Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[SolidRegardless]

My experiment with Kratom has ended. I think that if I ever try it again I will try the extract in pill form. Even the thought of eating that much Kratom power makes me gag! I definitely had some sort of relief whilst WD, but not enough to consider it successful. I am back on my MST path again now that I had my script. No more Kratom for me! I am very sure it works for most people, but for me, possibly due to how much Zomorph I take daily, there was still a massive receptor delta -- who knows.

All the best peeps; my thoughts go out to everyone on BL.
SR

 

[4meSM]

So i've experimented with many ways of taking kratom and i've found the best way to take it is by letting it dissolve in water or juice first.
Toss and wash is terrible, used to take it like that but i really can't stand the dry powder, it gives me nausea as well if I take too much.
That's my method now:
-Put 1 (or 2 max) teaspoons in an empty glass.
-Add some water, just enough to fill 1/4 of the glass. (you can use juice if wanted)
-Stir with a spoon and let it sit for a few minutes until the powder dissolves ( you don't want to see any dry powder floating)
-Eat a little piece of chocolate or something sweet and then drink it like a shot of liquor, chase with more water or juice.
-Repeat for another dose.

I found that this method really reduces the nausea and doesn't taste as bad

 

[kratomman420]

Ive been using kratom for 2-3 day binges with 34 hour breaks for about a month, before that i was using every other day for 2 months, i use 35-56 grams when i use
my question is is it ok to start using every day with lesser and lesser amounts to wean off, or will that make it worse since i take that 34 hours off usually, also what amount should i start with, is a ounce good?
im trying to lower my tolerance but its damn near impossible to stop for longer than 34 hours without it becomin unbearable, what should i do
im about to get 5 teeth removed so my tolerance to opiates needs to be low

 

[Peacephrog1972]

I work third shift and I normally have a few drinks when I get home. Then off to bed. Get up around 4-6 and sometimes if I had to many drinks I still feel it or am hungover.
Kratom is so awesome at killing that shitty feeling! Just a fee grams and I feel like a million bucks.
Unfortunate I have been doing kratom twice a day every day for about 8 months.....not to happy with the habit I have started

 

[headfuck123]

Opinions on phenibut for kratom WD?

 

[Drew.]

@drew what type do you take and how do you take it? I have got green malay and I tried to toss and wash today and failed miserably. My plates and cups on the draining board got the blunt end of it after the green mist had subsided lol. I started to take it to help with opiate WD. It helped in the early stages but really didn't help later this evening. I gave in and went to my GP and I got my script early. I now feel great!

So i've experimented with many ways of taking kratom and i've found the best way to take it is by letting it dissolve in water or juice first.
Toss and wash is terrible, used to take it like that but i really can't stand the dry powder, it gives me nausea as well if I take too much.
That's my method now:
-Put 1 (or 2 max) teaspoons in an empty glass.
-Add some water, just enough to fill 1/4 of the glass. (you can use juice if wanted)
-Stir with a spoon and let it sit for a few minutes until the powder dissolves ( you don't want to see any dry powder floating)
-Eat a little piece of chocolate or something sweet and then drink it like a shot of liquor, chase with more water or juice.
-Repeat for another dose.

I found that this method really reduces the nausea and doesn't taste as bad

This ^ I find extra pulp orange juice covers it best.
I also had success with syrup, though it was nutmeg.
I usually stay on an empty stomach however until six hours into the day.

I have heard yogurt works?

Keep it down, not out and onto your clean dishes

 

[Doldrugs]

I find extra pulp is way worse than no pulp when it comes to kratom. It goes down way smoother. The kratom seems to stick to the pulp and make it grosser.

 

[aroma borealis]

I get a headache and nausea if I take too much kratom. I had to find my sweet spot; for me, it's about 5-6 grams. I mix mine with sweetened, flavored ice tea or orangeade drink and glug it down as fast as possible. I find kratom and gabapentin to be an enjoyable high, and personally haven't experienced any ill effects from the combo.

 

[Crazyfrog]

Ok. Good news. It wasnt kratom that got me sick yesterday . It must have been some nasty bug i caught. I've taken 2 teaspoons of the same kratom, no ill effects. Amd im feeling 100% today.

 

[RecoveringPothead]

Kratom got me sick real bad twice.

I found it can cause lingering constipation and kratom burps nearly 48 hours after my last dose. Blocked me up so bad till I had diarrhea followed by vomiting (while still on the kratom!) then I stupidly took it again the next night after my body had already apparently purged itself.

The pendulum was already swinging the opposite direction of diarrhea from when it made me sick then when I took more it was a double whammy.

Kratom always gives me bad constipation but this was just a mess combining kratom constipation with everyday rebound constipation. Just wanted people to know that its possible for it to remain in your system looong after the psychoactive effects are gone and for me that meant mild constipation and occasional kratom burps nearly 48 hours after my last dose!

This lingering constipation seems to have gone away with the help of a large salad, a couple oranges and lots of coffee and water.

Be careful with this stuff.

I have limited experience with it and shall keep it that way because I have read the stories of what some people go through coming off a daily kratom habit and its not something I want to ever experience.

 

[MGLA]

I want to try Kratom as an aid to watch documentaries with on a night and relax with a spliff or two, ill take the Kratom on it's own first, are the effects of kratom as prominent as a cannabis high? I don't really want a background buzz i want something that will get me really relaxed and chilled but really don't want to go down the "Real" opiate route, I was thinking about getting 100g of Red Vein Bali as iv heard thats a nice relaxing one, and it's very cheap

 

[88dood88]

Kratom got me sick real bad twice.

