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..ping englandz

Hope Englandgz is ok, most probably he is just busy with work at the moment and will be back posting when he has the time.
 
Last seen going off in a huff, following some loudmouthed idiot spouting off with lousy "harm reduction" advice that was anything but. And I can't say I blame him, seeing as he had enough on his plate without arguing the toss with some tosser -- it'd make anyone toss the towel in.

I'm sure he'll be back when he's ready.
 
Well I guess I couldn't stay away haha!!

Thank you so much for the kind words. Maybe I over reacted the other day but that prick made me so mad. Pretty much the only reason I'm here is to try to help promote harm reduction and hopefully stop someone from hurting themselves and when people post ridiculous stuff like that guy (and its allowed to stay up) it just made me think that maybe the hr message is lost completely.......BUT perhaps I was being unreasonable. Most of the folkss here...like 95% are lovely kind decent people but any board is a subset of society and there will be idiots.... I just need to learn to deal with it better (that prick was something else though lol!!��)

The thing is when people say..."oh that could kill you" or the like its an abstract concept to most people but when you've knelt over people laying stone dead in a puddle of their own piss, blood and puke with their family and little kids screaming their heads off while you try to jump start their daddy's heart back to life or search desperately for a vein to give adrenalin and fluid and their is non cos he's. Ruined then all with terrible injection. Technique in isnt abstract any more its real. The concept of hr becomes more meaningful. As most know other than my prescribed stuff and occasional roids I'm not a drug user but i believe every human has sovereignty over their own body to do what they want providing they don't hurt anyone else. Howeverofen hurting ones self is hurting someone else so safety and good knowledge of what one is doing is vital.

Apart from the hr stuff i miss talking to the lovely people on here...Felix, Kate, julie, mdb, max, scotchy, blondin, fg,fibar inflo, Dan and all the other folk ive missed so i thought maybe i was being silly chucking my toys out the pram (but if that guy was facing ne in real life i would have knocked the cunt out.....of course i would have brought him round again and took him to a&e for a check up afterwards though hahaha!!!).

Anyway i can stay long I'm just on a break (we've had to go to Sunderland station so my mate can get some new pants as some insensitive clod has bled all over them!!!!).

Well take care folks ill be back soon...oh and Felix that cd didn't arrive but my friend posted me a letter days ago and that hasn't arrived either.....i think there is a problem with the post....hopefully ill get it soon...thanks mate and happy birthday for the other day.

Other news (this guy is gonna be ages changing his pants as i think he fancies the lass in the stores). I'm having another go at CTing my methadone.....on day 5 (again). but got some clonidine, pregabalin and hopefully so e diazepam tomorrow or Saturday and a strong mental will to succeed and itz not as bad this time....
Much love folks
 
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I honestly didn't plan to be but I got bored. The big problem with this interweb thingy is when people wind you up the usual option (my personal go to) of punching their lights out isn't really practical when they're 3,000 miles away.....i think I need to learn a suitable alternative strategy ��
 
Thanks Julie....although if you've ever been caught in the infamous. Sunderland one-way system that's quite difficult to get out of as well.....which I must go and negotiate now cos I've got to get back to work....

Probs be on tomorrow sometime though cos I'm off work

Take care lovely people ❤
 
I gave felix your E-mail as you advised n just mentioned the HR thing. I'm glad you're back you're a valued member of EADD. yr posts are valued n informative. I think HR is taken serious by many here as i wrote in my post in support. People are always here for each n its a close knit community. There's always going to be a few black sheep in a herd of white sheep it's just the way of the world.

Evey
 
Good to see you about mate - Gl with everything - and yes there are some arseholes in here but le you say it a mirror to the society with live in so fuck em.
So how are you now planning to get off the 'done? you seem to have some good pharms to help (if yoiu have in quantity rather than just stalling the process). Its a shame you cant get on a short acting opiate/oid in terms of 1/2 life you could then spend 2-3 weeks on them so your clear of 'done then do a fastt 2 week taper.
Don't be a stranger and still have much respect for te service you provide unconditionally to the poor sods who need help.
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englandgz74 said:
... people post ridiculous stuff like that guy (and its allowed to stay up) it just made me think that maybe the hr message is lost completely...
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We don't generally remove bad advice - even when really bad - because there are many, many misconceptions and just plain terrible "received wisdom" out there in DruggyWorld and I would suggest that exposing ignorance, refuting it with real HR info - almost always from a variety of voices - is very much the essence of HR in action.

Also, welcome back :)<3
 
englandgz74 said:
I honestly didn't plan to be but I got bored. The big problem with this interweb thingy is when people wind you up the usual option (my personal go to) of punching their lights out isn't really practical when they're 3,000 miles away.....i think I need to learn a suitable alternative strategy ��
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A little opposition then can be a source of learning, wouldnt you say?
i do hope you stick around :)
 
Well well, someone finally put the toys back in his pram and replaced his dummy. :D

Only joking. We've all had a flounce for various reasons and nearly all have come back. It's all part of the fun. Welcome back!

I'm sure the DVD will turn up soon. (And in case anyone's wondering, that's not a secret code for "drugs", it's an actual DVD. ;p)

Shambles said:
We don't generally remove bad advice - even when really bad - because there are many, many misconceptions and just plain terrible "received wisdom" out there in DruggyWorld and I would suggest that exposing ignorance, refuting it with real HR info - almost always from a variety of voices - is very much the essence of HR in action.
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This is exactly right. And it's annoying as fuck sometimes. But a well-reasoned argument against stupidity is far, far, better than a dry list of plain facts that go unchallenged. All information (even that which most of us think is correct and well-established) should be examined and questioned.

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Sometimes it's best to say your piece and walk away. :)


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I gave felix your E-mail as you advised
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Got it, thanks.
 
Not a secret code for drugs. Haha!!! That made me laugh!!!

I'm gutted though Felix cos that and another very important letter has gone astray. Either soneones stealing my post or there's a problem at the post office or something.

I do agree about the well structured argument but what if someone posts something stupid and harmful and no one gets round to refuting it?.....then some poor sod follows said advice?...just saying &#55357;&#56835;

PS....that drawing literally made me lol!
 
englandgz74 said:
I do agree about the well structured argument but what if someone posts something stupid and harmful and no one gets round to refuting it?.....then some poor sod follows said advice?...just saying ��
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What if, what if, what if...

It's on all of us to do our bit to refute incorrect information. Nobody says this place is perfect, and the weight of the world is not on anyone's shoulders. But the more of us contribute, the more effective the site's HR function works.

If you see something dodgy and don't have time to respond, hit the Report button and let the mods have a look at it with some urgency. :)

p.s. About a hundred members of staff on BL have access to every Report that's made, btw.
 
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