the 2014/2015 nfl thread v. R U RDY 4 SUM FOOTBAW?

[pharmakos]

In this instance I would not be blaming the call, rather the rule.

this.

i wouldn't compare it to the bad call against the lions last week -- last week the cowboys broke the rules and got away with it. this week it is the rules getting the cowboys, last week it was the refs getting the lions. subtle but important difference.

 

[One Thousand Words]

I would have thought he had control of the catch, planted two feet then fell to the ground trying to cross the goal line. If he had crossed the side line it would have been a completion. Toss of the coin I know but that pretty much decided the game

 

[pharmakos]

and if he would have held onto the ball as he hit the ground it would have been a completion. you can't let the ball slip out of your hands as you come down and expect it to count as a completion. gotta have control through the ENTIRE process.

 

[One Thousand Words]

I see it that he caught it clean, took three paces and lost control diving for the goal line. Potatoe- tomatoe. The cowboys are horrible any way, they should have put Rogers on half a leg to the sword but didn't.

 

[Kittycat5]

Rex Ryan is going to crush it in Buffalo. He almost beat the Patriots twice this season with one of the worst rosters in the league. Rumor is they're also hiring 49ers OC Greg Roman. Probably also means 49ers Pro Bowl Guard is a target.

Love the moves.

With that defense, Rex is gonna be drooling. Still worried at the QB situation and God knows Rex doesnt need that headache again.

 

[GenericMind]

Yeah Rex is a good coach. The blame for the Jets sucking the past 2 seasons lies on the GM, from the way I hear Jets fans tell it. All he needs is a good offensive coordinator to run the offense for him and an average QB and this team is in the playoffs for sure. I mean fuck they went 9-7 with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton.

 

[pharmakos]

and lost control diving for the goal line.

and there ya go

the refs may have even let it slide if it wasn't in such a pivotal situation -- trying for a 4th down conversion and almost had a field goal. but to be sloppy when the game is on the line like that...

 

[alasdairm]

Rex Ryan is going to crush it in Buffalo. He almost beat the Patriots twice this season with one of the worst rosters in the league. Rumor is they're also hiring 49ers OC Greg Roman. Probably also means 49ers Pro Bowl Guard is a target.

Love the moves.

almost beat = lost.

you sound like dwe.

Cheatin ass Patriots at it again.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000456365/article/john-harbaugh-pats-substitutions-deceptive-illegal

which rule was broken, gm?

alasdair

 

[One Thousand Words]

It was 0-0 shortly after kick off

 

[treezy z]

Time for peyton to retire.

 

[GenericMind]

almost beat = lost.

you sound like dwe.

Don't be obtuse just because I'm talking about your team. Obviously I meant that Ryan plays the Patriots hard and that if he can almost win against them with as bad a roster as the Jets had this season, he'll have an even better chance of beating them with a more talented roster like the Bills have. That's actually one of the main reasons I liked Rex as a candidate. If the Bills can start beating the Patriots then the rest will work itself out.

which rule was broken, gm?

None at all, technically. I just wanted to point out that the Patriots were going to lose that game and Bellichick had to reach as deep as his magic hat goes to pull out some obscure crap that bends the rules in a way nobody has thought of to win. Because of that game there will be official rules put in place at the end of the year. I guarantee it. And if the Bills coach did something like that I'd love it. But it also shows the Pats aren't good enough to win the Superbowl if they need to get that grimy to win against the Ravens. That was their one "get out of jail free" card and they used it before they even got to the AFC Championship game. Indy will be ready for it now.

As I've said for years, the Patriots will never win another Superbowl during their current dynasty after they got caught cheating and fined by the league. They're heading to the AFC Championship game and I still feel as confident as ever in that statement. Patriots are has-beens and they don't even know it yet.

 

[alasdairm]

so no rule was broken and, if the bills did it, they'd be smart, resourceful and tricky but, because it's the pats it's grimy and cheating? you just sound like a bitter crank when you get like this, gm.

baltimore looked good. man, they were pressuring brady all day and still he managed to torch them for 408 yards in the air. and the edelman pass to amendola? i suppose that's cheating too because brady didn't throw it? /inserts dawsoncrying.jpg

pats were down 14 points and fought back. then they went down 14 points again and fought back. then they won the game. winners find ways to win. do you hear me whining about the gronk pi no call? the revis holding call on smith sr.? no.

