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RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

Well I'm emotionally unstable, meaning I cried a couple of times for no apparent reason. Also a bit tired, was sweating a lot during the night. Nothing really bad, but definitely worse than what I am used to from other stimulants. I assume it's all gonna be over within a few days. Can't say I ever had a hard time withdrawing stimulants at all. The increased appetite hasn't kicked in yet, but then again I took 50mg orally this morning so I'd function well enough to spend 8 hour in the wildlife park with my daughter.

It's just... These last weeks are a complete haze. I would really have to look into the calendar to get a rough idea how much time passed by. THis is really remarkable considering my intoxicated state was much less obvious to people around me than it would be during a phase of amphetamine abuse (this does't go for those ~400mg shots obviously). A few more things popped up that have been erased from my phone and I am still a lot more disorganized and forgetful than I usually am.


EDIT: I was in a hurry earlier and forgot to mention that the paresthesia and hypesthesia have not improved. I'm currently just fine with 40mg Loperamide, 3000mg Ibuprofen and 25-50mg Diclofenac.
It is gonna be very interesting to see if it goes into remission or not.

Whatever is gonna happen, I honestly don't think we can get away with using this substance on a regular basis, especially not intravenously. One cardiovascular incident (thrombosis), all these tactile issues, the exacerbation of my chronic pain, psychosis, amnesia, temporal disorientation... Shit.

Sure, most of these things can be blamed on
A) pre-existing conditions (chronic pain, bipolar disorder I)
B) excessive doses/frequency of use
C) route of administration (intravenous injections)

But still... It's not the first substance I used this way. On the stimulant side, only MDPV seemed to be as unhealthy on an emotional level. Somatically though, I don't think my body has ever taken such toll during any episode of heavy drug use, not even during my heaviest episode of ketamine abuse.

We are looking at an extremely euphoric substance here, at least that's how it presented itself to me. It wasn't as acutely reinforcing as cocaine, but sub-acutely (next morning) I can not remember ever having experienced such overwhelming cravings. I started the day trying to get all the shit done I would need to get done till my next mandatory sleep cycle so I could start using as early in the day as possible (said sleep cycle being mandatory the night before I'd have my daughter over which is twice per week. I had to skip that the last week when things just spun way out of control though).

The only thing that should really worry us is the potential neurotoxicity. There might not be a causal relationship, but we should still watch out for this. I forgot to mention that I kept throwing things over to a degree that was nothing short of ridiculous, between uses! I am talking spilling coke over my brand new keyboard four days in a row, managing to throw over 5-10 beverages total on some days... And that forgetfulness... I'd search for something for 10 minutes, find it and a few seconds later it would be gone again. Over and over and over. I've always been a little disorganized and again, keep in mind my doses were excessive, but toxicity is much less likely to show at low doses. I've never been seriously concerned about acute toxicity of the drugs I've used. We should just keep our eyes and ears open for more reports like mine.

EDIT2: My buddy just called and told me he won't make it tonight. Apparently we had planned for him to come over not only during a phone call we had last night. Wiped. Just completely wiped. So fucking embarassing (especially since none of my closest friends use drugs).
 
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Woah bro, good detail and advice in that, it was fun for a bit but last time I hardly felt it and who knows what it does to your body, sound not too good though, take it easy man, :)
 
Hi ! I used 3-FPM crystal a week ago with no side effects apart from my i can feel my hearts beating on my chest since i used it. So how long does it take to get rid of the 3-fpm from the body completely ? Thanx
 
Hi psood0nym ! Ive used 3-fpm crystal a week a go but since then i started to feel my heart beats a bit stronger though my chest. Am sure its because of the 3-fpm, so how long doest it take to get the this drug from the body completely u reckon ? Kind Regards !
 
crOOk said:
I just read that. Oh thank god for a person confirming something I say, I have been rather delusional these last few weeks, embarassing shit!!

Since I do not feel like a total hypochndriac delusional fool anymore now, I will take this one step further. I have kinda witheld this since I wasn't sure how strong the correlation was and I didn't want to cause any panic where there is no cause for such.

I have had steadily progressing polyneuropathis in my arms and legs since I started using this. Like I said before, I've been in chronic pain for 13 years and some parethesia is not that unusual. This however had me visit a doctor about it for the first time in over 10 years and actually decided to go see a pain specialist now. Just before I wrote this I was in such pain I could've screamed. There is hypoesthesia all over my fingers (numbness as if there was dried glue over the skin) and on top of the ever-present tingling on my left arm there are bouts of paraesthesia without a warning that grow in intensity for a few seconds and can really make me break down. The tingling and numbness in legs and feet is negligible, but have also had said bouts on both sides, but only when I walk around.

I guess the details aren't really that important and I know I am very prone to this, but I would be a fool to exclude a direct correlation. Toxic polyneuropathies are just not that unusual and our nerves are very sensitive to sudden changes of blood flo, which we probably all agree 3F-P is likely to induce without having any numbers at hand. ;)

@infantannihilato
Did you ever dose as high as I did? I used 480mg in the largest shot, but had to abort those 2/3 in on other 'occasions' (an example for an "occasion" being coming of the last dose).

However, it IS a good rush lol. I am kinda laughing at my own stupidity here btw, so pointing it out again and again will neither have any effect other than lowering my frequency of contributions to the community.

