be specialists of everything and yet i'm one of those who like to self-express opinions and ideas, ask questions and suggest avenues of solution.

Yet i'm worried this is starting to sound like i've forgot the OP's intial message, so i propose further related matters should move there:

BL: Harm Reduction type of modded vaporizer pipe (2015-Apr-15)

To finish on-topic i'd argue again that a smoker or an ex-smoker may fail to find satisfaction with slow machines that require significantly more time & effort when a cigarette doesn't. If we're going to promote healthy vaporism to smokers it could pay to account for their actual habits, so i say that pulling air out of a tube to build-up convective heat hardly corresponds to my idea of a relaxing inhalation. Especially if that would induce caughing urges automatically!

What's a vaporizer's mode of operation and associated ritual? Is that relaxing to you?? Those are factors careful buyers got to put in the balance too, etc.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

The Plenty is definitely not slow or restricted like some other vaporizers, there's quite a large surface area of bud in contact with a large heater, the whip has a reasonable diameter too & does a great job of cooling the vapour. It's far better than any pipe, bong or cigarette, bigger, smoother hits than anything else I've ever used. I think it's that wide diameter filling chamber that makes it my favourite thing ever. I found it's important to have a drink with it otherwise it will dry my throat out a bit. My Hebe Titan 2 can produce some big hits too, it's more pocket friendly, much cheaper & battery powered, but I can taste the cheap Chinese plastic & the vapour is quite hot. I'm thinking of modding my Flowermate, that tastes the best out of the three, but it's more effort, it needs to be packed just right, it gets blocked easily, the filling chamber is quite small & the airflow is quite restricted.

So I'm saving up for a 'Crafty' Storz & Bickel portable.

I smoked for 20 years, but it never even tempts me now, I'm getting a new addiction to buying vaporizers now.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,

It's far better than any pipe...

And yet in my hands it wouldn't rate much higher than the HerbalAire when compared to my modded VG pipe, because it's electric-dry and this renders me miserable.

That would be an eye opener to me if the manufacturer announced some optional accessory to provide what i need most to enjoy cannabic vapor: moisture. Time will tell.

By chance my modded VG pipe is self-moisturizing, just by nature... While the German company appears to be satisfied to please the majority - but a few exceptions like me can hold their breaths. Is that excellence to aim for the easy goal? Also there's this most simple/basic question: where's that ellusive fresh-air inlet located exactly?? Wouldn't that thing inside happen to be a robot which depends on human lungs to ventilate?...

Shocked?

The venerable Volcano does just that it turns out:

They make people with deep pocket$ pull air for their cannabic consumption through a machine! Yay...

Update photographs would be appreciated!...

I'm thinking of modding my Flowermate...

Does it look like this inside?

Many months ago i wrote about the FlowerMate VaporMax somewhere, suggesting it should have its air masses "decoupled" by drilling a generous amount of ventilation holes on the path to the existing ones serving the oven's inlet aperture... That would create a pair of ventilation areas side by side, each with a stronger confinement with its corresponding air mass, to promote weakening of the confinement coupling which exists in this layout:

...I'm getting a new addiction to buying vaporizers now.

That's as good for an obcession as many others i guess. Naturally some future marginal/potential clients like me need to reflect their marginality, who knows some day if those matters are debated often enough somebody somewhere may do something, somehow... Anyway when the opportunity occurs i hope you'll consider posting a couple nice snapshots of your driver with a water accessory clearly displayed for our own amazement, when the timing feels right of course.

Good day, have fun!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

Yeah, it looks similar to that, it's a more recent model with the new logo & 3 temperature settings. I removed the tape, it seemed to have a taste. I replaced the mouthpiece for a glass angled 510 drip tip that isn't so narrow & I removed the screens from it, replaced the top one with a glass screen with a few holes in, that is easier to unblock, left the bottom screen out. I don't think your extra holes would make much difference & it'd draw more air over the batteries. The airflow is restricted by the restrictor plate in the mouthpiece, which I want to drill out a bit & the few small holes in the bottom of the ceramic oven (not sure I want to drill those).

