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Chicago heroin thread v. blowin for blows

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pill_billy said:
yea when i was in detox the ppl there for subs n done said the WDs on day 20 were just as bad as they were on day one.... fuck all that... WDin from dope was bad for 5-6 days but i dont think i could of done a month of that....

but im sure ul be different memphis... lol... idk why but you just seem like such a douche
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yeah 20 days of full on withdrawal just sounds horrifying and just about impossible for even the most determined person, but also sounds like you charting into potentially fatal waters even for the healthiest person. Do these clinics offer or require medical attention after you make your jump off?
 
urbans0ma said:
Yeah it's very much a "frozen in time" situation. I have used sub successfully and basically dodged all aspects of wd though! A month back I took a break and really wanted to quit forever but I kinda knew I wasn't ready. I had 3 8mg pills and broke them up, took 2mg's when I felt it come on and used xanax for the anxiety. I think the second day I needed 4mgs but otherwise I was fine taking very little for a week and then just stopped taking it. I was totally fine. I think I read here that the key to a very short stint with subs and dodging wd is to use the least amount required when starting out and everyday reduce the amount after day 4. I don't know how well that would work for anyone with a very large habit, I also don't know how it would work going off of methadone since the half life on done is 72 hours from last dosage. When I went off of methadone I didn't feel anything till almost exactly 72 hours. God that withdrawal was never ending and scary, truthfully the worst.
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First let me say welcome to the boards! I think a lot of us could agree that you are perfect for here and your posts have been beyond interesting and insightful and I think that we can all benefit from a harm reduction standpoint from your experiences/trials, and struggles. We all now how fucking brutal this addiction is and I commend you for your honesty and having the courage to try and stand up to this beast that has taken ahold of us. Ok I'm done kissing your ass, not that you needed my fucking acceptance anyway haha. Anyway I have used suboxone the same way many times. I would always have them on hand incase I couldn't get ahold of a connect or if I just wanted a few days off from the ups and downs of dope. I think doing that and using raw all the time shot my tolerance through the roof. But I have also used it in attempts to get clean similar to how you described. I always had the strips because they were always available so easily at a bus stop where I could park my car at the Harris bank and just walk over (some might know where I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if it still is the same over there, it's been awhile). But I would take a full 8mg strip after about 24 hours since my last use, then the next day 4mg, next day 2 mg, then go as long as possible without and then take a full 8mg strip and then stop completely. This had me clean for 27 days once. It wasn't perfect of course and I still had a lot of anxiety and was low on energy of course, but it beat the shit out of being full blown withdrawal while working an 18 hour day. Of course at the time I wasn't ready and with the extra cash I had from those 27 days I was able to have a blissful relapse. Anyway I think subs are great for that use if you have a support system in place to help you stay clean, but I'm not against any maintaince drug if that is what is gonna keep someone grounded and take care of family and work and whatnot. Be safe everyone!
 
MemphisX3 said:
Also, the only horse I have been riding lately is your mother and by that I don't mean sex.

I put a saddle on your mom equipped with stirrups and a ball gag, staple a makeshift tail to her and ride her around the house while shoving carrots up her ass.


That bitch is into some kinky Shit.
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Was that one for all of us? And If so I must have proof. My mom is almost 70 and I think that she would have a very hard time doing this. I think I would be able to physically do it and if you live in the greater Chicagoland area I would invite you to try it out on me and I would especially love for you to find out how that would end for you. But I love your imagination. Sorry for the triple post btw. It's hard to add all the quotes while doing this on my phone.
 
Pizza king said:
yeah 20 days of full on withdrawal just sounds horrifying and just about impossible for even the most determined person, but also sounds like you charting into potentially fatal waters even for the healthiest person. Do these clinics offer or require medical attention after you make your jump off?
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dude its way longer then 20 days... im sayin they dont even feel ne better after three weeks...

but yea every detox ive been too they take your blood pressure like 4-5 times a day... chk your oxygen level in your blood ( they get your heart beat and oxygen level with the thing put on the end of your finger... i thought it was a pretty nifty device) the one place i was at did EKGs for some ppl... its def not like your just chillin unsupervised all day n night... but yea its def not easy to come off tht shit... im pretty sure ive been in those places with 5 ppl tryin to do tht shit and each time they left early and said fuk it they couldnt do it...
 
