Brazillian citizen executed in Indonesia on drug related charges

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http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidi...rte-por-trafico-e-fuzilado-na-indonesia.shtml

Its in Portuguese, I will translate:

The Rio native Marco Archer Cardoso Moreira, 53, was executed by firing squad at 15:30 this Saturday (17), Brasilia time in Indonesia.

Confirmation was given by Tony Spontana, spokesman for the Asian country's Attorney General. The execution took place at 0:30 Sunday 18 at the time Indonesia, within the complex of Nusakambangan prison in Cilacap, 400 km from the capital Jakarta.

The death was officially confirmed at 0h45 local time (at 15.45 GMT).

Marco was the first Brazilian citizen in history to be executed by the death penalty.

He had been arrested in 2003 and convicted in 2004 for drug trafficking. Besides him, five other people were executed. On the eve of death, the Brazilian was visited by his aunt, Maria de Lourdes Archer Pinto, 61, and two officials from the Brazilian embassy in Jakarta. The aunt had brought sweet milk and honey to her nephew.

She cried a lot since the early morning, before the imminent firing. "Marco does not deserve it." Marco wept, said farewell and "kissed a lot," said Maria de Lourdes.

The Brazillian citizen was arrested while trying to enter Indonesia with 13.4kg of cocaine hidden inside his hang-glider.


Another victim of the war on Drugs. RIP
 
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poledriver said:
Yeah, they mentioned him in the article I posted on the Bali 9, but I didnt know he was the first ever Brazilian to be executed.

Here is the link to where they mentioned him-

http://www.smh.com.au/world/drug-tr...first-executions-of-2015-20150117-12sbid.html
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Yes, and the Brazillian government is very upset with the Indonesian government, Brazil has never had the capital punishment, not even during the colonial time with slavery and everything. Brazil has asked its ambassador in Indonesia to come back to Brazil and I wouldn't mind if we broke relations with them tbh. I do not want to ever visit Indonesia nor spend my money there.
 
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One Thousand Words said:
Do you think he was smuggling 13kg of cocaine for aulturistic reasons?
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no, but neither does the tobacco or the alcohol industry or pretty much any other business in capitalism work for altruism. He was going to sell product X to people who were willing to pay money Y. It was a consensual transaction between adults. Its appalling that people can be sent to shooting squads because of that.
 
Yet you can rape people, abuse kids and bomb places and get less time in jail (and not death) that moving some drugs. Weird as hell in my opinion and doesn't achieve shit in stopping or even slowing drugs into or around the country.

The huge shipments will still come in in shipping containers (with bribes no doubt to make sure its not pulled up or found) and via planes with corrupt baggage handlers and whatever, so killing a bunch of people with some drugs doesn't really do anything does it. It might make a whole heap of end users think twice but the mules will still do it for the money and take the risk.
 
It's not like he didn't know the risks, otherwise why hide it in his hang glider?

If it was for personal use, I could see your argument. He was smuggling into a known high risk zone. He could have chosen any other number of countries to try and smuggle into that didn't carry the same punishment, but he chose Indonesia because of the high profits.
 
I wonder if it was bound for NZ or Aus after Indo if it wasnt caught... Who knows I guess.
 
I don't care whether he "knew the risks" or not, killing someone for having drugs on them is completely unacceptable. What a backward-ass country. They should be sanctioned.
 
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Why do you think they choose to import into Indonesia? I can tell you it isn't because they can make a larger profit, because prices are still a fraction of what could be gain in say Singapore or Sydney. It's because it is easy, the customs while not exactly third world lax, has no where the resources of Australia or the EU.

In short they target a country which doesn't have the budget to easily protect its citizens with fancy ion sensors or extensive x Ray sytems. Those poor drug traffickers know the chances of getting caught is significantly less so they take advantage of this. The most effective way to deter drug trafficking when you don't have the funds is to punish offenders as harshly as they can. Does it work? Obviously not 100%, but it is effective enough for the majority of people here to consider it crazy to attempt to enter these countries with any drugs on them. Personally I get that sick feeling entering Singapore or Malaysia every time, even though I know I have nothing illegal in my bags. I'm guessing it makes it easier to profile the really nervous ones too.

