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Just quit opiates cold turkey- Looking for support or a buddy to stay sober with

1fastgsxr

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Hey bluelighters,
Looking for some support...maybe someone going through the same thing in hopes we can help each other out.

I'm in my late 20's, I have a great family, great friends, my dream job...everything I could ask for. Well, maybe a little debt due to student loans, bad financial choices in my late teens, and recently a recreational drug habit that has gotten a little out of control. That, and I'm single while all my friends are married or engaged... but that's the least of my concerns...I think I have to get my life together before I start getting another person involved.

This part might be a little long but I feel it's relevant to my story. If you don't have the time or patience, scroll down near the bottom bolded section.
Little background, I started smoking weed around 12...drinking alcohol shortly there after. Smoked cigarettes like a chimney. No, I do not blame marijuana as a gateway drug, but I did have easy access to it and it provided me with the escape I was looking for. I was a troubled teen; luckily never ended up arrested or in any major trouble. I sold marijuana and various drugs for years; mostly because it provided me with a generous income that trumped my BS retail job and allowed me to afford my heavy weed habit. I got a rush out of it too.
In retrospect, I was always a little depressed and had serious anger management problems. I have been running from my issues my entire life. I dabbled with various drugs...pills, psychedelics, anything I could get my hands on. I (luckily) never got hooked on anything longterm however, I think I was just "addicted" to the escape I got from reality. I had a little stint with cocaine which was tough to get free from, but I haven't touched the stuff or had any cravings since. I also smoked cigarettes for several years from my early teens to college but I quit cold turkey. Boy was that tough.... after several years I rarely get cravings. I rarely have a cigarette if I'm out drinking, but it ends up making me sick and I never want to touch one again.

Flash forward, I barely graduated high school because I thought it was a waste of time. I stopped caring. As stupid as my decisions were, I was actually pretty smart (maybe a bit too smart for my own good). I managed to forge some doctor's notes and manipulate my way through. With the help of my awesome mother, I got accepted into a decent state university. I got my own place on campus and out of no where, the weed I once loved started causing intense paranoia. I quit smoking all together and did the typical college binge drinking thing. I didn't do so hot my first year in college, mostly due to laziness. I began partying on the weekends and alcohol became so enjoyable that I found myself having a tall glass of vodka when I woke up, hitting up any party I could find, and finishing off every night with another tall glass of vodka just to sleep. I even had a few drinks at my shitty job merely because it put me in such a good mood. I even got employee of the month at the time; a time where I was secretly a functional alcoholic.

Well, things soon changed for me...shortly after I moved back home for the summer, one of my parents died unexpectedly. I was devastated. My life went from happy-go-lucky to a complete standstill. My life could have gone two directions...either I continue my path of self destruction or I use it as a wake up all. I chose the latter, I got myself together. I quit drinking and chose the path of sobriety. I met a wonderful man who I began dating. He was my rock during the hardest time of my life. We moved in together and I didn't touch a sip of alcohol or a single drug for an entire year. I still had issues, I was angry and bitter; I was mad at the world and I felt robbed for losing a parent without reason and without warning. I found a new coping mechanism; exercise. I became obsessed and turned it into a temporary career. I felt like a new person and looking back on my old self I couldn't believe I was the same person. My boyfriend was so supportive and he was an absolute crutch for me at this time. After a little over a year, I felt I was healthy enough to indulge in alcohol from time to time. I never again fell back into my alcoholic ways. Sure, there were some nights I overdid it, but I think we're all guilty of that. Still to this day, I have a pretty healthy relationship with alcohol...only on social occasions with friends, never on my own to cope with my problems.

During my college years I really got my shit together, graduated with 2 bachelor's, made the dean's list, and finished with a 4.0. When everyone was out partying, I was studying and spending time at home with my loving boyfriend. We have since split mostly due to my decision... I wanted to focus on my career and focus on myself as well. He was older and ready for marriage while I was still finding myself; I loved him to pieces but the timing just wasn't right. I can't thank him enough for helping me through some of the most difficult times of my life.

