GBL MEGATHREAD 6: The Germans didn't make Dan's

[ColtDan]

Using it to chill mainly, music enhancer, & as a booze substitute with stims, and as a sex drive enhancer. Havent used it in a club or whatever yet. I really should take your advice and stick to one dose a day, or a few, instead of re-dosing a lot

 

[belfort]

Cheers for the info, and yeah MDB still got around half the amount left i started off with. 10ml a day is my limit with it, on average probs 6/7ml a day two or 3 times a week. Only conked myself a couple times by accident with it so guess am being sensible-ish haha

Speaking of going out on the stuff, i was thinking about it, would be wicked. 1.2ml every 2 hours, could be a decent booze replacement, or mix nicely with booze. ontop of stims

partying on Gbl is iffy...the first dose is great, you are up and energetic and wide awake and really happpy..then you come down so quick and the first redose kicks in, u only get about half of the pleasant effects of the first dose and more of the sedative effects...i have found dosing 3 and 4 times just leads to me sitting in a corner nodding out tbh...i would need a stim in this case to keep me up and running but then you would have to deal with the gbl rebound...the last time i partied all night on Gbl i redosed around 4-5 times and slept at this girls house and i remember just feeling like shit..i was restless, couldnt even think of sleeping, didnt want to be around etc etc..not a good feeling...the best way to part on gbl is to dose once and then again 2 hours later then ahve a benzo ready for the comedown...

 

[HouseFever]

You need to be careful man, your mind will quickly go to when is it never not a good time to do GBL. Everything's better on GBL so why not. You need some willpower if you got a liter or so about.

 

[felix]

Thanks lol yes I do have a question. How come after only a few doses I feel really wired and can't sleep at all.

Well, the short answer is that you've developed a physical addiction to the stuff. You need to take a break. And you need to read up on the years' worth of stuff we've written about this over the years.

 

[belfort]

please-d-u said it doesnt do much after 4-5 doses, what do you mean, 4-5 doses in a day or week or what time frame?

the problem with ghb/gbl is its so easy to come off...either benzos or phenibut/baclofen and u will be off in no time but u will likely be back..

the worst thing again is the sleeping at night..if i take gbl anytime past 6 oclock then my sleep is butchered and i have to take a benzos which usually leaves me groggy in the morning..i get off work at 4 so the main time i like taking Gbl is at night so wtf lol...guess its something ill have to deal with..

 

[ColtDan]

i have found dosing 3 and 4 times just leads to me sitting in a corner nodding out tbh

For me unless i've re-dosed too frequently or the dose is a bit too high, it gets me exactly where i started, could probably party all night on it re-dosing with no probs. altho if i take the piss with it too much i expect it'll change

Trying to sleep on speed combined with GBL rebound is a right shitter, i need some xanax or zops or something for that. altho am more careful now with dosing and havnt had a rebound for a lil while. the restless legs and stuff is horrible. whole thought process on the rebound is some weird shit

 

[pleased]

please-d-u said it doesnt do much after 4-5 doses, what do you mean, 4-5 doses in a day or week or what time frame?

the problem with ghb/gbl is its so easy to come off...either benzos or phenibut/baclofen and u will be off in no time but u will likely be back..

the worst thing again is the sleeping at night..if i take gbl anytime past 6 oclock then my sleep is butchered and i have to take a benzos which usually leaves me groggy in the morning..i get off work at 4 so the main time i like taking Gbl is at night so wtf lol...guess its something ill have to deal with..

Last time I did it.. I took the first dose, worked just fine... by the 4th or 5th dose that night (6 hours later) I wasn't feeling anything at all, just kinda wired... I redosed again like 15 mins later (bad idea I know) but I felt nothing... I was surprised I didn't pass out, so I just ate and decided to watch a movie since I obviously wasn't gonna be able to sleep. My point is before when I used to do this I could keep redosing for 24 hours and every dose would bring back the amazing feeling... now it just stops working and i just feel cranky/tired even if I redose.

 

[belfort]

Last time I did it.. I took the first dose, worked just fine... by the 4th or 5th dose that night (6 hours later) I wasn't feeling anything at all, just kinda wired... I redosed again like 15 mins later (bad idea I know) but I felt nothing... I was surprised I didn't pass out, so I just ate and decided to watch a movie since I obviously wasn't gonna be able to sleep. My point is before when I used to do this I could keep redosing for 24 hours and every dose would bring back the amazing feeling... now it just stops working and i just feel cranky/tired even if I redose.

damn ive never been able to just keep redosing over and over all night long, the magic faded quickly doing it that way and the next morning i felt out of it...yeah, if you are feeling like that now, time to lay off...

thing i hate the most is gbl ruins alcohol for me..drinking alcohol now for me just makes me feel like shit...

 

[belfort]

i have a friend that wants to try GBl strictly for 'sleep purposes'..i told him its a terrible idea but he seems dead set on going ahead with it..he seems to think he will only need 2 doses of Gbl every night to sleep through the night...he is a chronic insomniac and has tried many other sleep aids..i honestly dont know how this would work out but what do you guys think?could Gbl be a sustainable and effective sleep aid long term??

also, how many people have tried L Theanine for Gbl withdrawals?or maybe for the rebound?i just recently tried theanine and damn it is extremely calming..

