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sk3j

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I tried to look for this question but I don't think it is around, otherwise I apologize for reposting (please link me to the discussion)


Now, I do not really care about the matter, but many people I met have told me that they do not want to use anything that it isn't natural, because it is better.

I cringe everytime I hear this sentence, honestly, but I have no knowledge to explain why. I mean, if the only problem is that you can not know what people put into syntetic drugs... just test it?

is there something I am missing? :?
 
There's something they're missing, being the knowledge that there's no difference in chemicals and natural products, because natural products also contain chemicals. The only difference is that one is synthesized by using chemistry (other chemicals are used to produce the chemical required) and the other is created by plants, animals or some other part of nature. The end products are the same, but, to be fair, 100% clean yield is nearly impossible to achieve through chemistry. However, the final product is usually isolated from the rest products.
 
Organic vs inorganic, its all chemicals, some more stable or less reactive than others , whole thing is a big false dichotomy i mean LSD was a research chemical too once. That's just one of scores nay hundreds, thousands of examples


Chemicals is chemicals molecules is moluecules drugs is drugs.

Now the question are some drugs (intrinsicallly) better than others? Very interesting one there, we could go on for days.
 
The only rational argument for the whole natural vs synthetic I can think of off the top of my head is, substances that occur naturally in the world have been there for a while and there's at least a chance our bodies have adapted to said chemicals during our evolution. Compare this to a chemical that was synthesized for the first time perhaps a couple decades ago and never existed on this planet before. This does not guarantee the safety of these chemicals that have existed for aeons in any way, they can still be some of the deadliest substances out there, so the point is sort of moot in my book. But it's a persistent viewpoint. There could be spiritual reasons too, and those are rather hard to argue for or against.
 
I agree that it's stupid to make the distinction between natural and synthetic drugs with the exception of factual statements or for a opinionated statement about preference. I bet none of these people would take cocaine(uncut) even though it's all natural, tell them to eat datura everyday and see how they feel. Also tell them not to take antibiotics and antihistamines if they are so pure.
 
Unless you know how the drug was "made", especially if it's a street drug, there's a chance a lab-made drug could contain harmful by-products from synthesis.
 
I agree, basically everything passes through other hands and different processing.
 
Didn't think about antibiotics, that would be a good way to see a proper reaction, finally. Because until now I tried to say that, you know, alcohol and nicotine are natural and very harmful. Buuuuuut it's different, it's natural, I don't trust chemicals, etc. I mean, I know if it comes from the street or by someone who made it you have to either trust them or test it, but this is the great thing about chemicals: you can actually test them! You can buy a kit on the web and know what you are taking.
(also, I got confused when they say they would happily try mushrooms, salvia, etc. but not LSD or 2CB and so on)
However, even if I say the last one about the test, those people all pure always say that it's still different. And I still can't understand why. Some of the most dangerous poisons of the world are all natural, if I am not wrong.
 
Tryptamino said:
yeah but b real, like what other RC can even hold a candle to LSD, honestly?
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LSD is the gold standard though I'd say 2C-B and 4-AcO-DMT come close for me. I also like shorter trips, just my personality.

Who knows maybe we can get another LSD quality RC sometime in the future, if we are lucky.
 
SirTophamHat said:
LSD is the gold standard though I'd say 2C-B and 4-AcO-DMT come close for me. I also like shorter trips, just my personality.

Who knows maybe we can get another LSD quality RC sometime in the future, if we are lucky.
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2 cb seems to wonk me the fuck out,
what about it is favorable to you top?

I enjoy the shorter trips as well minus salvia that shit gets to wild.
 
TheRapperGoneBad said:
2 cb seems to wonk me the fuck out,
what about it is favorable to you top?

I enjoy the shorter trips as well minus salvia that shit gets to wild.
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Fuck salvia haha.

I loved how 2CB had the most insane cartoony visuals with absolutely no mindfuckery or overstimulation like 2CE and 2CT7 also the short duration (I snorted it) kicked ass and I don't know it just seemed like pure visual candy to me!! I also smoked a lot of weed on it of course. 2CE is fantastic too but slightly more cerebral and "neutral" if that makes any sense.
 
SirTophamHat said:
Fuck salvia haha.

I loved how 2CB had the most insane cartoony visuals with absolutely no mindfuckery or overstimulation like 2CE and 2CT7 also the short duration (I snorted it) kicked ass and I don't know it just seemed like pure visual candy to me!! I also smoked a lot of weed on it of course. 2CE is fantastic too but slightly more cerebral and "neutral" if that makes any sense.
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I swallowed 2CB and it lasted for about 4 hours (or 6? it was a year ago, I don't remember). Suuuuuper super nice, it was like being into a kaleidoscope and I laughed so hard omg. But the next time, months after, it wasn't that good. Actually not at all. Maybe because I knew I had to be careful bc I had to drive for a little while, I almost didn't felt it at all while my friends were enjoying it very much.

I'd like to try some trips as well, but everything seems to last too many hours
 
sk3j said:
I tried to look for this question but I don't think it is around, otherwise I apologize for reposting (please link me to the discussion)


Now, I do not really care about the matter, but many people I met have told me that they do not want to use anything that it isn't natural, because it is better.

I cringe everytime I hear this sentence, honestly, but I have no knowledge to explain why. I mean, if the only problem is that you can not know what people put into syntetic drugs... just test it?

is there something I am missing? :?
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They're most likely of the hippie-sort and refuse to acknowledge the usefulness or even safety of synthetic drugs (except the majority that happily eats LSD). Anyway they don't understand that when you break it down, chemicals are just chemicals, molecules are molecules, and the distinction becomes less relevant for most contexts.

I mean, shit. Morphine is natural. So are many species of mushroom that will kill you with one bite, and the countless toxins found in nature. I think the opposition is usually emotional rather than rational.
 
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