Flash Forward to reason for this post:

Well, I successfully landed my dream job! Just a few months out of college! I couldn't be happier. For privacy sake, I won't disclose my career but I work long hours and my job is extremely stressful. I've been there 3 years now and I've gotten nothing but praise in a position where new-graduates RARELY start out in. Definitely a sink or swim type of job that typically requires experience; Luckily, I picked things up quickly and have been told by my supervisor that I have exceeded expectations as a new-grad and have become one of their strongest team members. What's not to be happy about?

Well, for whatever reason I started messing around with opiates a little over a year ago. It started with a few percocets prescribed for an injury. 20 or 30 maybe...not an asinine amount that some people "accidentally" get hooked with. I'd had surgeries years back as well as dental work where I've had access to pain killers, and although I have a tendency to take more than prescribed to get a little buzz, I never sought after more or got hooked. I don't even have any friends who use drugs so I didn't even get introduced that way....

I can't recall exactly, maybe i was just having some aches and pains or was just curious, but I knew of someone who had access to various drugs. I randomly hit him up one day and ended up buying some oxycodone. I started out just taking 7.5mg or 15mg tops and got a good buzz. I ended up contacting the guy sporadically for a few 30mg tabs so I could use them to zone out during a tattoo session. I would never take more than one dose a day and my tolerance was very low. I used once or twice a week and that was it, just to zone out and relax. I remember the days when I would take 15mg and get sick from it. 8)

I never felt addicted, never had WD symptoms, and I could go weeks without using it. Worked for me since I was barely spending money and my tolerance was low so I could enjoy my small supply for a long time. I can't even tell you how it happened because I was always strict with my usage and I was always in control... but it got a hold of me. My usage became more and more frequent. A few time I dosed several times in one day. I didn't like the feeling, I would get stomach troubles (like my whole GI system just slowed down and nothing was digesting). I would feel sick, and I would get constipated. I stuck to my guns of only using once a day for that reason but as time went on that fell to the wayside. I was using more each each, and dosing several times a day. Even times when I would feel so sick and constipated... and even times when I would get urinary retention to the point I thought I would need to go to the ER to get catheterized (thank god that never happened).

Over the past few months I've spent about $1,000 on opiates. Mostly oxycodone and occasionally dilaudid. I've even gotten so low to where I have IV'ed and I SWORE I would never do that. Still, my drug of choice is oxycodone, usually orally and occasionally plugging. I went from 7.5-15mg in one occasional dose to get a great buzz, to 60-75mg a dose every few hours. Lately I was using 300mg a day. Never in a million years did I think it would get to this point.

I ran out and my source is currently dry. I've been clean for 4 days now. I had a nasty chest infection about 6 days ago and was being treated with antibiotics. I was feeling better when suddenly I started to feel like I had the flu...body aches, I was in bed for several days, couldn't work, felt weak, cold sweats, hot flashes, etc. At first I though the bug I had was progressing, but it actually seems like withdrawals.

I feel exhausted, depressed, and downright disappointed in myself. I did a light workout today but barely had the energy to do much of anything. It's a start though...I plan on sticking to my exercise regime to get myself through this. I feel alone, I'm too embarrassed to tell any of my family or friends so that's why I'm turning to you guys. Like I said... none of my friends are users and I just don't think they'd understand. Drug use is unfortunately looked down upon as a sign of weakness by the general public. I'm just hoping I can get through this and never look back. It's been over a decade of self medicating and I'm long overdue to face reality sober.

I slept through the first few days of sobriety... and I've been using naproxen for my aches/pains, valium to keep me stabilized and keep anxiety/irritability at bay. I'm getting the sneezing and drippy nose but it's tolerable. I want to manage this on my own if possible.... I'm open to some OTC or herbal supplements but the less the better. I don't think I need inpatient treatment or any support groups for two reasons: 1) my work schedule probably wouldn't allow it 2) I get social anxiety and have a fear of speaking in public.

I'm hoping someone can reach out to me, either individually or collectively so I can get through this. I think I'm already on the right path but i know this won't be easy. :(

Thanks for listening
 
Welcome to BL. Yes, those are definitely withdrawal symptoms. 4 days, that's great! I myself would cave pretty much the next day. Sounds like you are on the right path.
 