i know it's the playoffs and everything is on the table but new england play indianapolis earlier this year and handled them nicely - 42-20 on the road. in that game, gray ran for 200 yards and 4 tds. they can get it done on the ground, they can get it done in the air. 503 total yards of offense...

i know it's not going to last forever, gm. all teams ebb and flow. when the pats start to slowdown, i'll have seen them win 12 of the last 15 afc east titles, including the last 6 in a row and 3 superbowls. not bad.

make a prediction. you think the bills are the rising stars and the nexy dynasty? when will they win their next afc east title? superbowl? fast forward 15 years from then - will they win 3 superbowls and 11 more division titles in that time?

don't forget you'll be playing against the hapless jets and the shitty new england patriots so you'll have to endure all the "you play in a weak division" taunts

alasdair

 

[GenericMind]

Of course I'm a bitter crank lol. My team has been stuck in the Patriots division during the longest and most dominant dynaysty the NFL has ever seen!

 

[alasdairm]

you know i love to argue with you because you love your team from a real place and you know your shit.

i'm not fronting, the afc east will have its hands full when rex ryan gets the bills rolling. but the patriots aren't dead yet and they've showed that they can mix it up in the air, on the ground, in defense and special teams and find a way to win.

three more games to look forward to and they should all be great - well, the conference games anyway - and that's something fans of football can be happy about.

alasdair

 

[GenericMind]

Unfortunately I know that the Patriots aren't done yet. I just like to pretend they are. Until Brady starts showing signs of decline(see: Manning) they're going to remain a winning team and probably the divisional champs unless the Bills or Dolphins somehow land a star QB.

Almost every modern day star QB started to decline in their mid-to-late 30s. I actually read an article once that listed the drop-offs and pretty much all the greats follow that formula. And here's Tom Brady playing great at 37. You'd have to think that within the next 2 years he has to start declining at least somewhat. And then he'll probably still be good for another year or two, just not great. So I don't expect the Patriots to have any trouble winning for the next 3-4 years. Only THEN will the division be up for grabs.

 

[One Thousand Words]

A better question will be when will Giselle dump Brady?

 

[subotai]

the bills are probably going to sign and start Mark Sanchez bro, im just throwimg that out there now

what happened to Bryce Brown, I was pumped to see him go to buffalo and he barely touched the field. Im still a Bryce Brown fan, I dont dump players just because they leave the Birds

idk what to think about the Eagles. they need a cornerback and another safety and their defense could be good

thats all that I know for sure atm

 

[treezy z]

Genericmind, the bills are going to have to sign a qb that's better than jimmy g, who i see massive potential with, he could end up being a top 10 qb or better. And your bills are fools, as evidenced by the rex ryan signing.

 

[GenericMind]

Bryce Brown is still on the roster. Marrone just didn't use him enough. That will change next year since Rex is known for ground-and-pound offenses. I don't think they'll sign Mark Sanchez. They may try trading for Cutler.

Genericmind, the bills are going to have to sign a qb that's better than jimmy g, who i see massive potential with, he could end up being a top 10 qb or better. And your bills are fools, as evidenced by the rex ryan signing.

Yeah they're total fools. Rex Ryan has never done anything as a coach worth noting.

Between 2005 and 2012, Rex Ryan's defenses never ranked lower than 6th overall. Eight straight years, 6th or better.
In 10 seasons, Rex's defenses have never ranked worse than 11th in total yards allowed.
In 6 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses have been 5th or better in yards allowed, including two 1st place finishes.
In 5 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses have been 10th or better in total points allowed. They were 1st twice and 3rd once.

In 8 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 9th or better in rushing yards allowed. They were 3rd or better 5 times.
In 9 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 8th or better in average yards per rush allowed. They were 1st twice.
In 8 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 11th or better in rushing TDs allowed They were 1st twice and 3rd once.

All of that seems pretty impressive, but "What about pass defense?", you say.

In 7 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 8th or better in passing yards allowed. They were 1st once and 2nd twice.
In 7 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 9th or better in avg yards/pass allowed. They ranked 1st and 2nd once each.
In 6 out of 10 seasons, Rex's defenses were ranked 10th or better in passing TDs allowed. They were 1st and 2nd once each.

Also, lol @ Jimmy Crapopolo being a top 10 QB.

 

[GenericMind]

This defensive roster with the return of Kiko Alonso and Rex Ryan now coaching has the potential to be the type of shutdown defense that got the Seahawks to the Superbowl last year with an average QB and so-so offense.