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StanleyJobson

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I've found that pure MDMA is quite sedating, but it feels so clean, and the afterglow is so great that I'd rather stick with the pure stuff then go out looking for pressed pills. I've read that combining MDMA with a bit of amphetamine is a great combo, but amphetamine seems to be quite expensive at the moment. I'm thinking about trying some RC stimulants, but there's so much weird shit out there and I'm unfamiliar with pretty much all of it. I think a little bit of something like 4-fa might be magic, as it would give the energy necessary to not be lying face down on a couch for 3 hours straight. Does anyone have any good ideas on what to combine with pure MDMA to make it better? I'm aware that combining two stims isn't the best for your heart, so let's not spend too much time dwelling on the dangers of that. Thanks!
 
Have you tried simple caffeine? It doesn't take a strong stimulant to push MDMA out of its sedating effects, caffeine does it for a lot of people. You can use stronger stims obviously but it's generally not a necessity.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Have you tried simple caffeine? It doesn't take a strong stimulant to push MDMA out of its sedating effects, caffeine does it for a lot of people. You can use stronger stims obviously but it's generally not a necessity.
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This one exactly. Caffeine does the job just nicely for me and you can sleep shortly afterwards. Combining with amps will keep you awake for a good old time.
 
Thanks for the answers so far. For those of you that take caffeine with it, do you use caffeine pills, and if so, what dose? Seems like it would be better to pop a pill with your MDMA, because coffee might make you a bit jittery, and for me, makes me piss every 10 mins for 2 hours straight. I've heard caffeine can work for this, but I've been a little hesitant to try it out because it seems so boring. I guess the plus side of it is that it wouldn't give you a crash, which is one of the reasons I really like MDMA powder over pressed pills.

I'd still like to hear other ideas for what people have tried, especially if they've found something that also increases euphoria while not giving a crash. Shoot for the moon, right?
 
A little amphetamine or coke is nice once the MDMA starts wearing off and you get tired. It brings back the roll for me for a while and makes me really energized and euphoric. I can sleep better soon after than on speed or coke alone, go figure.
Haven't tried taking any other stims at the same time as MDMA, I enjoy it way too much on its own.
 
LSD! or more MDMA, maybe by a different route.

And weed makes everything better.

Some loud music always helps too.
 
f-FA is very sedating for a stim

Why do you like powder over pressed pills? MDMA is MDMA....it doesn't matter if its pressed into a pill form with some coloring agent or in powder form....its effects are totally the same.
 
^ With pressed pills even if they test positive for MDMA they can still have other drugs in them in a attempt to potenate the MDMA so less is needed for pills. Thats why powder/crystal MDMA is generally safer and cleaner.

If you use 4-FA or coke or meth-amp along with MDMA use very low dosages because there is a risk of serotonin sydrome, hypertension... basically all the risks are increased lol. Regular d/l-amphetamine would be much safer since it doesnt effect serotinin much. Adderall & dexedrine are regular amphetamine if you can find them. Pure amp is a lot more potent than MDMA my usual dose is 20mg of dexedrine, WITHOUT MDMA. Those pills can usually be found cheap & street amp is even cheaper though not as pure, no where near its usually around <50% purity I've heard.
 
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LSD IMO/IME. I find MDMA to be quite sedating. Just like all uppers. Only PO cocaine and ecstasy make me wanna run around the place hugging trees n such.

MDMA and amps make me just sit in warmth, euphoria and dwell on my racing thoughts
 
StanleyJobson said:
Thanks for the answers so far. For those of you that take caffeine with it, do you use caffeine pills, and if so, what dose? Seems like it would be better to pop a pill with your MDMA, because coffee might make you a bit jittery, and for me, makes me piss every 10 mins for 2 hours straight. I've heard caffeine can work for this, but I've been a little hesitant to try it out because it seems so boring. I guess the plus side of it is that it wouldn't give you a crash, which is one of the reasons I really like MDMA powder over pressed pills.
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In my experience caffeine jitters don't really happen when you're rolling but if you're sensitive to caffeine, maybe try 50mg (most caffeine pills are 200mg). It doesn't take much.

As mentioned, most stimulants have added serotonin action which not only adds to the crash but can be dangerous in certain circumstances. Caffeine is one of the safest options and readily available in pressed pills that aren't cut with potentially harmful chemicals like street drugs.
 
The serotonin syndrome issue is an interesting one, and something I have no interest in experimenting with.

Including caffeine and amphetamine, what would be some other non-serotonergic options? I'll probably try MDMA + caffeine in a few weeks, but am definitely interested in seeing what else has good synergism with MDMA.
 
I have found that caffeine pills don't work nearly as well as a chugging a couple (I usually drink 4 at a time) cups of real coffee.
 
Drugs with best synergy with MDMA in my experience are LSD (and other psychedelics), amphetamine, & opiates. I've never felt so much euphoria before in my life when I injected MDMA and Heroin in the same shot. If you inject MDMA start out with no more than 1/5 your dose it's MUCH more potent and the rush is INTENSE!
 
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No worse than mixing with another stimulant.
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This is wrong. Overdosing on serotonin releasing agents produces seriously nasty effects. Adding a small amount of a pure stimulant can enhance an experience without contributing too much to the damage. If you want to go the RC route, or just don't like caffeine, 2-fa is probably better than 4-fa because its a pure dopamine stimulant.
 
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