Woamotive - be forewarned, I've been on subs over a year and figured I'd go back on h for 2 weeks, taper and then jumps off the h and sub at the same time. Cause I figured the 2 weeks on h would get me started off the sub, then tapering off the dope would be easier and the sub would also work it's way out.
Well, all good on paper, sad to say in my case that ended up in disaster, almost divorce and hospitalization.
After the sweats and shakes and shits were finished, it was back on the sub just to maintain my sanity.....
I don't know how I'm get off the sub eventually except for a medically supervised taper, but that's in the future for now. I just want to build on my clean sane time.
 
Sub withdrawal is brutal. I didn't feel right even after the 35 day mark. At that point i was mentally and physically done so I made the decision to get back on heroin then suboxone.
 
ehhh thread lost its momentum with bickering lol..
Whats up though! Im wondering if Hilary Clinton is guna be the next president. I mean yeah shes just as crooked as the rest but at least we know what we are getting lol. She probably would be open minded enough to listen to her advisers and scared of any middle east war blowing up in our face, so those are some qualities right off that back lol.
 
dude really?? hilary isnt as crooked as the rest... lol not like i know her or anything but she def seems like a good person, which is alot more then i can say about most of the republicans...

for real tho shes prob got that shit locked down... i kinda like rand paul... he def has the right idea about the war on drugs and real wars but then he just goes off and says some real crazy shit... but after voting for obama (twice) and seeing how much he pussed out on all the shit he said he was gona do im not really getin my hopes up for anyone... BTW did anyone see his interview w vice?? mother fucker said people need to be more focused on terrorists and shit like that instead of legalizing weed... wtf...
 
Sorry guys, been trying to get sober - HOLY SHIT this is awful. I have every desire to do it, but Ive never in my life projectile vomited like I have been (and sorry to be gross) but pissing out of my ass. I can't even make it to the bathroom because I'm puking off the side of my bed and it causes me to go #2. I'm on day 3 and had my pc drop off 3 bags. I did a quarter of 1 right away to stop vomiting. He took one look at me today and said "I don't want to actually push this on you, but girl you look like death! You need to do a bag and get food or at least water in you, shower and deal with the shit the rest of the day. At least this way you won't have organ failure". That is how bad I look. I couldn't take my kid to school today. He came in my room at 6am and said "Mom? Are you too weak to drive?" and I mumbled for a second and then puked and shit my bed. I have never ever in the 20+ years of doing dope off and on, and even methadone withdrawal (which was honest to god worse than childbirth) - ever puked. Yes I had the shits but never ever puked, and I consider myself a puker! So wtf? I don't IV and I rarely if ever get raw. I get the regular blows we all get. I swear it's the domo or something because 90% on the 1st day was all mucous. Im hoping half a bag a day won't totally set me back but I need a damn break! I have zofran at cvs and immodium called in, I have no money (my shit today from my pc was free). My friend said she'd get it if no one else would.I had no other symptoms other than no sleep and the light chills. It was just the vomiting and shits that drove me insane and made me faint. I have no help at all so Im trying my best to provide for my kid and get sober. I have no ability to get on methadone or subs - just learned that if I do either, I will lose my medical license (yes, I have a degree). Im not too sure how that works but according to NEXA *clinic* that's true, although they will still take me at 140.00 intake :( but not for 4 months. Ain't no way I'm prolonging this just to get on methadone because coming off of that is hell on earth! I could get subs in another state near by but that would involve driving and gas money, I have neither has this month has zapped me financially. Has anyone had the barfs this bad? If so, how long did it last? Like I said, this is uncharted territory for me. If it continues after 3 days of sparingly using... I will check myself into the ER on Friday after my kid gets out of school, just to make sure I don't have organ failure. Dehydration is the only aspect of withdrawal that can kill you (well, heroin withdrawal).
 
I have zofran, busted out an IV bag of sodium chloride from work (when all else fails, hydrate yourself IV!) and immodium. Bitter that I only have 4 xanax left though, I puked up every one that I had taken yesterday. Hopefully this goes a bit easier now. a bump of H had stopped all my withdrawals, so keeping with that - I may be able to stave off some of this misery for a bit. Surely going from 6-8 bags a day to 1 bag a day won't totally reset it completely, will it? I've been through this a million times but Im terrified of puking again.