I'm doing (yet another) detox starting tuesday. If you want someone for mutual support I would like that.


medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal
 
Awesome! Go you! As much as I need my own support, I really love helping others. Sometime's just knowing you have someone to reach out to can be so helpful. Feel free to PM me so we can get in touch. I'm still learning the ropes on the forum here. Thanks for the resources...all this research can help with the boredom.

Thank you everyone for the support! You're all amazing, it's great to see a community like this, especially with a population of people like us that are generally considered low-lifes by the general public. Everyone has their demons, right?

I'm doing (yet another) detox starting tuesday. If you want someone for mutual support I would like that.


medications for acute opiate detox

The medications I would explore the use of for detox would be:
>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE< >here<
OR >Lyrica<
OR >phenibut<

>A BENZO BUT JUST AT NIGHT<
>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol
Senokot S is a stool softener and laxative. If you do not want the laxative you can go for strait stool softenerDioctyl sodium sulfosuccinate.

(Opi Withdrawal) what is the best comfort meds for opiate w/d?

Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal
 
So how's it going, 1fast? Hanging in?

You mentioned wanting to find a 'buddy' to detox with... I'm looking for the same. I can PM you more biographical details, but I think we're in pretty similar situations. Very similar, actually. Cutting to the chase, I'm on day 12 without heroin and it really, really sucks.

Hope you're feeling OK.
-Sim
 
After posting my previous message, I thought: why not send the details for all to see? Feel free to ignore... I'm just trying to communicate my background and situation in case they resonate with others.

I'm a guy in my 40s, with a very straight, very intense job. Until about two years ago, illegal drugs were barely on my radar. Yeah, I smoked pot now and then, but that was it. I do have--and have had--a benzo (clonazepam) prescription for years. I rely on the clonnies, but have managed never to abuse them. For some reason, I'd always been interested in heroin. Not sure why. I guess I saw it as holding potential for a profound release from anxiety and stress.

Well, a couple years ago, a source came my way so that it was easy for me to get my hands on heroin. And I started using it. Aware of the risks involved, I kept myself to a strict set of rules about using. The gist of 'the rules' was that I could use no more than once every two weeks. And that actually worked OK. I *did* OD once, which was of course completely fucked. But the rules kept the frequency of use to a manageable scale.

Then things changed. The change was really subtle. Over time, I got more confident in my ability to control the drug, so I let myself use a little more often from time to time. I felt like I was still using good restraint. But I came to realize that even though I didn't have a physical dependency, I had gotten to a point where I *thought* about dope all the time. Ultimately, I reached the point where I was using a few times a week for about six weeks. When I ended that indulgence, I had my first physical WD, much as the OP describes. And that really freaked me out, so I committed to stopping. It's now been 12 days since I got high.

That's where I'm at now. Still trying to figure out if I'm quitting 'forever.' But I'm committed to at least a month of being clean. Hopefully I'll want to continue staying clean.

None of my friends or family use. They are well-meaning and supportive. But I can't really talk with them about it; I'm too embarrassed and grossed out by myself to be honest with them. ...So I spend a lot of time reading posts on the Sober Living BL forum. :)
 
You should consider trying suboxone ive been on them for 2 years my story is similiar started smoking weed in 6th grade full blown coke head by 8th grade dropped out b4 9th grade ran away from home started with vics roxys then moved on to heroin im 28 now been to several rehabs none of them worked for me i went to detox and got on suboxone and ive been sober ever since
 
Ok, I'm a 26 y old female. Like I said, stressful job, working nights which gets me lonely.

Did fall off the wagon. IVed the other day just because I had access to it. Feel stupid now. That was 3 days ago. Going to keep it as a bump in the road and keep moving forward.

Sleeping last night was a bit of a battle but I managed to get a few hours in here and there. Trying to keep my head up.

I also have access to benzos, but I've managed to keep from abusing them as well. Always used xanax for insomnia, recently switched to valium but it doesn't help with the instant sleep i sometimes need being that I'm nocturnal. Wondering if my doc would be willing to write for valium as well as a few xanax to knock me out when it's 9am and I need to fall asleep for work.

