Harm Reduction How much heat can etizolam take and do i have enough pg

[mtop2036]

I've heard of people putting there etizolam in a waterbath that is 100c(212)fh. for a few minutes then shake. Isnt that way to hot? i mean how much heat can etizolam takes before it lsoes its potency?

Im gonna do 1 g of etiz in1000mg of pg fine? Since everyone tells me thats the best way to do it. but im down to my 650ml if im lucky from my prior attemps(sorry for so many threads) but is 500ml for 1 gram enough? it would make it .5ml. I just hope its enough to dissolves it. Or should I really just invent in more pg?

My prior batches of 10mg 1mg pg for .1mlfor1mg dosnt seem like its failed. Each dose seems consistant but when your taking 14mg at a time who can really tell?

Alot of the Stuff I couldnt get dissoved in heat was just pg air bubbels. I noticed air bubbels in it when I poured out my container to see how much I have left.


And is a plastic bottle ok just to make the solution in? If I have to add heat what temprature willl melt the bottle thanks.

 

[mtop2036]

bump

i know ive made alot of threads about it and its my first time with powde and im terrifed abut it. any answers please?

 

[sekio]

Etizolam is stable under pretty tough conditions, 100C in a water bath is absolutely fine and it won't lose potency. Etizolam is not destroyed by heat at low temperatures, you would need to heat it to at least 300-400C to see decomposition.

Stick to dissolving 1mg in 1mL. If you don't have enough propylene glycol to make a 1mg per mL solution, then only use some, not all of your etizolam to make a solution. Don't make it any more concentrated than 1mg per mL or you risk having it not dissolve. However, if you have had success dissolving more than 1mg per mL, then you can do that too. For instance if you only have 650mL of PG then you should maybe weigh out 500mg of your etizolam on a piece of regular white office paper cut down to size. Scrape any residue off the paper with the dull side of a knife or something. If you lose a few milligrams on the paper it's not a big deal. To dissolve your 500mg etizolam powder add it to 500 mL of pre-warmed propylene glycol. Stir it well and it should dissolve in a few minutes.

If you pre-warm propylene glycol it will thin out and the air bubbles should be less of an issue. Also, warming the propylene glycol FIRST and then adding the tizolam, will make it dissolve faster than just mixing them cold. Air bubbles in your propylene glycol won't hurt. They will dissipate as the solution settles.

You will need to see what kind of material your bottle is made of to see when it will melt. Look online to see if you can identify what kind of plastic it is. If it is HDPE or LDPE then it's good to use, if it's polycarbonate or PET (like a pop bottle) it's not good to use in boiling water. Glass bottles can crack if you suddenly cool them (like dropping a hot bottle into an ice bath) but are otherwise fine to heat in a boilking water bath.

I hope this answers your questions.

 

[mtop2036]

shoot just had a long reply written out that I lost.

Thanks seiko thats the most information ive got out of all these threads. IM not trying to annoy anyone with these threads this shit scares me. Just trying to be safe. Sorry to anyone I offened.

My first trials I was trying 10mg1ml and I think it worked for the most part. Most of the stuff I saw floating twoards the end was just air bubbels and doses seem consistent. I did it that diluted because didnt want to drink all that pg. But its not so bad.

If I could I would like to try 1000mg to 500ml to get a .5ml to 1mg ration but probably stick to 1 to 1 to just be safe.

I'd like it if others can chime in about their dilutions and their experience with how they came out.

So drinking like 30ml of pg is ok(not that I need that much, yet). IM going to flavor it with hard candy flavorings.(not the whole bottle but just make it up as i dose)

Any advice about the flavorings? Loranns brand seems to be the top dog but have trouble finding it anywhere else than the internet. But what kind of retail store sells flavorings? Like a bakery supply store? craft store? I dont think theres any candy making stores. ANyone have exeperience flavoring their pg?

Anyways thanks as always.

