Is everybody addicted to something?

[Noodle]

I once told a caring parent why I use.

It is because I feel too much.

 

[Smoky]

Ultimately everything always boils down to semantics, are we all "addicted" to food? I guess you could say we are if you are loose with your definition of addiction. I think it has more to do with what the Buddha called dukkha (desire, craving, suffering, dissatisfaction) you could use drugs as mere tools and while you could still get physically addicted if you had the right mind set you would never be mentally addicted. I believe this to be possible for an enlightened person.

This is an interesting perspective. I am familiar with the cycle of samsara. Because I have been through chemical dependency before, this next time (clean now), I was able to not take the suffering as personal. It's personal to me, but I didn't let the thoughts dictate who I am. Was still awful, as one's neurochemistry changes
It wasn't easy, and I had morbid thoughts, as my natural endorphins were not existing in my brain… as well as much dissociation in withdrawal. This is common.

On the contrary even an enlightened person cannot control tolerance, and if one is enlightened why would they be dependent on drugs (physically addicted)?
I do understand using substances to expand consciousness… on occasion, sure… but people will use to their death sometimes. This seems to still be in the cycle of suffering, not enlightenment… Someone's liver is failing due to drug use, but they don't become mentally addicted, per say? Are the two separate? Not so sure.

Good points though indeed… more to ponder. thanks!

 

[dopemaster]

This is an excellent forum.

I can count so many vices off the top off my head that I personally have had.

I get addicted to just about anything (hobbies, sports, drugs, drinking, sex, manipulation, head games, self mutilation, tattoos)

As far as sex went we thought up all sorts of weird shit especially once we got cameras on our phones. A few of my friends and I would place bets on who could film various sexual acts or have sex with who. Hell one time we did a pool to see who had the biggest dick and just all emailed at the same time.

I had a few friends where we played chicken and came up with new variations, mostly involving tasers.

I spent a great deal of time building skateboard ramps, boxes, rails, and such just to end up in the hospital countless times. Same thing with snowboarding. I think I am the only person who managed to break a snowboard in half among my peers in high school.

As a kid I think everyone huffed a bit of glue and maybe some gas. For me, I kept doing it throughout most my child hood.

I used to play cards and cheat. After a while it was best to stop.

The type of shit that goes down at tattoo conventions you might not want to even know about. I met some interesting people there. It seems like most of them really got off on the endorphins and I get that. I remember cutting and burning myself just for the endorphins. I stopped doing that rather quickly as I would have killed myself by accident as I almost bleed out. I am just glad no one found me in that state or I would have been instutionalized.

I love to fuck with peoples heads. I come across as such a nice guy and I am for the most part. But once I see someone I really despise. Someone who stands for shit I am against, I take that motherfucker down. It is very easy to be smooth and savage at the same time.

I am still addicted to drugs, sex, and even what do for a living. Once I start drawing nothing can stop me until I go into serious drug withdrawal.

I get completely obsessed with shit I enjoy doing, just like typing this response. I actually have to be up in the morning.

We are in my opinion just evolved highly animals with both a large scale of freewill, excellent motor skills, and we simply both thrive and suffer in an environment created by our ancestors and for what reasons: the biggest two would be conquest or to keep the peace.

So when you put us in little boxes (fucking cubicles and trailers, not that a mansion can't become a prison to its owner) it is no wonder we develop various habits because the world we live in is not exactly natural. We evolve around it the best we can so it is only natural to indulge in various chemicals, pleasures of the flesh (biology, need to reproduce), fucking with people (natural selection) and various ticks as coping strategies (cracking your knuckles, smoking a cigarette, chewing a straw).

The trick is to know whats up and when things go to far. You also need to know the consequences.

But nothing and I mean nothing will stop people from auto-erotic affixiation masturbation to japenese fecal porn, bible thumpers from yelling "god hates fags", or my grandmother from taking every benzodiazapine in the book. Nothing.

It comes down to coping mechanisms as we work some menial part of a machine so that everything is provided for everyone.

It is communism and capitalism merged at it's finest.

If I had not typed this shit, you would have never known it about me if you had met me in person at my "day job."

 

[Ninae]

Is that like Red Bull? What are you talking about?

No, like pure water from a stream?

Have you ever tried to gather and drink rain water? (assuming you don't live in a very polluted area)

It has nothing in common with tap water. No chemicals, completely pure taste, even aromatic so you actually feel a craving for it. It also has vitality in it and doesn't taste completely dead. There's no craving to drink tap water, you pretty much have to force it in you.

 

[ForEverAfter]

You can buy spring water, of varying quality, pretty much anywhere in the world... if you have the money.
I doubt very much that there's anyone on this forum who has only tasted tap water.

Depending on where you live, there's absolutely nothing wrong with tap water.
I've lived in different countries, where I've tried to only drink bottle water.
But here, in Australia, the water is fine.

I've unfiltered injected tap water many hundreds of times.

 

[Shadowsblaze]

One habit or addiction that really yanks on my chain is the habitual liar. One fellow in particular I know never stops and tells some tails that I think he believes to be true but they are so far fetched and elaborate that he's constantly caught in them but no one says anything because he's a big boy and conflicts with him are to be avoided. I want to tell a tale but am afraid he might out of pure coincidence read this. I'm sure others have met this type of personality and I would really like to find a way to approach him on the subject. A while back I made a comment to others at a party about how there was a law to be put in place about pretending to be in the military and he over heard me and stopped his stories about his career that most knew were false. Boy I hope he never see's this and puts two and two together. The whoppers are really something else though.

 

[Ninae]

You can buy spring water, of varying quality, pretty much anywhere in the world... if you have the money.
I doubt very much that there's anyone on this forum who has only tasted tap water.

