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Meth and Heroin mixed

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dr katz

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So i have never done meth and heroin in the same night before until tonight. Also I had half a xannax. let me retrace my steps for you:

I snorted only half of a Xannax 1 mg around 5:00-6:00,
then I smoked like 2 decent sized hits of white at i'm guessing around 8:00,
then I smoked about 3 smaller sized hits of H at around 8:30-9:00,
I smoked like 2 more decent sized hits of white a little after that and then like 2 more hits an hour or so after that,
then I smoke one more little hit of H and then did a bump of white right after and I have one more bump that i'm going to do in an hour or more.

(sorry for the shitty timeline, I am on meth after all, lol)

I don't think it's dangerous to do meth and h in one small amount of time (except the fact that I mixed a benzo and H, but it was only half of a 1 mg) and I didn't smoke very much H tonight anyway, but is there anything I should be worried about or in better words, am I in the clear? I mean shit, i know people who have shot up meth and H together or in the same night and that seems way more intense so I figured i'm alright, but I just want to be sure so I made this post. Also, I want to take one of the xannax 1 mg on the comedown but would that be a stupid decision because I smoked some H?
 
I've done speedballs with meth and h in the same shot on multiple occasions. With this you really just have to gauge how you feel. I would say if you haven't done any h in the hour or two before you take the Xanax you'll be fine, especially at 1mg. But again, if you feel overly sedated (which I highly doubt you will) or anything, better stay on the safe side.
 
wezface said:
I've done speedballs with meth and h in the same shot on multiple occasions. With this you really just have to gauge how you feel. I would say if you haven't done any h in the hour or two before you take the Xanax you'll be fine, especially at 1mg. But again, if you feel overly sedated (which I highly doubt you will) or anything, better stay on the safe side.
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Thanks for the advice(: just did the last bump and going to clean up the kitchen (cleaning up because apartment management is coming through to put a filter in stove fan and etc) then will probably take the football to chill out. Haven't smoked any H for over 2 hours so I should definitely feel fine (:
 
It's much much harder on the body to combine uppers and downers than to do both separately. Yeah it feels amazing but it is a cardiac nightmare. Plus being hooked on meth and heroin sounds way harder to deal with than either or separately. Be safe, and try not to relive that speedball often
 
DynoSpec said:
It's much much harder on the body to combine uppers and downers than to do both separately. Yeah it feels amazing but it is a cardiac nightmare. Plus being hooked on meth and heroin sounds way harder to deal with than either or separately. Be safe, and try not to relive that speedball often
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I think your comment was directed at wez but I just wanted to throw in that that my heart was my main concern
 
DynoSpec said:
It's much much harder on the body to combine uppers and downers than to do both separately. Yeah it feels amazing but it is a cardiac nightmare. Plus being hooked on meth and heroin sounds way harder to deal with than either or separately. Be safe, and try not to relive that speedball often
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Actually from what i understand, the combination of uppers and downers is directly safer on the heart and body, considering it balances the cardiovascular system. That's why benzos are administered for stimulant overdoses in a medical setting.

The dangers come when the user take too much of either one substance without realizing it, and the other one wears off thus revealing the true power of the first substance which can often be stronger than the user had intended and sometimes lead to an overdose.
 
I think benzos/ghb are much safer to mix with meth, and can lessen negative cardiovascular effect. But I've been led to believe opiates add more stress than they alleviate especially compared to gabaergic drugs. I don't have anything to back this up and im Half spun right now so I could be wrong. haha,
what I should have said is the Meth+heroin is a possibly higher risk speedball since they are both powerful and potent, but meth lasts alot longer. Ime down and ice together turns into hitting one after the other trying to level it back out.
 
DynoSpec said:
I think benzos/ghb are much safer to mix with meth, and can lessen negative cardiovascular effect. But I've been led to believe opiates add more stress than they alleviate especially compared to gabaergic drugs. I don't have anything to back this up and im Half spun right now so I could be wrong. haha,
what I should have said is the Meth+heroin is a possibly higher risk speedball since they are both powerful and potent, but meth lasts alot longer. Ime down and ice together turns into hitting one after the other trying to level it back out.
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I'm not sure about ghb but benzos(except Ativan...) and meth work well together, as long as you don't take a ridiculous amount of benzos. I don't like benzos much.. I use to play around with ativan but your tolerance builds REAL QUICK on them so I went from half a 1 mg to taking 3-4 2 mgs a month later and when I had actual anxiety and took them for that itddidn't help, it made it worse. Id cry for like no reason while on it and have worse anxiety the next day. That's big pharma for ya. Anyway, xannax just makes me crash out so if I have a line or a few hits of meth it wakes me up but there isn't much anxiety. Obviously if you keep doing meth that night it over rides that benzo real quick. As for coming down... I can honestly say thatI pprobably won't do meth anymore without xannax to take on the comedown. It works wonders. It's really the quickest way to calm down and pass out after doing white.
 