Thanks for the support. Currently trying to wake up with some good ole caffeine....
 
Hey 1fastgsxr

I replied to your post in the "april getting clean" thread. If you didnt see it, I am on day 8 of no percocet and am still getting some withdrawals but just sweating, insomnia, boredom lol I also work at night well 6p-2a lol

My honest experience is xanax was a huge help in small doses otherwise I would be lethargic or walking into walls. I used it twice a day in the morning and afternoon, just to keep the anxiety, chills, frantic thinking all at bay. When I wanted to use it to fall asleep and would take a little more I found it knocked me out but didnt keep me asleep. After 2-3hrs of xanax sleep I would rather have not taken it and just stayed awake.
 
Hi Jixxer! Welcome!

If you are getting any sleep at all on Day 3, you may not have as intense of a physical dependency as you think. I can tell by your posts that you are a very intelligent and insightful woman, so I am just going to shoot it straight... Ride out the next couple days, and don't cheat, don't get on Suboxone and don't forget what this feels like. It could be a lot worse. I am not by any means minimizing what you are going through, but you are being given something that many of us wish like hell we could go back and seize, a second chance.

I speak from experience when I say that you have 2 paths... One is to take this blessing, learn from it and move on with your life, while it is still something that you can be proud of. Or, I see you posting on here in 2 years addicted to heroin, lost your career, damaged your relationships and are circling the drain.

I wish you the very best. Your post was eerily familiar to the first post I ever made, over 10 years ago, just a couple years older than you are now. I had a wife, 2 kids, house, a great career and lots of toys (including a Jixxer and an R-6). I lost it all. It feels like it happens so slowly, but then all at once. But it will happen... Unless you make the choice to get clean right now, and get some drug counseling.

Godspeed,

AlanJ
 
I started reading be this thread this morning before breakfast. How are you doing buddy? I've made myself knowledgable (extensively) on opiate addiction and everything it entails. The one thing I keep expressing is the 'mind is stronger than addiction'. There will be cravings, but the support you've gained since April is immense. I applaud you and I'm extremely proud of you (not knowing you) for choosing a better life. My recommendation is therapeutic sessions or counselling 'post withdrawal' (I will mention that below) with a partner so you continue life with that 'Buddy'. I don't recommend this 'buddy' be an ex-addict or even someone that is going through the same thing. I'm sure there was a time your boyfriend truly wanted to help. **that is the situation I'm in right now July 12th, 2015. In not a doctor but I know there's enough kits and tools to make withdrawal not as painful .. My #1 component is the after care. You are Strong, your mind is capable, it will and can see better life, you are still alive, and there's more support than you can imagine.

'Post Withdrawal' - when the brain slowly starts to produce the serotonin levels, be with that 'buddy', start a program or design and discuss a game plan. This will be 'New Knowledge' for the brain and it may be painful. Do not live alone. The help is there, ask. The help has been waiting for all the right reasons. In my opinion, and the sole basis for the findings I will be publishing in print is to 'assist' what's left of the addicted mind after the opiate(s) have left the body. This is when the real work begins. The hard part is over and now begins 're-build' mode. Re-building that positive life will cause synapses in the brain that the addiction can be overcome. It will get easier for you as days, months, seasons, and years go by. Also, remain focused daily. The best possible solution for each individual, 1-2 months 'post withdrawal' is critical and with the right support WILL lead to a life that drugs are left behind.

You can contact me if you'd like to talk. Don't think of it as a 'lifelong journey to sobriety' think of it more as a 'Game-Plan' to leave a past that causes more pain than happiness.

I again, commend you on your strength .. this can be done without a structured, rigid (at times), scheduled, detox treatment Centre. Counselling & therapeutic stimuli is enough to overcome the addiction. I'm not advocating detox treatment centres are no good .. That's just not the most comfortable avenue for everyone.

All the best, bye for now, I love your courage for doing this.

