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UK Ketamine Thread v.2 - shortage or not?

to be honest.. from the description one thing came into my mind..

ket smuggled in a petrol tank that wasnt totally sealed.. hence the stink of fuel and the large crystal that obviously grew during transport..

maybe i'm wrong but thats what i thought when i read it
 
There has been high purity ketamine in Bristol sporadically recently.

Prices are still high enough to put off most though - 50 pounds up to 70 pounds a gram, with that gram ranging from a 0.8 (or maybe sometimes 0.7!) up to bang on.

I saw someone bring a litre to a house recently and all 50 grams were sold within 45 - 60 mins!!

I underestimated how my tolerance had changed in the year or so since I'd had a proper line and ended up a mess!! I wouldn't say it was S-isomer and all trippy but it was very enjoyable. Plus much better than last so called k I bought which I had a phat line of and seemed salt mixed with a little diphenidine!!! Anyone who knows <snip> in Bristol - named and shamed!

Anyway the K availability and quality is slowly improving here, very slowly. The result on our rave scene has been that valium has become incredibly big (mostly boxed NHS well done knock offs circa 7ish mg at a guess some maybe 5... not sure def no higher than 8mg each. These boxes are seemingly endless tho. Must be around UK too?? Coke has risen in popularity as something to sniff and I like to think amphet may have too. Also sadly many former K heads are drifting into heroin addiction here... :(
 
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Coltdan S-isomer (esp IM) and PCP and 4meo and esp 3meo PCP all are v intereesting. MXE was always a crap K substitute imo. NOT AS BAD AS THE LATER ONES THO!! DIPHENIDENE!!! LMAO!!!

I really really wished PCP analogues got more wide exposure and praise in the current K situation. You could cut 3meo once or sell half grams or even tiny 100mg shots and if people gave it a chance it would find popularity. But the letters PCP like those METH just blind people.
 
How'd you mean, Valium is becoming big on the rave scene? People are necking them to get wonky that way?? Hahaha... That's mental..
 
blue_cheese said:
Just bumping my question about the ket. So no one has heard of large crystal form before?

My friend has sampled this and believes it to be ketamine, but hes inexperienced and im still skeptical.

Bearlove u mentioned that ketamine does not cook like this. Ive been told it can form large crystals though but just takes a while (leaving it on a windowsill to evaporate or something)

Cheers for the replies tho. Do u think 'shambles' would mind me giving him a pm to ask if he's any ideas as to what it is (or what it isnt might be a more answerable question)
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Maybe underground labs are having a go at the extremely difficult synthesis, since foreign pharma grade stuff doesn't seem to be getting to Europe very much these days.
If it is badly made impure ketamine then you should really avoid it, many of the synthesis precursors and byproducts are very nephro- and neurotoxic.

Could you post a picture, I'm intruiged.

But just know, there is no way for anyone to reliably ID a substance based on a picture or description of effects, I'm pretty sure it's against bluelight rules to even ask us.
 
omt said:
There has been high purity ketamine in Bristol sporadically recently.

Prices are still high enough to put off most though - 50 pounds up to 70 pounds a gram, with that gram ranging from a 0.8 (or maybe sometimes 0.7!) up to bang on.
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Crazy price, sod that
 
I suppose it's slightly better than selling 0.8 with 0.2 cutting agent :\ It's probably already cut anyway.

It reminds me of 'No mate, it's not light, I sell 25g ounces, just like baccy' 8(
 
englandgz74 said:
Tell the cunt that its illegal to sell things in ounces in the EU nowadays....report him to the police for braking trading standards regs :)
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Precisely, it's important that we the consumer demand our consumer rights are met. If it continues then I'd advise contacting Watchdog and get them on the case.
 
Ketamine is defo making a comeback im pleased to say :) Well if thats anything to do with the more listings on 'those' websites. Still at £40/50g though. So for us with the kind of tolerance only a ket worshipping twat would accumulate; its not really worth it
 
Spliff Politics said:
Ketamine is defo making a comeback im pleased to say :) Well if thats anything to do with the more listings on 'those' websites. Still at £40/50g though. So for us with the kind of tolerance only a ket worshipping twat would accumulate; its not really worth it
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But is it actually real/pre-2012 ketamine they are selling? Sadly, all the "A++ banging ket", "sick oldschool needles 11/10" and "never been so high before" feedback on the listings doesn't say much--I've seen such positive (fake?) feedback for all types of faux ketamine over the last few years :(
 
Ive tried 2 recently within the past week. 1 was 100% S isomer with no cuts and the other was racemic, again with no cuts to me questionably trained eye. Have got a third from a different vendor arriving, but looks like it wont be today :(
 
Me too Housefever. Have 3 on the way; will update once it arrives. If ive just spent £120 on shyte then i'll probably continuously sniff it throughout the night in the hope of getting a wonk from it.
 
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[TD]Submitter: Sold as ketamine. Sample was submitted by the San Francisco DanceSafe chapter because the expected ketamine had a green reaction to the Mandelin reagent instead of the expected reddish/brown/orange color.

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[TD]Erowid Note: We've been working on this for the last couple weeks trying to sort out why the ketamine has a green reaction to the Mandelin. We initially established that the Mandelin reagent appears to be good by testing the same bottle against known samples. Mandelin reagent from DanceSafe is good.

Lab did deeper analysis and re-analyzed both ketamine samples from this week and did Selected Ion Monitoring (SIM) and looked at all of the possible bumps in the GC. Nothing obvious.

Current theories include:

1) A mineral or other simple molecule or atom that alters mandelin reaction and overwhelms or blocks the normal ketamine reaction.

2) That a different salt or isomer of ketamine reacts differently than the normal Ketamine HCl that dominates the ketamine market.

We are working to try to narrow down the possibilities. At this point (Jan 22 2015), we are not sure why this sample is showing up green with Mandelin, but all indications are that it is ketamine.[/TD]
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http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3434
 
UK folks wishing to confirm the identity of substances would do well to send a small sample to Wedinos who provide free testing facilities.

FWIW, the "ping pong ball size crystals" stuff mentioned above sounds deeply suspect to me. Have only ever seen MDMA xtal that resembles that description but there really is no way of knowing without getting it tested.
 
Shambles said:
UK folks wishing to confirm the identity of substances would do well to send a small sample to Wedinos who provide free testing facilities.

FWIW, the "ping pong ball size crystals" stuff mentioned above sounds deeply suspect to me. Have only ever seen MDMA xtal that resembles that description but there really is no way of knowing without getting it tested.
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The thing that'd concern me more is that if it's a arylcyclohexylamine and brown: the types of synthesis impurities in this class of drugs are generally extremely physically and neurologically toxic.
 
Shambles said:
UK folks wishing to confirm the identity of substances would do well to send a small sample to Wedinos who provide free testing facilities.

FWIW, the "ping pong ball size crystals" stuff mentioned above sounds deeply suspect to me. Have only ever seen MDMA xtal that resembles that description but there really is no way of knowing without getting it tested.
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Ping Pong size balls, I have no idea who said that. The size of the crystals are say, a 0.05gram rock, half the size of a pea, a tenth the size of an malnourished satsuma, half the size of a WB pencil end eraser, a fire ants body. Not huge like has been said, but its like ive never seen it before, but its awesome.

Its pure translucent crystals.
 
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