While I can't say I'd be happy to face the death squad for a couple of spliffs, reality is those that do are usually proper drug traffickers, opportunists looking for an easy profit. Indonesia in particular is a hugely populated multicultural mix of religions and ideologies. I hold no grudges against their government for policing drugs the way they do.
 
One Thousand Words said:
Why do you think they choose to import into Indonesia? I can tell you it isn't because they can make a larger profit, because prices are still a fraction of what could be gain in say Singapore or Sydney. It's because it is easy, the customs while not exactly third world lax, has no where the resources of Australia or the EU.

In short they target a country which doesn't have the budget to easily protect its citizens with fancy ion sensors or extensive x Ray sytems. Those poor drug traffickers know the chances of getting caught is significantly less so they take advantage of this. The most effective way to deter drug trafficking when you don't have the funds is to punish offenders as harshly as they can. Does it work? Obviously not 100%, but it is effective enough for the majority of people here to consider it crazy to attempt to enter these countries with any drugs on them. Personally I get that sick feeling entering Singapore or Malaysia every time, even though I know I have nothing illegal in my bags. I'm guessing it makes it easier to profile the really nervous ones too.

While I can't say I'd be happy to face the death squad for a couple of spliffs, reality is those that do are usually proper drug traffickers, opportunists looking for an easy profit. Indonesia in particular is a hugely populated multicultural mix of religions and ideologies. I hold no grudges against their government for policing drugs the way they do.
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This poor guy was a mule. I bet they promised him 5 grand and a vacation. You think a kingpin is going to do something that risky? Hell no! Poor people do desperate things money.
 
Define poor. I'm guessing he made more than what an average Indonesian local makes in a lifetime for this one run. More than enough than the average Brazillian from a favela
 
In what way?

My brother has lived in Indonesia for almost 10 years so I like to think I have some what of an idea of how the country ticks, admittedly from a foreigner's perspective.

The place is populous. 250 million. And poor. Average annual salary is less than $US20 000, but that is swayed by a far greater wealth divide than you could imagine. It is also multifaceted. It gets a rap for being the largest Muslim population in the world but reality is it has large populations of all Religions, that for the most part are happy to coexist. But strict Islamic teachings do under pin the country. It is not unreasonable to expect them to frown on a lot of Western excesses, drugs use bei8ng one of them.

When you have a large, poor population, drugs is a very unhealthy escape to allow to fester. I can totally understand why they have the harsh laws they do given the economic constraints that exist. Their health system can't cope with the problems they already have, let alone throwing junkies on top. It is harsh, yes, but the locals are happy with these laws. 79% of the population agree with the death penalty for drug traffickers. It's only greedy foreigners who wish to take advantage of the country by importing illegal products to feed mostly tourists, that choose to ignore these laws. I'm sorry but you and I know the risks, and I personally would cop it on the chin (or in the chest, depending on the accuracy of the firing squad) if I did try my luck and happened to get caught.

When compared to a regime such as Saudi Arabia, Indonesia is actually quite moderate.
 
Although things may seem absolutely clear to some, there are conflicting feelings and thoughts about this.
Nothing is never that easy to judge..
I can only say this is deeply sad though. It was wrong, punished according to the laws. But I regret every execution, specifically those done because of that reason.
It is regretful and painful to see how things get that far...
 
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When you have a large, poor population, drugs is a very unhealthy escape to allow to fester. I can totally understand why they have the harsh laws they do given the economic constraints that exist. Their health system can't cope with the problems they already have, let alone throwing junkies on top. (blah blah blah)

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Oh bullshit. These draconian laws are all about controlling and suppressing the population and have little or nothing to do with the health system. Drugs encourage free thought = exercise damage control. The fact that the majority of the population in these backward countries feel more strongly about drug users/smugglers than they do about rapists and murderers simply goes to show how successful the brainwashing is and how warped their ideologies are.

You want a populous 'poor' country example that doesn't need these laws? How about India? Are you saying that country has gone to pot under the weight of its junkies? Furthermore, China's health system is struggling... from the state-sanctioned and supplied drug; tobacco. How does that hypocrisy fit in?

(1KW your location of "☼ .←" always makes me wonder if its code for "the sun shines out of my ass". No offense intended.)
 
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