Depending on where you live, there's absolutely nothing wrong with tap water.
I've lived in different countries, where I've tried to only drink bottle water.
But here, in Australia, the water is fine.

I've unfiltered injected tap water many hundreds of times.

Most of what is sold as spring water is just purified tap water.

I can't really stand tap water any more because of the strong chemical taste. They're adding far too much chlorine and other chemicals to sterilise it. For months I've only been drinking juice as I can't bare the taste.

The purest water is that which comes up through vegetables and fruits as that has been naturally purified.

 

[Ninae]

This is an excellent forum.

That's a lot of intensity to live with on a daily basis.

 

[Smoky]

One habit or addiction that really yanks on my chain is the habitual liar. One fellow in particular I know never stops and tells some tails that I think he believes to be true but they are so far fetched and elaborate that he's constantly caught in them but no one says anything because he's a big boy and conflicts with him are to be avoided. I want to tell a tale but am afraid he might out of pure coincidence read this. I'm sure others have met this type of personality and I would really like to find a way to approach him on the subject. A while back I made a comment to others at a party about how there was a law to be put in place about pretending to be in the military and he over heard me and stopped his stories about his career that most knew were false. Boy I hope he never see's this and puts two and two together. The whoppers are really something else though.

Sometimes this is nature sometimes nurture. There are studies of gray brain matter in a specific area, other times it is learned and could be from deep injury from lack of love or attention onto another sibling from parental units. Does he come off as very grandious as well? Does he lack empathy? Sense of self importance? Although, maybe some schizoid too, with tall tails. idk
Pathological liars have some overlap with Narcissistic personality disorder… Some cannot be honest with themselves as it will be their death, to the extreme. and suffer intensely with incredible feelings of inferiority. To make up for this they project the opposite, create stories, draw attention and lie. Avoidance of conflict is part of this at times. The made up stories can be their only persona … but are an empty shell underneath. They have no true identity. It's difficult to sit with this typology. I've heard if you feed it, it will lower the grandiosity… If they have any empathy.

I could be wrong, but I've known a few myself and it runs on my father's side.
My sister almost married a pathological liar, she cut ties the week prior to the wedding. Found out all the documents he had were false including his master's degree

 

[Birc0014]

not too long ago i developed a habit of biting the inside of my cheeks... i would get blisters inside my cheeks but i would still continue...

trying to fall asleep was the hardest part about it... during the night i couldnt stop and it would drive me crazy...

about a week and a half ago i decided to stop... it was difficult at first but now its better... i still feel like doing it though... today i did it just once...



im addicted to soda now and plan to stop tomorrow... soda has always been a problem in my life and iv tried to quit a few times already... hopefully this time goes well

but the op and previous responses make me think that even if i kick the soda thing i will just move on to something else... oh well lol

HAHAHA! Wow this could be me godamn cheek biting gingerale addiction! Now if I could just kick these dillys...

 

[Birc0014]

Most of what is sold as spring water is just purified tap water.

I can't really stand tap water any more because of the strong chemical taste. They're adding far too much chlorine and other chemicals to sterilise it. For months I've only been drinking juice as I can't bare the taste.

The purest water is that which comes up through vegetables and fruits as that has been naturally purified.

You should get a Brita...I know its charcol, but I like to use it and then fill a big open mouth decanter and plant it in the fridge over night. You can also just fill the decanter with tap water and do the same. I find the chem taste evaporates overnight and leaves the water tasting cleaner

 

[Ninae]

Boling it also makes it easier to ingest.

 

[Erikmen]

I tried boiling but that´s also a little tasty..

 

[Ninae]

It's filtered on its way up through the stem and plants are full of cleansing enzymes and anti-oxidants. That's hardly magic.

 

[Birc0014]

Sure, fruits and vegetables are loaded with antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, etc., but I'm pretty sure polluted water doesn't get filtered/ purified through the stem.

Neither does the ecoli that gets sprayed on it everyday or any of the contaminents in the soild/groundwater. Unless you are growing your edibles in a fishtank yew eatin pew

 

[Journyman16]

Aquaponics works extremely well. You grow your FISH in the fish tank, not your veggies, and the water goes into a growbed where one kind of bacteria turns ammonia into nitrites and another type turns nitrites into nitrate which the veggies LURVE... Pure organic veggies, lots of nutrients and phenomenal growth rates.

Cheap as hell too - I'm not even a 1/4 into an $80 bag of fish food after 2 years, the water pump runs on ~50watts and the air pump (not strictly needed but improves resilience in the fish) is about 10watts.

:D I'm trying to get addicted to healthy stuff. Make my own bread, eat fresh food from local sources, use reverse osmosis water, never ate margarine, pretty much stopped sugar years back (use Nativa where needed) and got rid of toothpaste years back... having a few issues with beer and wine - but in Australia we have excellent red wine choices and I stay with the craft beers that have no weird shit in them. :D

Also only drink (rather superb if I do say so) espresso coffee from a local roaster and made myself... :D

 

[Birc0014]

You eat way too healthy,I'm pretty sure that gives you cancer eventually. My body rejects anything that isnt processed and or refined, I believe I will be preserved for the next 1000 years so its kind of like I will live forever right?

 

[Smoky]

I'm eating healthier too, as much as possible. It makes up for the coffee and ice cream, and my past addictions.
Seriously though, I can't eat fried food, my stomach will reject it or meats… for the most part. It's like a foreign object to my system.

 

[swilow]

As an alternative perspective, perhaps it is heroin that is addicted to humans, not the other way around...

 

[Ninae]

Sure, fruits and vegetables are loaded with antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, etc., but I'm pretty sure polluted water doesn't get filtered/ purified through the stem.

Of course it's polluted in many ways. I didn't say it was pure. However it's VERY pure and vital compared to typical tap water which hasn't been in contact with nature for God knows how long.