There is a bit of room under the oven on the flowermate, in the storage compartment, I want to drill that piece out at the top of the storage compartment so the inlet air is going through the storage compartment, though another glass 'drip tip', but I'm not sure it'll make much difference really. You could maybe rig up some water mod in the storage compartment?

On the plenty It's pretty much a handheld whip version of the original volcano without the fan, the air inlet is at the bottom, you suck air up through the heater, then through the large flat round filling chamber & through the stainless steel cooling pipe. It meets all German/EU health standards, TÜV approved, the materials are all food safe & don't have any taste. There's hardly any restriction on the airflow at all, it's cooled well too. It's cheaper than a volcano & has an even larger chamber. It is dry, but having a drink solves that for me. It does totally depend on your lungs to breathe in the vapours, but it's not hard. The volcano has a fan in it, it does it's own ventilation & pumps vapour into a bag, as you can see from the diagram you posted.

 

[DrGreenthumb]

Sorry for the double post, but I can't edit that last one...

The Plenty can be very intense, way more intense than any cigarette, pipe or bong & it just keeps going, half a gram (with the oil pad to pack the chamber out) can last 90 minutes. It'll fit a gram in, but then it really needs four people to finish it. I don't want to risk ruining it with any modifications, I bent the whip so it's angled & I can hold the Plenty upright while drawing on it, that's my only mod. The air comes in right around the bottom of the unit, all the sides are ventilated as well as the base, it'd need dismantling to do any mod on the air inlet. It's no robot, it's a heating element, there's nothing really complex or likely to ever go wrong.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,

...it seemed to have a taste.

Perhaps just because it was allowed to happen by design, the schematic i submitted previously represents the "Silicone Sealed Path" inside an E-livi8 and this connects directly to the storage compartment as i recall... That way it was ensured by design that no E-livi8 tape-related contaminants would ever reach the lungs path. Why not FlavorMate??

...I removed the screens from it, replaced the top one with a glass screen...

It sounds like the company stripped down too much or something, while the changes you describe appear to render it sexier, paradoxically. How much did it cost E-livi8 to add a silicone bridge really?! There should be "Deluxe" options from the start anyway!

I don't think your extra holes would make much difference...

It's because i didn't explain sufficiently well but it's true enough that when everything works fine, as in an Arizer, it makes no effective difference in the lungs path indeed. But just as i illustrated with me remark on tape flavour in a FavorMate, euh... See the irony here?? M'well, how about safe/simple fresh-air/cannabic path confinement, away from the venting one?... Unless the machine requires it there's no need for the customer to share the path to his lung with various hardware. No matter how clean i find that "decoupling" the air masses (a last-minute design patch!) wouldn't hurt it neither, in any vaporizer. Of course i'd much prefer the inlet path to be at the base of a concept from the very begining, actually. Spare me louzy contraptions!

...it'd draw more air over the batteries.

So what? Isn't that OKay as long as the batteries and a customer's lungs won't need to share the same air!! 8)

As a matter of fact a lower-temperature environment should prove beneficial for hard-working batteries - and hence ultimately it's owner economically speaking, one might expect.

...I want to drill that piece out at the top of the storage compartment so the inlet air is going through the storage compartment, though another glass 'drip tip', but I'm not sure it'll make much difference really.

Unless you can tolerate tape flavours in your cannabic stream it seems it's a good idea to emulate the E-livi8, especially if you care for catastrophic failure scenarios. If you don't why bother?... Even use silicone instead of glass, etc. Wood in the mouthpiece, whatever! Hard to tell until some hands-on experience is acquired, which is the reason we gather here and share ours.

You could maybe rig up some water mod in the storage compartment?

I wouldn't be surprized to read that E-livi8 and/or FlavorMate got some water-related blue prints in their files. This article was designed by ThermoVape not so long ago:

My vague reminescences only allow me to suppose it's an evaporator system not unlike what i'd want to use myself. Because hot water is sterile and hence there's no need for an UV light, etc., whatever. Perhaphs the TV team thought the same though their clients failed to see the value of this optional item, because a majority of cannabis consumers don't experience difficulties with dry cannabic vapor released electrically. The idea sounds great but i don't recall it received much attention judging from the few reviews from satisfied owners... Because to enjoy it one must have needed it, i would assume.