MM
 
i hate to be that guy to say this but if you were addicted to opiates as you say, bluelight alone is not enough to keep you clean and sober the rest of your life. you said you relapsed 3 days ago?

it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to beat an addiction on your own. I don't know how bad you got but you did get to the point of withdrawals.. if you don't nip this in the bud now, you will move on to dope and once you go dope its a wrap, say goodbye to that career of yours.

sorry i don't mean to sound like an asshole just trying to give some insight. the answer to beating an addiction is having a community of ppeople in the flesh, who you can hang out with and talk about cravings you have and how to live a sober life with these people. an online forum is a good start but you need to be around other recovering addicts in real life.
 
Am I nuts, or has this person not posted for over 3 months?
im just wondering why people are posting today to someone that posted so long ago?
sorry if this question is out of line, I just wonder if I'm crazy to think this?
( hope you are all having a great day, anyway)
 
i hate to be that guy to say this but if you were addicted to opiates as you say, bluelight alone is not enough to keep you clean and sober the rest of your life. you said you relapsed 3 days ago?

it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to beat an addiction on your own. I don't know how bad you got but you did get to the point of withdrawals.. if you don't nip this in the bud now, you will move on to dope and once you go dope its a wrap, say goodbye to that career of yours.

sorry i don't mean to sound like an asshole just trying to give some insight. the answer to beating an addiction is having a community of ppeople in the flesh, who you can hang out with and talk about cravings you have and how to live a sober life with these people. an online forum is a good start but you need to be around other recovering addicts in real life.

i guess i'm a lucky mfer then
 
i guess i'm a lucky mfer then
I feel for all you guys I've gotten clean three times and keep going back I'm in school now and the day schools done I'm taking as much time as I need to get clean the day after I'm done with school is going to be my first day clean I've lost almost everything and I'm so depressed and I need people too I feel like I have nobody ibhave lots of questions and def need a buddy like imo I'm really impressed by her she's keeping strong we all slip up just don't do it again or you will never get clean you can do this just like I know I can do this too just need some help
 
Am I nuts, or has this person not posted for over 3 months?
im just wondering why people are posting today to someone that posted so long ago?
sorry if this question is out of line, I just wonder if I'm crazy to think this?
( hope you are all having a great day, anyway)
Oh gosh your right ^^^ what r we doing lol
 