 

[ColtDan]

Sounds like a stupid idea

 

[lurching]

What dose of L-Theanine for calming effects? Took daily it in benzo WD for a few weeks, didn't seem to do much

..on GHB as sleep aid, look up "Xyrem" a sleeping drug for serious insomniacs. It's pure GHB, produced by the immaculately named Jazz Pharmaceutics. It is only very rarely prescribed cos of all the obvious issues with GHB as a hypnotic but still, it's out there

 

[Treacle]

Yeah, GHB causes you go straight into REM sleep, so, if you're an insomniac, it'll get you straight to sleep and it'll be good sleep. It's also used for narcolepsy, as it provides such a productive sleep, so sufferers are less likely to fall asleep, during the day. GBL would be different. The sharp come up would get you to sleep, and you might even sleep through, but it will probably start waking you up, with a rebound. When I first started GBL, I could take about 4mls in a night, then sleep fine. Then it started to change, and I was waking up early, feeling shit. That's when 24/7 started. Because GHB is gentler and longer lasting, you could probably get away with using it to sleep, so long as you otherwise didn't use it. The problem is drawing that line, and that's something I couldn't manage.

 

[belfort]

What dose of L-Theanine for calming effects? Took daily it in benzo WD for a few weeks, didn't seem to do much

..on GHB as sleep aid, look up "Xyrem" a sleeping drug for serious insomniacs. It's pure GHB, produced by the immaculately named Jazz Pharmaceutics. It is only very rarely prescribed cos of all the obvious issues with GHB as a hypnotic but still, it's out there

yesterday i only took 250 mgs of l theanine and it calmed me down big time...not sure what dosage i would use in a withdrawal type scenario, probably as much as it took as there is no danger to larger doses of l theanine from what ive read..

ive tried gbl for sleep but it would have me waking up every 2-3 hours having to dose again..just that alone made me feel like i wasnt getting proper sleep but the vivid dreams were interesting..

 

[Bare_head]

god how this brings back memories, sar here cold tapering down to 2.5mg of valium tonight :-( no fucking way will i let these benzos kill me, jus be aware with g and if ur using it alot stop before it does get too late. i was lucky to stop with gbl but can see even more addictive properties than etiz/ valium

 

[ColtDan]

The G has started to make me feel kinda ratty sometimes whilst on it, and my vision sometimes goes a lil bit static afterwards, havent been doing massive amounts but re-dosing quite often, think i'll have a couple weeks break. then gap the doses out further when i do it again. For me the best of the effect comes in after the hour mark, i need to urge myself not to redose an hour later and leave it to 2 hours. havent got much left anyway. comparing this stuff with booze i feel much better on booze, i love the horny-ness on this tho

 

[lurching]

If you have the urge to redose so soon, you could try converting your GBL to GHB.
GHB = smoother buzz that lasts longer, an is much less fiendy for me.

 

[ColtDan]

Is it easy to convert? you got a guide for converting it? if not i'll go and look on google in a min. I'd prefer a longer smoother buzz. especially if i get around to replacing booze with G when im out or something. Most of the time i've sipped a pint of water with G in, over 10/15 mins, instead of necking it, i assume that partly lengthens and smoothens GBL abit

 

[felix]

When I first started GBL, I could take about 4mls in a night, then sleep fine. Then it started to change, and I was waking up early, feeling shit. That's when 24/7 started. Because GHB is gentler and longer lasting, you could probably get away with using it to sleep, so long as you otherwise didn't use it. The problem is drawing that line, and that's something I couldn't manage.

Hear, hear. Exactly right.

If you use G for sleep, you're gonna have a hard time not redosing when it's time to actually get up, because doing so will make you feel good. Then the usual story begins...

 

[ColtDan]

G rebound is some annoying shite, my thoughts get louder and scatty, feels like my heart rate increases, cant keep my thoughts focused, then if ive gone quite heavy with it i get the RLS bollocks along side it. I can tell if ive gone a bit too heavy with this wavey feeling that i get. Good job i have benzos. Cant imagine how bad it is to get addicted to it, especially without benzos. i'd still take the G rebound ive had so far over etiz rebound any day

Physically i assume drinking all day vs doing GBL all day the booze is a lot harsher on the body.. and GBL is a lot harsher on the CNS.. i can drink all day and get no rebound etc

 

[pleased]

This damn GBL has ruined my life over and over and it seems like im on the brink of messing it up again. I just keep telling myself that I will only dose a few times after work on Friday to "relax" and then go to sleep, but it NEVER WORKS... suddenly it's Saturday evening and I'm still dosing nonstop since Friday... forgot to eat or sleep or do anything productive at all. Mostly just having sex and/or jerking off nonstop like a damn crackhead, probably worse. I feel so ashamed. And every time I feel worse and worse and it just feels like hell, I really have no idea what the hell I'm doing and why I keep going back to it. The anxiety the paranoia, the tingling in my feet/hands, the shakes, the random bruises everywhere from passing out at home Idk how many times and not remembering... This last time I did 50 ml in less than 24 hours. Managed to sleep yesterday night... but I don't even know if I did. I went to bed at 7pm and just kept waking up every 2 to 3 hours sweating and confused. My time perception is so fucked up that the whole Sunday went by in what felt like 4 hours, every time I looked at the clock 3 or 4 hours had passed. And obviously while high I went and spent half my rent and now I'm in trouble... again!