Edited to add: 1 bag for 3 days but I'm aiming just to do today and see how I feel tomorrow. I don't want to continue using these 3 days unless I'm so sick and vomiting that it's the only thing that prevents it to take my kid to school
 
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Hey Urbans0ma. This is probably going to sound pretty strange but I'm pretty sure we have a bunch of mutual friends including my girlfriend. I just recently got back on methadone after 7 years of being clean, relapse, and the last two years going back and forth without really being able to get any significant clean time. Trust me, methadone was/isthe worst thing in the world to kick. I went to a detox in Miami for over 40 days to get off of a 125mg a day habit. However, this last time I tried to stabilize on suboxone but my habit was just too big so unfortunately in order to keep my life (great girlfriend, awesome job and two amazing dogs) I had to go back to the clinic. I'm reaching out because I know you just recently moved back here and probably don't have a lot of help with E. I know how great of a mother you are just by what I see on my girlfriends Facebook. I very rarely use this site so I'm still a green lighter or else I would have sent you a private message for sure. Just reaching out to say that you can do this and if their is anything you or E need I could probably help you out. Peace:
 
See Soma, you got people in your corner, whether you know them or not....
it's not just a bunch of "I'm a big bad junkie" stories on this site, there's also a bunch of people who care about each other and want to support each other to get and stay clean. Keep your head up girl.
 
Also, soma. Don't want you to be weirded out by any of this. I understand how disrcreet everything has to be in regards to our addictions and livelyhoods. Very few people know about my addiction. I know you and my girlfriend have talked, in private online, about addiction/ Narcan/ect. In case that gives you a better idea of who I am. Anyways, I dont plan on telling her about any of this. Finally, I completely flaked earlier and forgot that I have some extra of the things that you can only get in another state and would gladly drop them off today free of charge. Obviously, I saw that you said you had done some shit earlier so you would probably want to wait to take them but they are yours if you want them. I respect and will help anyone that is ready to throw the towel in in this sad and exahusting game/lifestyle. To everyone else: sorry for the rant. peace
 
UKvillage29 said:
Also, soma. Don't want you to be weirded out by any of this. I understand how disrcreet everything has to be in regards to our addictions and livelyhoods. Very few people know about my addiction. I know you and my girlfriend have talked, in private online, about addiction/ Narcan/ect. In case that gives you a better idea of who I am. Anyways, I dont plan on telling her about any of this. Finally, I completely flaked earlier and forgot that I have some extra of the things that you can only get in another state and would gladly drop them off today free of charge. Obviously, I saw that you said you had done some shit earlier so you would probably want to wait to take them but they are yours if you want them. I respect and will help anyone that is ready to throw the towel in in this sad and exahusting game/lifestyle. To everyone else: sorry for the rant. peace
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thats kinda crazy if yall really do know each other and you figured out who she was from a couple posts....
 
I totally think I know who you are! And we are in the same area, please don't tell her about this. You obviously know my kids' name and that I just came back here. I just slept for 3 hours and woke up to vomiting. If you can help me out it's very appreciated, just send me a msg on facebook. I'll keep an eye on my other folder. THANK YOU. And thank you all for words of encouragement. I'm sick of being sick and just want to make my kid dinner :( I need to eat too, it's been a few days. Also, no worries about me saying anything - I don't want anyone to know it's me or that this is going on so I would never out someone!
 
pill_billy said:
thats kinda crazy if yall really do know each other and you figured out who she was from a couple posts....
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I'm pretty easy to figure out lol. I thought about that last night and wondered if I should ask a mod to remove a few posts. My writing style is easy to figure out as is my job description - it's a dead give away. Luckily there's more men than female's on here, because otherwise I think the rumour mill would start around the city. I had to break down and tell someone I work with today and while it helped me out, I feel like an asshole. I do not want anyone to know, for the sake of my child's sanity and such. My kid is aware of what's going on but I'm mama and this is where my kid wants to be and live - it would wreck my child to have to leave me. That's the only part about this addiction that scares me, and that's losing my kid. Hence why I'm trying earnestly to get better. I want to live to see my child grow and do amazing things. I hate being a functioning addict because I can bullshit anyone that I'm sober, more so because so few have met me clean, so this is the only version of me they know. I just want the throwing up and shitting myself to end. :( You know Im sick if I don't even care that this guy who's offering to help me is fully aware of how awful I look and the fact I'm shitting myself lol. I no longer care I'm so ill.
 
Urbans0ma, since I don't want her to know anything send me an email from one of your other accounts since we both can't send PMs. My discreet email is just my username here followed by the seventh letter of the alphabet and mail ??. You're smart and can figure it out.
 
UKvillage29 said:
Urbans0ma, since I don't want her to know anything send me an email from one of your other accounts since we both can't send PMs. My discreet email is just my username here followed by the seventh letter of the alphabet and mail . You're smart and can figure it out.
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I can send PM's on here but I went ahead and sent an email. Let me know if you got it. I sent it from a discreet email but made sure to sign my name so you know it's actually me lol
 
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