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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 2

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I recently found myself at the end of my 4-HO-MET supply and decided to just take it all in one dose. I weighed it out and it ended up being 53mg. I parachuted it and licked the bag. An hour later I was in the middle of one of the craziest trips of my life. Reality got really sketchy. My surrounding became a world of flash colors and geometric shapes. Green being the main color of the night (usually I get a lot of red hues). There wasn't much deep thought that I usually get from tryptamines. I think I was just to immersed in the visuals. It was just a whole lot of fun. I even got that mushroom afterglow type feeling for a couple of days. It seems like a great substance for a nice mental reset. This trip definitely put this substance at the top of my psychedelics list. If I can get my hands on more I'd really like to explore 4-HO-MET in depth.
 
I tried this a few times now @ 15, 20, 25 mg, I still like 4-ho-mipt much better... It feels better warmer and smother inside me then 4-HO-MET... I do like it too, but not as much as 4-ho-mipt.. My batch is 5 years old and still going strong.
I Still haven't tried 4-h0-DMT... hopefully soon I'm told
 
Alriiight, another one who favors miprocin. That stuff is bomb, yo!
 
OK I'm back haha.

As you remember (or not) I was going to eat 50mg of HOMET with my friend. Well, we did this. Despite you guys told me that I shouldn't worry about cross tolerance we decided to eat some DXM before the actual HOMET trip. I took 150mg of DXM and my buddy did 225 as he is bigger. We went to a shopping mall and waited about one hour until we felt that DXM is working. I experienced some typical DXM effects. Little euphoria, light body and something what I like most - being 'out of place'. I felt that everything what was going around us was a part of a bigger plan an we're just observers. Nothing to talk about, typical DXM effects. Of course we did not have any robowalking or problems with speaking as the dose was very low.

Then we took 50mg of HOMET and went back to the shopping mall as it was quite cold outside and we decided to spend our trip just walking down the city. I was prepared for at least 30 minutes till HOMET starts working but it was no more than 10 minutes when I felt the increasing euphoria somewhere around my stomach (I always have that feeling on HOMET). We were in an electronic shop and I was looking at 3D TVs when I noticed my vision is slightly changed and the colours are becoming much more vivid. We decided to get out of the shopping mall and went to a park nearby. I must say we did this just about the time because when I found myself outside I felt like struck by lighting. My vision was totally changed, I felt so light that I thought I'd start flying, we were both laughing and going to the park. And this is the place when I experienced the most real and massive hallucinations ever in my life. We sat on a bench and were surrounded by trees. Every tree was bending, floating and breathing, their branches were surrounding me. I felt extremely good just sitting there and looking at all that beautiful stuff. My friend who took HOMET for the 1st time looked fascinated too. We tried talking but I couldn't focus on something else than bending trees. We were sitting there for about 15 minutes, maybe less and decided that our mission on the trip will be reaching the ruins of a castle as we felt we may really enjoy the atmosphere of the place. But it wasn't that easy. We walked around 30 meters and I felt like Raoul Duke in Las Vegas. The floor was melting and we were laughing almost all the time. That strong hallucinations lasted maybe 20 minutes more and from this point I saw nothing but enhanced colours.

We both had moments when we couldn't express ourselves but I think this was caused by DXM. I was really disappointed when the hallucinations ended. Yeah, I did feel mentally stimulated but I have never considerd HOMET influence on thinking as something 'deep' or 'insightful'. My friend experienced massive CEVs as he told me. After ~3 hours we decided to go home. When I got home I felt completely sober, however my pupils were still huge but after 30 minutes even them became normal.

So, it was beautiful but yet a bit disappointing trip. Beautiful because I had massive hallucinations like never before and it was amazing but it lasted too short. For me, the real trip lasted about 1 hour, later I became bored of HOMET because nothing interesting happened. The conclusion is that I will never take HOMET without DXM as I think that HOMET alone is shallow and certainly not that visual when you take some DXM earlier. Next time I'll probably go for 300mg DXM and 50mg of HOMET.

Cheers!
 
Does anyone else have super short trips like that on this chemical? It sounds a lot like my experience.
 
Metocin lasts about 7 hours for me, but my roommate can sleep easy after only four while I stay up... clearly it effects everyone differently.
 
Well I just tried 50 with my girl and it was nice, but not at all a satisfying trip. Only really lasted 3 hours other than minor trails and such. Loose math on tolerance I'm thinking it was about 40 mg worth. I'm a hardhead, but it seems strange that it's taking so much to feel so little. We're gonna try 60 next, two or three weeks from now. Does anyone else need quantities like these?
 
I do. What I get is 1 up to 2 hours of the actual trip with nice visuals etc. and then that horrible empty stimulation for at least 4 hours. Maybe do what I've done and try some DXM before, even less than 150mg.
 