 

[RivieraLife]

Hi, in my experience you can do higher concentrations than 1mg/ml pretty easily just by pre-warming the PG like sekio said. If you're worried then go for say 2mg per ml, but higher concentrations are totally possible as you've seen without the etizolam dropping out of the solution. I've never had a problem consuming a few mls of PG before, I couldn't tell you what the most I've had at once is, maybe 5-10mls. It's easier to just consume less PG though, if your tolerance is kinda high then making stronger concentrations (measured properly of course) makes sense, as long as you make sure you store it safely, out of anyone who could get hurt's reach. It's also less gross!

Last time I made any it was 5mg per ml, so .2ml for 1mg. I made this with 20mls of PG and 100mg etizolam. Warm the PG up first, make sure the powder doesn't have any lumps so it dissolves easier, then dump it in and stir. It's best if you leave it to sit for a while, like a couple of hours, stirring frequently, every 10-30 minutes or so. What worked really well was resting the container that held the solution in a bowl of hot water while stirring, it dissolved quite quickly that way.

I don't have much experience with flavouring it to be honest, I presume you're taking it sublingually? If you were doing it orally I'd suggest just having it in a drink, that works fine. For flavourings I'd guess baking supply stores, or supermarkets. Food flavourings can contain PG anyway, in addition to the other stuff, so like you said I'd stick to adding flavourings per dose rather than to your batch cause you'd end up with less mgs per ml, unless you (I dunno pulling random numbers out of the air here) had say 96mls of pure PG and 4mls of flavourings to make it up to 100ml.

If you had a fairly concentrated PG/etizolam mixture so that you only needed a small amount of liquid per dose you could perhaps get some sort of absorbent candy and drop it on that.

 

[pinpoint]

Here's an idea: try to consolidate the 15+ threads you've made on essentially the same topic into one single thread. We'll have a 'mtop questions MEGATHREAD' just for you, buddy.

Also, wasn't this you last year: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/728379-Horrible-Etizolam-Withdrawl you don't want to go back there, do you?

 

[mtop2036]

Absolutley not and pleaseno mega thread

 

[mtop2036]

Etizolam is stable under pretty tough conditions, 100C in a water bath is absolutely fine and it won't lose potency. Etizolam is not destroyed by heat at low temperatures, you would need to heat it to at least 300-400C to see decomposition.

Stick to dissolving 1mg in 1mL. If you don't have enough propylene glycol to make a 1mg per mL solution, then only use some, not all of your etizolam to make a solution. Don't make it any more concentrated than 1mg per mL or you risk having it not dissolve. However, if you have had success dissolving more than 1mg per mL, then you can do that too. For instance if you only have 650mL of PG then you should maybe weigh out 500mg of your etizolam on a piece of regular white office paper cut down to size. Scrape any residue off the paper with the dull side of a knife or something. If you lose a few milligrams on the paper it's not a big deal. To dissolve your 500mg etizolam powder add it to 500 mL of pre-warmed propylene glycol. Stir it well and it should dissolve in a few minutes.

If you pre-warm propylene glycol it will thin out and the air bubbles should be less of an issue. Also, warming the propylene glycol FIRST and then adding the tizolam, will make it dissolve faster than just mixing them cold. Air bubbles in your propylene glycol won't hurt. They will dissipate as the solution settles.

You will need to see what kind of material your bottle is made of to see when it will melt. Look online to see if you can identify what kind of plastic it is. If it is HDPE or LDPE then it's good to use, if it's polycarbonate or PET (like a pop bottle) it's not good to use in boiling water. Glass bottles can crack if you suddenly cool them (like dropping a hot bottle into an ice bath) but are otherwise fine to heat in a boilking water bath.

I hope this answers your questions.

Yup my bottle says PETE which is the same as PET so thanks definitely saved me on that one. Just gonna have to wait until I can afford more glass.

Riverial life what are your opinions on doing 1000mg 500ml. It would be better HR with my high dozing.


Thanks for allow the help. And sorry I don't want a mega thread but I think a dissolving powders in diffrent solutions is an exclence idea with all true threads asking about it(not just me).

And sorry for the double post I still dnt know how to quote multiple quotes