TheGrasshopper
Bluelighter
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Background: 2-3 months prior, kicked a roughly 100-150mg oxycontin habit (it was heroin but its easyer to gauge my daily input via oxy mgs since i have much experiance with that in a prior addiction). I would assume my opiate tolerance is back close to baseline at this point. No pot for at least a week, and no alcohol for a few days (2? something like that, moderate 2-4 day a week drinker if not taking opiates)
Sober at the start of this. 100%.
Started out about 1 hour prior to opiate dose with a large bowl of vegatable / chicken soup (fatty) with roughly 3 tablespoons of freshly ground black peppercorn mixed in. Delicious.
About 30 minutes later followed up with 1000mg of turmeric via 2 gelatin capsules and then one 500mg gel cap of cayenne pepper supplement aproximatlly 10 minutes after the turmeric.
Another 10 minutes later 4 over the counter 2mg generic AD tablets where taken.
Chemicals are as follow in time order (as mentioned above, pardon my spelling)
Piperine (unknown amount, roughly 3 tablespoons fresh ground black pepper dissolved in a fatty soup)
Curcumin (1000mg)
Capsicum (500mg)
Loperamide (8mg)
Seltzer, cola and a few crackers to get it all down and keep my stomach happy.
Dose time: 0:00
+0:20 - Nothing, Slightly annoyed stomach, subdued with a few more crackers. Non-issue
+0:40 - Maybe placebo but I do not feel sober anymore. Mind is a powerful thing.
+1:00 - Not placebo. I would like to think that i can tell a true opiate high coming on. (Legs finally relaxed, Lightly mentally stimulated (more of a focused calm) but I am still skeptical as black pepper itself is a stimulant.
+1:10 - warmth in extremities, noticing a slight lag in mind just correlated to vision (example: I move my sight over to something else, i can clearly tell that my mind moves slower then in the previous hour, like being drunk without impaired motor skills or being sloppy, something i have specifically noted with an opiate buzz. Definite slowed heartbeat (I am normally hyperactive as all hell when sober and my heart now feels at a regular beat rate.
+1:30 - Mental calm seems to be increasing along with full body comfort, heart rate seems to have stabilized at a normal persons bpm. The slight tingly warmth i felt in my limbs worked its way into the rest of me and I am more comfortable then i have been since quitting opiates.
+1:45~ this is most definatly not placebo, this is an opiate high but without any significant euphoria, any that I feel i attribute to myself being happy that i finaly at least have a good portion of a decent oxy buzz going, with this body load, the euphoria on oxy or heroin would be clearly forced on by an outer substance.
My main purpose for this post is, mucking around in uncharted water and knowing full well what the potency of Loperamide is if it where to fully cross the bbb. There is a slight chance that i could get hit with 8mg of fentinyl strength painkillers with no opiate tolerance. So if you don't hear back from me in the following 24 hours, you'll know exactly what NOT TO DO. On that note, I don't think this will be the case as I hoped a low 8mg dosage would not be enough to kill, or at least i hoped they would have some serious supplement and medical interaction warning plastered bright and big on the box if that where the case.
Well see what happens, I plan on staying awake for at least 2-3 hours just to make sure the high is not still increasing when I am ready to sleep.
FOR SCIENCE!
and a cheap high..
Cheers! :D
Sober at the start of this. 100%.
Started out about 1 hour prior to opiate dose with a large bowl of vegatable / chicken soup (fatty) with roughly 3 tablespoons of freshly ground black peppercorn mixed in. Delicious.
About 30 minutes later followed up with 1000mg of turmeric via 2 gelatin capsules and then one 500mg gel cap of cayenne pepper supplement aproximatlly 10 minutes after the turmeric.
Another 10 minutes later 4 over the counter 2mg generic AD tablets where taken.
Chemicals are as follow in time order (as mentioned above, pardon my spelling)
Piperine (unknown amount, roughly 3 tablespoons fresh ground black pepper dissolved in a fatty soup)
Curcumin (1000mg)
Capsicum (500mg)
Loperamide (8mg)
Seltzer, cola and a few crackers to get it all down and keep my stomach happy.
Dose time: 0:00
+0:20 - Nothing, Slightly annoyed stomach, subdued with a few more crackers. Non-issue
+0:40 - Maybe placebo but I do not feel sober anymore. Mind is a powerful thing.
+1:00 - Not placebo. I would like to think that i can tell a true opiate high coming on. (Legs finally relaxed, Lightly mentally stimulated (more of a focused calm) but I am still skeptical as black pepper itself is a stimulant.
+1:10 - warmth in extremities, noticing a slight lag in mind just correlated to vision (example: I move my sight over to something else, i can clearly tell that my mind moves slower then in the previous hour, like being drunk without impaired motor skills or being sloppy, something i have specifically noted with an opiate buzz. Definite slowed heartbeat (I am normally hyperactive as all hell when sober and my heart now feels at a regular beat rate.
+1:30 - Mental calm seems to be increasing along with full body comfort, heart rate seems to have stabilized at a normal persons bpm. The slight tingly warmth i felt in my limbs worked its way into the rest of me and I am more comfortable then i have been since quitting opiates.
+1:45~ this is most definatly not placebo, this is an opiate high but without any significant euphoria, any that I feel i attribute to myself being happy that i finaly at least have a good portion of a decent oxy buzz going, with this body load, the euphoria on oxy or heroin would be clearly forced on by an outer substance.
My main purpose for this post is, mucking around in uncharted water and knowing full well what the potency of Loperamide is if it where to fully cross the bbb. There is a slight chance that i could get hit with 8mg of fentinyl strength painkillers with no opiate tolerance. So if you don't hear back from me in the following 24 hours, you'll know exactly what NOT TO DO. On that note, I don't think this will be the case as I hoped a low 8mg dosage would not be enough to kill, or at least i hoped they would have some serious supplement and medical interaction warning plastered bright and big on the box if that where the case.
Well see what happens, I plan on staying awake for at least 2-3 hours just to make sure the high is not still increasing when I am ready to sleep.
FOR SCIENCE!
and a cheap high..
Cheers! :D