jamesmartin
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The "best" (As in way that is most bioavailable) way would be to IV it. Which is why you see addicts usually only using this method.
Smoking or snorting would come in at second.
But imo if your smoking or snorting and your tolerance to opiates is pretty low maybe try a weaker opiate such as codeine...
Some of us bluelighters cant get a buzz off codeine unless we do a high dose but for some one who is new to opiates & doesnt have a tolerance - coedine would be perfect.
180mg or probably less mg of codeine would give you a great buzz and night.
I remember when it did for me.
ahh the good old days...Now it doesnt unless i take a huge dose
As I've snorted 4mg hydromorphones between 20-30 times now in the last 2 years - and therefore my opiate tolerance is not non-existing like it once was.
Or if codeine isn't available try a pharmaceutical opiate which is similar in strength (if not stronger - depends on purity of your H) to heroin like hydromorphone. If you can get it.
Reason i'm saying this is due to the fact that this is a harm reduction forum. Obviously pharmaceutical opiates being regulated are safer and dont have as many impurities in it when compared to street heroin/tar. Less nasty stuff going into your body.... Who knows whats in that "tar" your thinking of using.
However, even though I'm sure theres much nastier impurities in H/Tar that doesnt mean pharmaceutical and pure opiates aren't nasty... in their own way.
Like many others have mentioned be careful of addiction.
It takes great discipline not to keep using opiates as they make you feel great.
I myself never thought i'd get hooked. However I did for a few months 2 years ago during the summer. Managed to quit with pretty bad withdrawals. And this was just from snorting hydromorphone every day for ONLY a couple of months (and taking 30percs prescribed to me for wisdom teeth)... Id hate to imagine what withdrawal from daily long term IV use is like !
Since that habit which i broke 2 years ago I haven't touched the stuff apart from a few times with my ex and then once a week after i broke up with my ex fairly recently.
I dont know what i was thinking, i was feeling like shit i guess and missing her even though it was my decision to leave her -_- She was really awesome and i still have yet to find someone this awesome :/ But at the same time things she had done in the past made me question her as a person and I also felt she didn't bring out the best in me either.
Anyways, like i said - i dont know what i was thinking here. I was with my bro who thank god isn't addicted (and is clean now) anymore but at the time was going down a spiral of his own.
He was IVing hydromorphone at the time.
And i'd see him once every 2 weeks. When wed hang he'd always shoot (as at this point he wasn't clean and was shooting everyday.)
Even though id discourage it every time he'd prepare a hit, I'd see the reason why he did it . And tbh couldn't blame him - The major relief he seemed to be getting from doing it while I just sat and watched while smoking a spliff was amazing. I wanted that !
Eventually curiosity got the best of me. My ex shot up ... My bro did too . And from watching both of them do it for a while curiosity finally got the better of me.
One day i made a deal with my bro to pay him $20 to shoot me up with approx 3mg of hydromorphone.
I hadn't touched opiates for a while either.
When he did it.
Best way i could describe it was at first (for me with no tolerance to shooting - and a low tolerance to snorting) when it's first shot into your arm you loose all ability to stand.
I quickly sat down on the floor in his bathroom where we had prepared the shot. He tried to get me to walk into his living room beside it so i could sit on the sofa there. However i couldnt and told him i needed to sit on the bathroom floor for a bit more then id move.
I felt kind of sweaty & warm but not in a bad way. The sweaty you feel when you are taking/release a giant shit x10.
This feeling then kept getting more and more intense. Whilst a warm, euphoric, mellow feeling was slowly creeping up slowly too...
Was feeling major "ahhhh" ...
like i just took a shit 10x bigger than one I've ever taken in my life. That relief you get from taking a shit . You know it? Well if you're human you most likely do
Well times that feeling by 150 lol.
Then add the feeling of being cosy in your living room, wrapped in a warm blanket by a fire whislst you look outside and its -40/blizzard.
Then add the feeling of ejaculating but for a good 10-15mins (approx time i think the rush was - tbh i was nodding so thats why i say approx. but the initial "rush" felt like it was this long until the high subsided into the familiar opiate high i get from snorting.).
Combine all these ^ feelings and add some nausea in there and thats the best way i could describe it lol.
I puked like 3 times over the course of an hour as soon as i shot the hydromorphone.
And tbh the nausea wasn't even that bad as it is when your drunk or something. I even kinda found throwing up on opiates to be pleasant and relieving lol.
This feeling which i guess was the "rush" everyone describes subsided slowly into the mellow opiate high with the itching which i was expecting and used too from snorting the stuff.
Hope that helps. Thats the best I could describe it briefly.
Obviously you'd have to try it for yourself.
But i can safely say i didn't gain anything from my experience.
Its not mind expanding imo like psychedelics are (which I've tried a few times and dont regret trying/am glad I tried them) and don't provide me with any spiritual or life benefits....
and because of this have I have no desire to go out and do it again at this point in time... This may also be because i am much happier now as a person vs when i wanted and did IV.