On the Plenty It's pretty much a handheld whip version... ... It is dry, but having a drink solves that for me.

Having sensitive dryness antennas can ruin the fun, enjoy your luck!

It does totally depend on your lungs to breathe in the vapours, but it's not hard.

I've come to think vaporism should be a succession of a handfull time-compressed packets and musical charting may probably best describe how we could try to analyze these cannabic sessions, in terms of "attack", "sustain" and "decay" periods for starters. Also with other features like power and temperature, plus side-note comments as aroma, taste...

The volcano has a fan in it, it does it's own ventilation & pumps vapour into a bag, as you can see from the diagram you posted.

Yes, and the Volcano owners are especially invited to check on this image where they can find an "Air inlet slot" mark exactly.

This compares to my HerbalAire with a pump in my health path, which i was inspired to remove promptly using negative pressure instead:


YouTube: HerbalAire ShotGun (Bag) Accessory (2011-Mar)

Because at first the new tubes and pump synthetic materials affected my appreciation, then resinous coating accumulated on the surfaces, etc. Lucky me i can even use that vape without bags nor a pump at all!...

The Plenty can be very intense, way more intense than any cigarette, pipe or bong & it just keeps going...

Exactly. It seems we don't understand each other. 1st of all dry air is easier to heat than moist air, e.g. once heated moist air transports more energy than dry air, right?

So, moisture can have a double function: 1) quick/deep heating dry-air can't outperform; 2) efficient life-tested caugh prevention.

In any case must accept that my cigarette comparisons did not work.

I don't want to risk ruining it with any modifications...

Nobody should have to! Not to mention we only have to block whatever looks like an "inlet" port and pull hard to find out if air will arrive from elsewhere... Of course this requires motivation & curiosity a potential client lacks until he starts reading.

Que sera, sera!

...there's nothing really complex or likely to ever go wrong.

Yet that's open to discussion, especially in absence of graphic material to validate such claims.

For example i remember being enthousiastic about the DaVinci Ascent then a report of synthetic smell surfaced: apparently because during their manufacture process those people allowed some amounts of glue to contaminate the heater space, which caused fume issues ultimately. Better confinement measures could have prevented this incident which killed my urge to read more i would say...

The problem with some businesses is that paying customers will have to post negative reviews before more progress can be accomplished; it's not even sure those posts would be properly acknowledged anyway.

By chance there are products as those from 7th Floor which don't force us to commit into some leap of faith when buying. By the way, anyone has got news of the future Vapolution 3, for example?...

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

There's really nothing complex in a Plenty that could go badly wrong, there's no batteries, pump or anything, it's an even simpler design than the Volcano, it's about as close to a 'robot' as a well made German electric kettle. They care about using high quality materials, they get their vaporizers safety tested, there's no glue in them. It's a shame other manufacturers don't take such care. Do you want me to take the side off & take a photo of the inside?

There's no 'inlet port', the whole case of the Plenty is ventilated. It gets over the 'lack of energy' in dry air by having a wide diameter heating chamber & big heating element. No blockages in the air path. It's plenty strong enough & easy to get a lungful. I've no idea how I could mod it to be any better. Maybe if it boiled me some water & made a cup of tea at the same time I'd be interested in modding it.

Vapormax/Flowermate are producing some of the cheapest portable vaporizers around, a quarter the price of the equivilant Storz & Bickel. It's really not terrible for one of the cheapest portables, but there are a few strange design decisions & simple mods to make it better. Other than some catastrophic battery failure & the cheap tape they used on it I can't see many health problems. The tape isn't even needed for anything, it's a tight fit in there anyway & that's the only thing that makes it taste off. My main problem with it is it gets blocked up too easily & it's hard to suck on, those superfine screens are stupid, the holes in the oven & the mouthpiece are too narrow & the mouthpiece is a bad shape, too narrow & collects oil in it. I think I will mod the air inlet to go through the storage part, my new angled mouthpiece wont fit in there anyway. I think adding a water mod to the air inlet without causing some catastrophic failure would take a better engineer than me.

