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Dominick16

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I've just bought an ounce of BHO concrete (wax/crumble) that tested at 92% THC. Well that's kinda high considering 6%-12% of a concrete is waxes and lipids. I'm considering Winterizing half of it, making it into an absolute (a shatter or snap), and to be honest it's mostly just out of curiosity of what is going to be left. Does anyone have experience winterizing really high THC concretes? If so please share.
 
make sure you use the highest proof grain alcohol possible, I think 175 or something like that. Also, watch your temps when you boil off the alcohol as you can easily overcook your product. Might try a small trial run before hand before running the entire batch..

92% is crazy high, where did you get your stuff tested at just out of curiosity? was it expensive?

Personally I love abosolute shatter. has such a smooth hit and clean taste compared to vac purged alone.
 
You need 100% lab grade ethanol. Any water will fuck up solvent polarity allowing waxes and other unwanted plant items to be extracted as well.
 
interesting point tacodude, I never heard that before but I don't doubt it.

My question is tho, you are using more than just solvent polarity to extract the fats/lipids correct? The process involves cooling the liquid below water freezing temperature and then is filtered out. Surely you get a bulk of the fats/lipids out, so I don't think it's right to call it a complete waste of time.. of course that is my opinion. and wouldn't the water in the solution essentially freeze out when put at appropriate temperature?
 
It is impossible for a wax to have more than 80% THC due plant waxes and fats, It is more likely anywhere from 50%-65% THC. Oil at 90% or above is made through further refining BHO with $1000+ dollar equipment that is only available in places like California, Colorado, and Washington, always clear and nearly tasteless.
See this: http://www.clearconcentrate.org/
Also if the oil is already "waxed" I do not think you can revert it to shatter. You have to maintain a tempature below 110F so that the THC and other cannabinoids do not oxidase into a wax.
 
Mafioso said:
interesting point tacodude, I never heard that before but I don't doubt it.

My question is tho, you are using more than just solvent polarity to extract the fats/lipids correct? The process involves cooling the liquid below water freezing temperature and then is filtered out. Surely you get a bulk of the fats/lipids out, so I don't think it's right to call it a complete waste of time.. of course that is my opinion. and wouldn't the water in the solution essentially freeze out when put at appropriate temperature?
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when you lower the solvent temperature it not only losses capacity, but becomes more selective in polarity. Wax that absorbs at high temps crash out at colder temps as well as excess goodies depending on ratios. The trick is using not to much yet not to little solvent and knowing exactly what temps to hit... I'd love to try it some day
 
Have you tried activated charcoal? how about freezing some ethanol/acetone to re-dissolve?
 
FractalMe said:
It is impossible for a wax to have more than 80% THC due plant waxes and fats, It is more likely anywhere from 50%-65% THC. Oil at 90% or above is made through further refining BHO with $1000+ dollar equipment that is only available in places like California, Colorado, and Washington, always clear and nearly tasteless.
See this: http://www.clearconcentrate.org/
Also if the oil is already "waxed" I do not think you can revert it to shatter. You have to maintain a tempature below 110F so that the THC and other cannabinoids do not oxidase into a wax.
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The temperature and humidity of the lab during the extraction and the purity of the solvent (butane) used, wether or not the buds (not trim) is fresh or cured and if cured how long and at what temperature, and if, during extraction, it is frozen all plays a role in the amount of terpene loss and the amount of waxes and lipids that dissolve in the solvent, not to mention the original terpene/cannabinoid profile of the original flower. And when you cure the buds until they're frangible, thoroughly freeze them before extraction, use N-butane, and selectively pick a high THC strain, then purge the butane solution in a vacuum oven not only do you increase the ratio of THC to cannabinoids but you also minimize the amount of terpenes in your bud and the amount of waxes and lipid absorbed. This gives you the ability to create (I'm going to apologize by using the word wax in my first post I think it might have created a misundsranding about the type of concentrate I bought) a crumble with minimal terpene, cannabinoid, wax, and lipid weight which only leaves room for THC so with experience, equipment, and choice bud (not trim) the sky's the limit.


Clear concentrates are not exceptionally pure concentrates they are a mild to moderate yellow tinted concentrate mixed with industrially produces terpenes from other species of plant. At the rate the industry is moving and with some technologies on the horizon it's almost with in our grasp to extract the terpenes from the the plant material before the solvented extraction the add them back into the concentrate but that isn't what clear concentrates is doing.
 
I hate hash reprofiled with extra terpenes. I want to know how solventless live resins are done. I bet it requires super organic and probably flushed bud as high content of w.e alkaloids. Someone hinted me at the concept, but I couldn't imagine how to get it done.
 
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