I found it can cause lingering constipation and kratom burps nearly 48 hours after my last dose. Blocked me up so bad till I had diarrhea followed by vomiting (while still on the kratom!) then I stupidly took it again the next night after my body had already apparently purged itself.

The pendulum was already swinging the opposite direction of diarrhea from when it made me sick then when I took more it was a double whammy.

Kratom always gives me bad constipation but this was just a mess combining kratom constipation with everyday rebound constipation. Just wanted people to know that its possible for it to remain in your system looong after the psychoactive effects are gone and for me that meant mild constipation and occasional kratom burps nearly 48 hours after my last dose!

This lingering constipation seems to have gone away with the help of a large salad, a couple oranges and lots of coffee and water.

Be careful with this stuff.

I have limited experience with it and shall keep it that way because I have read the stories of what some people go through coming off a daily kratom habit and its not something I want to ever experience.

Once you get to daily usage it actually helps bowel movements, like I would just take one big shit a day, and not have to wipe at all. Of course when you hit withdrawals you get that rebound diarrhea lol

 

[RecoveringPothead]

I want to try Kratom as an aid to watch documentaries with on a night and relax with a spliff or two, ill take the Kratom on it's own first, are the effects of kratom as prominent as a cannabis high? I don't really want a background buzz i want something that will get me really relaxed and chilled but really don't want to go down the "Real" opiate route, I was thinking about getting 100g of Red Vein Bali as iv heard thats a nice relaxing one, and it's very cheap

It sure makes a better alternative to alcohol for these purposes. The red vein never did it for me (could just be the brand I used).

Don't buy the extracts or concentrated manmade forms, take the natural leaf or powder and get it from a reputable source.

Be sure not to take it daily though because I've read hundreds of reports and some people are getting hardcore addicted to what is falsely advertised as "a mild herb as benign as coffee" and shit like that.

Sorry if I'm ranting but few things piss me off as much as the hypocrisy of pro-legalization advocates who resort to the same lying tactics as the prohibitionists use.

 

[MGLA]

Thanks for the advice I did end up ordering some, i don't have a scale to weigh out so should i just go with say 2 heaped teaspoons to get into the 4-6g range?

 

[RecoveringPothead]

Once you get to daily usage it actually helps bowel movements, like I would just take one big shit a day, and not have to wipe at all. Of course when you hit withdrawals you get that rebound diarrhea lol

Daily usage for 2 weeks was only to relieve multiple conditions that only harder drugs would have relieved otherwise.

Only people who NEED it should take it daily.

Taken once a week maximum it retains its recreational value. By the end of 2 weeks of daily use it was barely recreational, more like I'm gonna take more just to get through my bullshit job and that path could only lead to addiction.

 

[RecoveringPothead]

Thanks for the advice I did end up ordering some, i don't have a scale to weigh out so should i just go with say 2 heaped teaspoons to get into the 4-6g range?

Potency can vary so much between different strains and vendors that it's hard to recommend a good starting dose but from my experiences 2 teaspoons sounds about right for a first time dose.

Use the measuring spoons used for cooking as those are standardized and just be careful to stop if you find yourself taking it every day or more often than planned.

 

[88dood88]

Daily usage for 2 weeks was only to relieve multiple conditions that only harder drugs would have relieved otherwise.

Only people who NEED it should take it daily.

Taken once a week maximum it retains its recreational value. By the end of 2 weeks of daily use it was barely recreational, more like I'm gonna take more just to get through my bullshit job and that path could only lead to addiction.

It took me about 5 months of daily usage before tolerance started to be a problem, so thats unfortunate you only got 2 weeks out of it. Currently I'm taking a lowish dose at night so I can go to sleep, the withdrawals to me seemed really bad but my tolerance got way out of hand so it was my fault for sure.

 

[《Plasticity》]

Tolerance built slowly for me as well, I don't have an exact timeline but I do know that I was dosing 4-6g a day for almost the first year. The problem started to arise in the long run. After the constant roller coaster of tolerance rising then taking a break it became faster and easier for tolerance to rise back up to where it was before a break... guess that's just the nature of the game though. Fwiw this wasn't a huge issue until maybe 3 years of daily use.

 

[RecoveringPothead]

I've read many reports and some people seem to take it daily for some time with no problem wheres others build a tolerance more rapidly.

I think individual body chemistry plays a big role here.

I just think that for someone just trying it, its an important thing to keep in mind, that the addiction potential is real and can be serious and unless you need it every day for a medical condition or prescription opiate withdrawal why not play it safe and avoid daily use? You get much better effects that way too.

I'm not experiencing withdrawals maybe just a little rebound lack of motivation but I think, in the name of harm reduction and to keep it legal by keeping its users responsible, we should make sure they're aware of the real addiction potential that is not mentioned or greatly minimized on many biased sources on the web.

Basically your millage may vary but why risk it to begin with when you can get better effects taking it only once in a while?

 

[Drew.]

Oh my goodness. EVERYONE I've ANSWERED TO:
I totally forgot to mention that my Kratom is an extremely fine powder when purchased. Are you guys just swallowing twigs and leaves? YUCK ! Even the leaf maeng da i purchase i bust up with a grinder, before i toss n' wash.

On a side note i need to figure out how to capitalize my "i's" on my phone. Spelling and grammatical errors drive me crazy!