I think I get what you're saying now with the extra holes in the flowermate case if the air inlet is changed, but the only hardware in there that needs to be ventilated is the oven, I think you put your extra holes in the wrong place, they should go all round the side. I'm not sure it'd heat the batteries up too much anyway without any extra holes or air being sucked over the outside of the oven. The aluminium case seems to dissipate heat well.

The Titan 2 has a nice decent sized steel oven on it, but the whole thing reeks of cheap Chinese plastic & glue, I might totally dismantle it & build something better. I'm not sure that I got a genuine Titan 2 either, maybe the original is less bad, but the plastic taste seems a universal complaint. It does have digital temperature controls, a good oven & a battery, so I could make some kind of new case for it.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,

They care...

I'll know that they do when they prove in durable and tangible form that they actually care if i care myself that they would, euh...

Do you want me to take the side off & take a photo of the inside?

Please don't volunteer for anything you weren't comfortable doing in the 1st place. Of course i can be your audience but i'd hate to cause an incident you might not be prepared to assume. Also lets keep in mind i always write with future readers in mind, as it's a pleasure to discuss though somehow i find that even more desirable to make provisions for an eventual contact, when a reader wants to, once ready.

So, considering i'm sure to fail being around forever i'm satisfied enough to reason that i've left my bit of testimony, hoping this to ignite its fair share of discussions if/when appropriate for a situation, eventually.

There's no 'inlet port', the whole case of the Plenty is ventilated.

Hummm... Yet one side could be reserved for hardware ventilation (if it must) while its internal "fresh-air" inlet port happens to reside on the opposite face, which would effectively "decouple" the air masses a great deal, IMO. Unfortunately i can equally think of much less appealing possibilities as far as i'm concerned, no way to tell but thanks for that precise information in any case. Good for you if the Plenty meets your expectations!

Vapormax/Flowermate... ... I think adding a water mod to the air inlet without causing some catastrophic failure would take a better engineer than me.

Too bad the NASA boys got busy working with the BOSS and they chose an halogen heat source, plus how much moisture do you realistically think i would require anyway??

I know bubblejet printers don't heat all of the ink before they start doing their wonders: unless i'm wrong such machines implement heat on-demand, 1 single ink bubble at a time it would appear! ... The wonders they accomplish these days!...

8)

...I think you put your extra holes in the wrong place... The aluminium case seems to dissipate heat well.

Anything is possible, i wasn't able to extract much related information when this was on topic elsewhere, months ago. There's a vertical depression resulting from the contour inbetween 2 batteries, i was under the impression this could be exploited to consolidate the air mass in that area, close to an auxiliary screen somewhere. Perhaps a twin copy of the oven's existing screen, or maybe not. You tell me!

Personally i'd even want my hypothetical "auxiliary" (ventilation) screen to be located as far as possible from the fresh-air inlet site to be exact. Even if it's only serving a purpose during catastrophic failure events.

...reeks of cheap Chinese... ... It does have digital temperature controls.

Hummm... Beware as there are digital readouts with no real temperature reading as there's not even a proper sensor to be found in those products! Shit happens...



Whatever comes out please consider sharing your findings, good or bad. This is not a place of omnipotent science and we're all capable of human dialogue, with irresistible curiosity. So i'd welcome pictures should you feel like it, sure! Anyway you wish.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

It seems to be a proper digital temperature control/readout on the Titan 2, at least the figures match the vapour density. Just a shame they didn't use better materials for the case & mouthpiece or it'd be an awesome little cheap vape. I haven't noticed any taste or smell from the plastics used in the Flowermate, so I've no idea why the manufacturer chose to use such crap plastic on the Titan 2, it must just be penny pinching.