My grammer is not tha best but i gotta write and tell you if you are planning on kickng painkillers YOU CAN DO IT!!I lived pretty reckless most my life..I started abusing alcohol at young age.I drank to black out for end of my teen yrs and most my 20's & whn i found speed forget it.It was over with!!I quit alcohol and speed in 2012.I started feelng really good sober then had a kidney stone ordeal that left me strung out due to urologist bein out of country!!That fuckng guy!!Every 4 hrs I waz back in emergency in pain- gettng shot up with diladid & i gotta admit i liked how it felt!!After 4 days of gettn smackd up every 4 hrs urologists admits me & off to surgery i went!!I never really came down i seen my practionioner or my doctor and he rite away put me on 140 norco tens a month.and anxiety meds.Yeah it was fun at first swimmng and workng out but i eventually after 3 yrs of abuse became a slave to that shit..I fuckn hated it!!I would go hook frm my dr.Not cuz i wanted too but because i wanted to not feel sick no more.whn i ran outa my script i hit my homies on ths street..I was back off to tha races...I got delusional,Moody,Over weight,Strung out!!Few months ago I HATED MYSELF..I WAS PICKNG FIGHTS with cats driving by..I started gettng agro..Everythng had took its toll & I SPIROLD OUTA CONTROL!!In the end i was determined but confused and desperatly needed to quit for my Sanity..I started asking google all my concerns & I started reading these forums and i decided One last re-up & im gunna quit.I was takng up to 8 norco 10's a day in the end and 3 xany bars to mellow down & drinking 3 taco bell cups a day of iced starbucks coffee to stay alert and on point((ohh and was smoking over a pack a day cigarettes & walkng the cliffs at night 2n half 3nhalf hrs fuckng floating((i couldnt feel my legs))haha geesh!!Yeah i was trippin!!!I decided enough is enough..I weined down one less each day!!8-7,7-6,6-5,5-4n halves,next day 3nhalf in halves,3 in halves,2n half in halves,2 n halves,1n'half & last day that last one i said fuck it and said i CAN DO THIS SHIT and tossed that last one and the remainder of my script!!!Then the Hell ride began!!hhahaha ROLLER COASTER SHIT I WAZ BURNING IN HELL IT FELT LIKE..SO next day nuthng and i said to myself is this all you got SHOOT i can fuckn do this!!i stayed bed ridden all day and ?!!the next day i hit a a.a.meetng and gave my friend military cat (30 yrs sober)the rest of my work stash in my work bag.I attended the meeting ratted myself out and i felt real humility then!!I was living a lie frm 2013 playng the role goin to meetngs and poppn norx..I was ashamed i hated how i felt by 2015 i was a walkng fuckng zombie..I LOST MY fuckng MIND!!I am here tonight just to say its been 2 months cold turkey and i finally am startng to sleep eat and feel normal!!I lost 30 pounds kickng these pills So outa everythng bad theirs sumthng good!!Day 4 cold turkey was like one of the worst.i work nites on the rails and i was out there fuckng cookn in my own skin.the weather was extremely hot here in so.cal & i felt like i was burning in HELL!!hhahaha I can laugh about it now?But i truly lived my own hell kickng those pills!!Only a fool would ever consider taking anuther painkiller after all that?Im writing on here tonight to tell you if you are reading my thread and you are READY TO KICK PAIN MANEGMNT?YOU CAN DO IT!!!I DID!!!Just BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!Dont let feelngs distract you!!Stay focused!!If u have a job?Go to work- like i did!!That really helped!!If you want to run and hide thats ok i felt the same i just told myself if i miss work ill end up in debt and have to facevthat shitvwhn i get back.. I am a man with everythng to lose.. PLAY TIME IS FUCKNG OVER!!I GOT MYSeLF IN THIS-& IM GET MYSELF OUT!!!It waz a heluva ride...Like day 6-7 my chest was hurtng and i was sleepng with one eye open wit Serious insomnia my heart was pounding hard and I think i had a couple minor heart attacks lol but i can be- bein dramatic on that- thow my chest did hurt bad ?!!i say it takes a good 18 days to break the haze and 2-2 half months to be completely Normal..Im at 2 months..I MADE IT I SURVIDED & you will too!!its only'a matter of time ill b back 100 and doin everythng i want to again like bein the man,father,example im suposed to be!And you will too!!!When you are ready weine down like i did..i weined off tha xanys the same during weining off the Norx!!Norcos and xanaxes are very dangerous..I was playng with fire!!I even quit smoking as well but i baught a new car boutva week ago and celebrated by buying 4 different types of smokes hahaaa
(now im smokin a lil bit again?).Yeah my life became a Johny Cash song!!I listened to that song HURT BY JOHNY CASH and broke down in tears cuz i could relate...I dont wish pain manegemnt on anyone!!Its a lie frm the pit of Hell⚡ or maybe just for addicts like me?Either way today i am FREE?!!You can do anything you put your mind too?..If you need to talk?Reply to me and ill get back az soon az i can..if by chance i dont?? wich i mite not?.. im sure one of these other champs will help u??Keep your head up?.these forums really help..You will never see the heavenz if ur lookng down..I AM A FATHER of 4,A HUSBAND to my esposa of 21yrs, A MAN WITH A CARREER jeesh fckn turning fuckn 40 next month diaammm!!!hahaha Yeahh-i have things -alot of things- but SOBRIETY is one? thing i never really had & i strive to keep it this time..It takes alot of hard work- like a garden for instance or a relationshp...I firmly believe- Dreamz DONT WORK- if you DONT?,,So Working is very very very
important?!!I have a very extreme personality hhahaha Goal driven!!you gotta b if you want nice things..Aint no one gunna give u shit!!!!IF I CAN QUIT?You can too!?!!Give yourself a break..Weine down- take somthn for the anxiety frst week and flush those too!!You dont need em anymore after that.. FEEL THE PAIN..The pain will set you free..FUCK DRUGS?..ITS A BLESSING TO WAKE UP SOBER & to yawn again!!IT IS THEN -AND ONLY THEN -YOU WILL BE FREE....I wish u all tha Best & Hope my post helps you!!What ever it takes-Do tha rite thing for u & your fam..✌?og Wdsta1?
 
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