So tbh if you can do without trying it then ... do without
Stick to the herb
Smoking or snorting would come in at second.
But imo if your smoking or snorting and your tolerance to opiates is pretty low maybe try a weaker opiate such as codeine...
Some of us bluelighters cant get a buzz off codeine unless we do a high dose but for some one who is new to opiates & doesnt have a tolerance - coedine would be perfect.
180mg or probably less mg of codeine would give you a great buzz and night.
I remember when it did for me.
ahh the good old days...Now it doesnt unless i take a huge dose
As I've snorted 4mg hydromorphones between 20-30 times now in the last 2 years - and therefore my opiate tolerance is not non-existing like it once was. Or if codeine isn't available try a pharmaceutical opiate which is similar in strength (if not stronger - depends on purity of your H) to heroin like hydromorphone. If you can get it.
Reason i'm saying this is due to the fact that this is a harm reduction forum. Obviously pharmaceutical opiates being regulated are safer and dont have as many impurities in it when compared to street heroin/tar. Less nasty stuff going into your body.... Who knows whats in that "tar" your thinking of using.
However, even though I'm sure theres much nastier impurities in H/Tar that doesnt mean pharmaceutical and pure opiates aren't nasty... in their own way.
Like many others have mentioned be careful of addiction.
It takes great discipline not to keep using opiates as they make you feel great.
I myself never thought i'd get hooked. However I did for a few months 2 years ago during the summer. Managed to quit with pretty bad withdrawals. And this was just from snorting hydromorphone every day for ONLY a couple of months (and taking 30percs prescribed to me for wisdom teeth)... Id hate to imagine what withdrawal from daily long term IV use is like !
Since that habit which i broke 2 years ago I haven't touched the stuff apart from a few times with my ex and then once a week after i broke up with my ex fairly recently.
I dont know what i was thinking, i was feeling like shit i guess and missing her even though it was my decision to leave her -_- She was really awesome and i still have yet to find someone this awesome :/ But at the same time things she had done in the past made me question her as a person and I also felt she didn't bring out the best in me either.
Anyways, like i said - i dont know what i was thinking here. I was with my bro who thank god isn't addicted (and is clean now) anymore but at the time was going down a spiral of his own.
He was IVing hydromorphone at the time.
And i'd see him once every 2 weeks. When wed hang he'd always shoot (as at this point he wasn't clean and was shooting everyday.)
Even though id discourage it every time he'd prepare a hit, I'd see the reason why he did it . And tbh couldn't blame him - The major relief he seemed to be getting from doing it while I just sat and watched while smoking a spliff was amazing. I wanted that !
Eventually curiosity got the best of me. My ex shot up ... My bro did too . And from watching both of them do it for a while curiosity finally got the better of me.
One day i made a deal with my bro to pay him $20 to shoot me up with approx 3mg of hydromorphone.
I hadn't touched opiates for a while either.
When he did it.
Best way i could describe it was at first (for me with no tolerance to shooting - and a low tolerance to snorting) when it's first shot into your arm you loose all ability to stand.
I quickly sat down on the floor in his bathroom where we had prepared the shot. He tried to get me to walk into his living room beside it so i could sit on the sofa there. However i couldnt and told him i needed to sit on the bathroom floor for a bit more then id move.
I felt kind of sweaty & warm but not in a bad way. The sweaty you feel when you are taking/release a giant shit x10.
This feeling then kept getting more and more intense. Whilst a warm, euphoric, mellow feeling was slowly creeping up slowly too...
Was feeling major "ahhhh" ...
like i just took a shit 10x bigger than one I've ever taken in my life. That relief you get from taking a shit . You know it? Well if you're human you most likely do
Well times that feeling by 150 lol. Then add the feeling of being cosy in your living room, wrapped in a warm blanket by a fire whislst you look outside and its -40/blizzard.
Then add the feeling of ejaculating but for a good 10-15mins (approx time i think the rush was - tbh i was nodding so thats why i say approx. but the initial "rush" felt like it was this long until the high subsided into the familiar opiate high i get from snorting.).
Combine all these ^ feelings and add some nausea in there and thats the best way i could describe it lol.
I puked like 3 times over the course of an hour as soon as i shot the hydromorphone.
And tbh the nausea wasn't even that bad as it is when your drunk or something. I even kinda found throwing up on opiates to be pleasant and relieving lol.
This feeling which i guess was the "rush" everyone describes subsided slowly into the mellow opiate high with the itching which i was expecting and used too from snorting the stuff.
Hope that helps. Thats the best I could describe it briefly.
Obviously you'd have to try it for yourself.
But i can safely say i didn't gain anything from my experience.
Its not mind expanding imo like psychedelics are (which I've tried a few times and dont regret trying/am glad I tried them) and don't provide me with any spiritual or life benefits....
and because of this have I have no desire to go out and do it again at this point in time... This may also be because i am much happier now as a person vs when i wanted and did IV.
So tbh if you can do without trying it then ... do without
Stick to the herb
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