@foolsgold
Do you nod and wake up witnissinng yourself talking to someone you know? I often finish whole sentences despite having already come to the realization. Despite having no recollection of last night, I could swear I was here with someone. Looking further into my system logs, there is so vague sense of being responsible for the content in those logs. However it feels much more real that I was with someone, which I can say with greatest certainty I was not, looking at the evidence.
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yeah you lose weeks to this stuff with out warning glad i tried it its helped kick i am bad enough with out another mdpv style habit
 
any one tried the 3fpm\mpa blend one if vendors is selling im getting a sample with my order
 
pedro9090 said:
Hi dalai lara ! Wat u meant exactley by lightweights ? Thanx
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What he meant to say is that he could easily mainline 1 gram without adverse effects which makes him a manly man and foolsgold and me his bitches.

pedro9090 said:
Hi ! I used 3-FPM crystal a week ago with no side effects apart from my i can feel my hearts beating on my chest since i used it. So how long does it take to get rid of the 3-fpm from the body completely ? Thanx
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It's called anxiety. Relax. :) It's should be almost completely out of your system by now, extrapolating phenmetrazine's pharmacokinetics.


Btw I was again sweating like a pig the 2nd night without which is really unexpected considering the stimulant nature of the substance. Third day, no tiredness worth mentioning, no affective irregularities, healthy appetite, no incidents of amnesia since I stopped, so it's all good really. Paresthesia unchanged though, maybe slightly better (the latter of which would be much more worrysome in respect to gaining a vague idea about the safety profile of this substance).
 
i can sit snort 20 g of mpa in a sitting if i felt like it :) fucking lightweight christ i wish i would not spend stupid amounts of money :)

got 3 g of this coming in the morning in Chrystal from only had the powder so far any one notice any difference
 
Thanks for your write-ups, crOOk.

Although I've only used this at lower doses (Always starts at 50-100mg - although there have been nights where I may as well have stuck a straw in the bag and snorted the whole lot - Eaten, snorted, plugged, etc.) there are definite absolute cravings for it daily and I've used it daily, or several times daily, at work or in the office. Stopping using it seems only temporary (oh, I've had a bad day, I DESERVE some tonight) so I'll be glad when I've used up my supply, although I'm sure I'll end up re-ordering it.

I have mostly only had positive outcomes (happy feelings) on this substance but one day a month or so ago I was sad and had to make a decision about something, so chewed through some before work to elevate my mood but the opposite happened. Instead of the happy feelings I was expecting it enhanced my current mood, which was sadness. I was talking to a colleague while having a cigarette before work and almost burst into tears.

So if you're in a relatively neutral mood 3FPM may well elevate it but if you're stressed, panicked, sad or whatever then it may well enhance THAT mood instead.
 
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To move away from the posts about crazy, excessive prolonged abuse of massive doses for a bit - my experience has been snorting or oral doses a couple of times a week for the last 2 weeks. Not more than about 35mg at a time or more than 100mg throughout the day. Mostly very mild side stimulant effects and no cravings on off days. The snorting ROA is pretty compulsive though and I end up with quite a bit of blood up there the next day.

Low doses really just seems to work as a pure stimulant, waking me right up for a good few hours with a slight mood lift and little to no anxiety and jitters. Only seemed to give a mild boost in productivity and concentration, but good enough at keeping distractions at bay. No bouncing around feeling super motivated, crazy hyper focus or increased creativity like amphetamine.

Even low doses of amp make me feel shitty after a few hours so I really liked this at first for the ultra-smooth comedown. But, the dehydration and need for frequent urination on this stuff is absolutely driving me mad. Peeing like a horse every 20 minutes, plus additional urges to go with no resulting release. This is a problem for me on a lot of substances but with 3F-PM it's just ridiculous. So for this reason alone I've decided it just can't be used with any regularity as a functional stim. Otherwise I would find this one super helpful for sleep deprived, sluggish days. But the toilet issue puts this one in the toilet for me.
 
First time poster. Hi all. Thank you to all who have shared experieces. Here is mine: I have a substantial thesis to write. I'm in the uk and don't have access to adhd medication. I've been using modafinil to get by the last few years, an increased stressful job/research/life. Two weeks Ago, in desperation, I order 3,4 ctmp. I had used ritalin before and it had been instrumnetAl I allowing me to do writing work. I used 10mg ctmp every day and wrote 30000 words in the last few weeks - and became a full time smoker again. Now 34 ctmp just got banned. I only have a few weeks to finish so ordered 3fpm. Been using this the last three days. It has had a negative effect on me. I'm a creative person with dyslexia. The ctmp allowedr to lock in and write without distractions. 3ftp has made me even more distractable and incoherent in thought. I have also started getting weird scary feelings in my body, over my left chest mainly. I have called the Dr and seeing him next week. I have 1g left and in two minds to throw it away or try to use it try Support to finish my thesis. As I'm not sure I can do it without something to add focus. But, as a normally very fit 35 year old, I'm also feeling quite anxious and freaked out by weird slight discomforts in my chest. Anyway, that's where I'm at. Hopefully it will be useful to somebody else and perhaps it suggests 'productivity' has become way out of control in our current times. Anyway, stay safe.
 
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