My -met trips have always been right around the length of all other 4 subs, 5.5-7.5 hours.
 
Higher doses (+20mg) always last 6-8hours for me. I always fast 4-6 hours before dropping.
 
Just tried metocin yesterday, started with 18-20mg oral.
Came up in a little under an hour, music took on an amazing quality, but only got an enhancement in acuity on terms of visual effects.
Not quite where I wanted to be, I smoked a bowl of some potent indica, which made things very nice, but still not much visually, which has me confused because from reading the BDs on this stuff it's described as heavily visual and not much else. I did get the 'not much else though', little headspace, some heavy laughter.
At about t+2.00 hours I weighed out another 10mg which I insufflated, taking me to a lovely space, with some blurring, slight movement in my periphery. Had milkdrop running to a mix by Tim Bryant which was mind blowing, the wall on which it was projecting was folding and moving with the designs. Very cool, but didn't last very long.
The experience after this was rather drawn out, with residual stimulation made enjoyable by smoking copious amounts of weed, got nice effects from a hybrid strain. Lasted about eight hours from first dose, with the peak over about four hours in, drawn out due to the booster dose.
I'm thinking of trying again next weekend with around 35mg, supplemented by a low dose (10-20mg) of mxe. Do people think this will be a good dose for a worthwhile experience? Hoping that the mxe will help bring out visuals, or at least make it more worthwhile if the metocin ends up being underwhelming again.
 
Have any of y'all kept your 4-ho-met stored at room temp for 6+ months? Have you noticed any degradation?
 
I've had all my 4 subs for 5-6 months now and have noticed no degradation

Stored at room temp tightly sealed
 
^Good to hear. It's been a while since I've tried mine and I was worried it might have degraded. My bedroom gets a bit warm though sometimes... Hope it's alright.
 
Have any of y'all kept your 4-ho-met stored at room temp for 6+ months? Have you noticed any degradation?

I have some Tryptamines (4-HO-MET/MiPT; 4-ACO-DMT/DiPT) stored over 2 years. Still active, no degradation except a change in color for the 4-ACO-DMT.
 
Just tried metocin yesterday, started with 18-20mg oral.
Came up in a little under an hour, music took on an amazing quality, but only got an enhancement in acuity on terms of visual effects.
Not quite where I wanted to be, I smoked a bowl of some potent indica, which made things very nice, but still not much visually, which has me confused because from reading the BDs on this stuff it's described as heavily visual and not much else. I did get the 'not much else though', little headspace, some heavy laughter.
At about t+2.00 hours I weighed out another 10mg which I insufflated, taking me to a lovely space, with some blurring, slight movement in my periphery. Had milkdrop running to a mix by Tim Bryant which was mind blowing, the wall on which it was projecting was folding and moving with the designs. Very cool, but didn't last very long.
The experience after this was rather drawn out, with residual stimulation made enjoyable by smoking copious amounts of weed, got nice effects from a hybrid strain. Lasted about eight hours from first dose, with the peak over about four hours in, drawn out due to the booster dose.
I'm thinking of trying again next weekend with around 35mg, supplemented by a low dose (10-20mg) of mxe. Do people think this will be a good dose for a worthwhile experience? Hoping that the mxe will help bring out visuals, or at least make it more worthwhile if the metocin ends up being underwhelming again.

Combination of 4HOMET and MXE is very nice, gave me a ++++ once.
There were no visuals though... everything was white light. I couldn't see anymore in the classical sense ; eyes closed or open, looking at my hand or the wall or the computer screen, everything was white light. :) Frightening at first, then I surrenderd (sp?) to it and was greeted with unconditional Love.

3 keywords to keep it enjoyable: water, water and water.
 
Combination of 4HOMET and MXE is very nice, gave me a ++++ once.
There were no visuals though... everything was white light. I couldn't see anymore in the classical sense ; eyes closed or open, looking at my hand or the wall or the computer screen, everything was white light. :) Frightening at first, then I surrenderd (sp?) to it and was greeted with unconditional Love.

3 keywords to keep it enjoyable: water, water and water.

Woahh, sounds intense. What kind of doses/roa have you done with this combo? How much did it take to get you to a ++++?
Edit: should I also stagger the doses, or take both at the same time? The metocin lasts fairly long on me, so I'd think to take it maybe an hour before mxe
 
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I've also done both 4-ho-met + mxe and 4-aco-met + mxe, multiple times. You need less of each for sure, and the ratio depends on what kind of experience you're going for. I haven't taken these orally in a while, but I'd say 12mg -met and 30mg mxe would be a good starting point, both oral. Plugged, 15mg mxe and 7mg -met gets me to a pretty good state where I'm not tripping super hard, but feel 100% connected with the universe and feel the tripping aspect completely.
 
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