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I'm growing so very tired of debating politics, I'm exhausted. People on the street, co-workers, family members, people on here. They all have the same arguments and I'm tired of being a broken record. It makes me want to just drop out of the political loop and watch the world burn while I watch Simpsons reruns online.
 
Bardeaux said:
I'm growing so very tired of debating politics, I'm exhausted. People on the street, co-workers, family members, people on here. They all have the same arguments and I'm tired of being a broken record. It makes me want to just drop out of the political loop and watch the world burn while I watch Simpsons reruns online.
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You forgot about drinking evernog.
 
So Moyers is finally out of here :\

Moyers & Company host Bill Moyers delivered a message of encouragement for young progressives in the face of seemingly harrowing odds, drawing the curtain on his 44-year broadcast career on Friday.

“To this new generation I say: over to you. Welcome to the fight,” Moyers said at the conclusion of his final show. “And to all of you who have been loyal to these broadcasts, and to my colleagues who produced them and our funders who kept on giving despite my foibles and flaws, I say: thank you.”
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ArCi said:
I actually think it's funny dish dropped them, because everyone knows Fox News is trash

Just find it weird they still keep cnn, msnbc, etc.

Also they're losing customers because of dropping fox news
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Nothing to do with politics, just their negotiations Fox likely wanted an a very high figure for Dish to carry them. Dish has previously dropped MTV and several other channels when negotiations failed, but often after backlash they give in, pay, and then carry the channel again.
 
is it just me or are the end goals of both extreme left and extreme right the same thing structurally but are only assuming different philosophical stances on the human condition?

extreme left: state-less anarchy where everyone looks after their neighbour
extreme right: state-less libertarianism where everyone can exploit as much as they are able to

both are state-less positions but what people will do with freedom is the question.

what am i missing?
 
L2R said:
is it just me or are the end goals of both extreme left and extreme right the same thing structurally but are only assuming different philosophical stances on the human condition?

extreme left: state-less anarchy where everyone looks after their neighbour
extreme right: state-less libertarianism where everyone can exploit as much as they are able to

both are state-less positions but what people will do with freedom is the question.

what am i missing?
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You might want to check out a few countries in Africa that haven't had a proper government in years if your looking for anarchy.

Even the most right-wing libertarians still see a need for a state, just with far less power than the federal government currently has and many government services outsourced so they can be run more effectively than being bogged down by bureaucracy. It's hardly about exploitation, libertarian ideology has an emphasis on private charity, as it's about choice rather than the government putting a proverbial gun to the head of it's citizens and demanding exorbitant tax rates which largely go to funding out of control pensions, bureaucrats inflated salaries, and little of which goes to help others.
 
L2R said:
is it just me or are the end goals of both extreme left and extreme right the same thing structurally but are only assuming different philosophical stances on the human condition?

extreme left: state-less anarchy where everyone looks after their neighbour
extreme right: state-less libertarianism where everyone can exploit as much as they are able to

both are state-less positions but what people will do with freedom is the question.


what am i missing?
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You're missing fascism (and totalitarianism in general), which would be specifically counterpoised to your examples of extreme leftism and rightism (you essentially chose the libertarian wings of the radical left and right). If we expand politics to 2 dimensions rather than a single spectrum, those extremes never meet. But really, no matter how many dimensions you employ in your model, it's still an abstraction from a wide variety of qualitatively distinct theoretical frameworks and specific policy stances.

Mr. White said:
Even the most right-wing libertarians still see a need for a state
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The 'anarcho'-capitalists do not.

ebola
 
ah yes i did forget an entire axis in this spectrum didn't i. nice pick up, ebola.
 
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