DynoSpec said:
I think benzos/ghb are much safer to mix with meth, and can lessen negative cardiovascular effect. But I've been led to believe opiates add more stress than they alleviate especially compared to gabaergic drugs. I don't have anything to back this up and im Half spun right now so I could be wrong. haha,
what I should have said is the Meth+heroin is a possibly higher risk speedball since they are both powerful and potent, but meth lasts alot longer. Ime down and ice together turns into hitting one after the other trying to level it back out.
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The logic is off though. Regardless of how potent, meth plus heroin is pretty safe since they have similar durations. Unlike cocaine and heroin, where the coke wears off quick the the heroin gets way stronger. That is very unsafe. But the actual combination of stimulants with depressants in itself is very safe. Probably even more safe than taking one or the other, if timed properly.

Throwing a downer into a stimulant high is beneficial, as your heart rate will slow down, thus beating at a more normal rate. It's doesn't make your heart beat fast at slow at once, thats impossible. Also, it wont beat irregularly as if it's trying to beat fast one moment and slow the next, it just balances out.
 
Crashing said:
The logic is off though. Regardless of how potent, meth plus heroin is pretty safe since they have similar durations. Unlike cocaine and heroin, where the coke wears off quick the the heroin gets way stronger. That is very unsafe. But the actual combination of stimulants with depressants in itself is very safe. Probably even more safe than taking one or the other, if timed properly.

Throwing a downer into a stimulant high is beneficial, as your heart rate will slow down, thus beating at a more normal rate. It's doesn't make your heart beat fast at slow at once, thats impossible. Also, it wont beat irregularly as if it's trying to beat fast one moment and slow the next, it just balances out.
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Damn andjust the other day I was like "coke and H could be fun together". Obviously I would not try that combo without researching about it but now I know
 
dr katz said:
Damn andjust the other day I was like "coke and H could be fun together". Obviously I would not try that combo without researching about it but now I know
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oh my my. a speedball was my favorite back in the day (IV coke & H). 100%. crack pipe & IV H was very fine too.
 
euc1000 said:
oh my my. a speedball was my favorite back in the day (IV coke & H). 100%. crack pipe & IV H was very fine too.
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It sounds awesome. Also I was pondering the other day and was like "hmmm I wonder what ketamine and black feel like together" (like a few hits of H then a bump of K). That would either be amazing or horrible
 
Mixing dissociatives with opiates generally just leads to blackout and passing out. Also, you can mix coke with H, you just have to make sure that you don't take more H than you normally would if you werent using coke.
 
I'm very reluctant to find out though. My body isn't very strong and can't handle too much. (I'm 100 lbs and I'm pretty malnourished)
 
Crashing said:
Mixing dissociatives with opiates generally just leads to blackout and passing out. Also, you can mix coke with H, you just have to make sure that you don't take more H than you normally would if you werent using coke.
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I don't think my body would be ready for that. It's lame, It's like the more drugs I try and the more often I do them the less I can handle them. I mean it makes sense obviously.. I'm weaker now than I was a year ago.. but come on
 
I have always found meth + H together at once (as in, mixed into one shot - the legendary Goofball, a la Los Angeles and Orange Counties) to be
absolutely
the
most
epic,
overwhelming,
divine
fucking
lightning
of an experience.
The rush...
... is love
and passion
and sex
and shock
and awe
and glory
and focus
and radiation of your energy,
all rolled into one very intense session. One super gnar gnar sesh.
In fact - I loved [goofballs] so much, that eventually I began to get petulant and super annoyed when, hey - I easily got my Heroin for the day - but - I could not find any crystal. Imagine that. Heroin, of all things, was boring - it bored me, when on its own. My god.

Anyways, obv I experimented: it was a lot of trial and error, with the respective amounts of each that I would add to a given shot, being tweaked, here and there (pun intended).
In the end, I concluded that the best possible mix ratio, was about 1.5:1. That's specifically 1.5 parts meth, 1 part Heroin. If and when I ever reversed the ratio, with more H than crystal, I found weird things happening as a result. In my body. If I did H-heavy Goofballs too often, my hands and feet would swell up, and I would generally feel insane, and physically unwell. Also - heart palpitations would occur randomly and rarely - yet very much noticed by me.

My theory is that too much Heroin acts to suppress your heart rate: to keep it low..slow..while the slight lesser meth is flooding your system with norepinephrine, dopamine, serotonin, and my long lost love, Adrenaline. Which is acting to raise your heart rate and CNS. So that conflict does some wacky, uncomfortable shit. The very same hand and foot swelling can be found in people with heart disease. Go figure. Meth really takes it out of you. But goddamn does it feel so amazing.

The bright side of this (for me) was that with the addition of 1.5 parts crystal, I could make my average gram of H last waaay longer. Basically because I refused to slam any more than 2pts of meth at once, which always limited me to a little over 1pt of H, in any given shot. WHen it was H alone, I could easily slam 3pts at once, and not nod out. Strangely.

H withdrawal is also far milder and more tolerable when I also happen to be kicking a good-sized crystal habit. Again - seems like one cancels out something in the other.

I have no concept of whether or not I seem to be rambling, so I'm going to be safe and stop now. As it happens, I slammed 2 goofballs back to back about an hour ago, so at the moment I would love to tell you all everything about everything there is to know. But I'll stop. Now. Stopping.
 
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