I looked on the Plenty & it's torx security screws, so I can't take it apart without buying a special screwdriver. There's a logo sticker on the front across the line between the two halves of the shell too, I don't want to mess that up either. There is very little hardware to ventilate, so I don't even know what you mean, it's just a stainless steel heating element, mechanical thermometer/temperature switch, small light, a time switch, an on/off switch & a deadman trigger switch. The only thing being ventilated is the heater & your herb. It's very simple technology, nothing that could leak, off-gas or anything really. They proved they care about using safe materials by getting it TUV certified, as far as I know they're the only manufacturer who's vaporizers meet any kind of independent safety standards.

It seems possible to use the plenty with a bong if damp vapour is your thing & there's no problem with the amount of vapour it produces.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,

...I don't even know what you mean...

Lets admit i've got to wonder as well what that could be.

...TUV certified...

This argument was made before, there are people obviously satisfied with it though i guess i must be among those who wouln't.

It seems possible to use the Plenty with a bong...

So that shiny hose comes handy after all!

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DrGreenthumb]

They don't have to get their vaporizers tested, they could just manufacture it in Canada or China as a novelty pot pourri warmer or something & have no independent testing at all, like every other vaporizer manufacturer. TUV organisations have a good reputation for ensuring safety. The materials they used are totally odour & taste free too, unlike lots of other vaporizers.

The shiny hose is awesome for cooling the vapour if you're not using a bong, it's designed just right to cool it down to about body temperature, but you'd remove that to use the plenty with a bong, then it'll fit straight into a connector for a glass downstem. I'm not sure it'd be any better than the old heatgun & bong setup, but you need quite a large bong for that to work well.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations DrGreenthumb,

...potpourri warmer or something...

My Arizer V-Tower was packed exactly like this:


BL: I just bought my first vaporizer!(IT'S HERE!) [2015-Apr-11]

That's on page 1. So, when i write this all i mean is the picture displayed above came out of my Kodak Z915 the day i got my hands on this "PotPourri Warmer", as marked on the box.

...

My type of ideal configuration in terms of fresh-air/cannabic paths probably corresponds best to the Vaponic (formerly VapBong) or perhaps the future Vapolution 3... M'well, more than anything Arizer anyway!! It's just a personal preference, i can't rationalize having to share my lungs with hardware for some obscure reason. But no thanks, really i mean it! Though the Arizer V-Tower i gave away could have worked as a modded VG sphere pre-warmer i'm sure...


BL: Harm Reduction type of modded vaporizer pipe [2015-Apr-12]

It does help me focus on inhalation rather than pre-heating when using my modded VG pipe.

The shiny hose is awesome...

The german manufacturer made that flexible tube a feature but it's opaque and certainly not as affordable as ordinary food-grade (aquarium) PVC tubing found in a local store. At least i can tell i'd find it hard to justify switching from a simple solution to some "shiny hose" as that! The surface gets coated relatively quickly anyway, after a short while the odor/taste of freshly made plastic just vanishes. That's no worst than having plenty of hot metal in the path i guess, euh...

So, i'm simply saying the clear/flexible PVC tube from my modded VG pipe got old and yet i see no signs that might cause me to want a change so far:


BL: Harm Reduction type of modded vaporizer pipe [2014-Sep-4]

Its material only went somewhat darker with time.

As i wrote before the glassware is all i can stand from Arizer. My Solo bent tubes match HerbalAire's (2.1) crucible nicely, it's perfect to reshape the balance of heat modes in that machine which has a "locomotive" side plus it cooks deep. But this is electric-dry and hence my pipe contraption becomes an option with self-moisturizing and sturdiness i find much more appropriate, while Arizer's Solo Glass Stem still fails to offer that much when it could have silicone shock-absorbers to begin with, for example:


BL: Harm Reduction type of modded vaporizer pipe [2014-Jun-5]


BL: Harm Reduction type of modded vaporizer pipe [2014-Jun-20]

It doesn't even cost a bunch to protect fragile materials. Then comes the Plenty... It may provide some degree of air-mass decoupling though your feedback sounded inconclusive on this particular feature when our vaporist lungs should be able to trust it unconditionally.

In any case good day, have fun!!